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ND leader turns down invitation from Fyrom PM

There are 48 comments on the EKathimerini story from Dec 26, 2011, titled ND leader turns down invitation from Fyrom PM. In it, EKathimerini reports that:

New Democracy leader Antonis Samaras on Saturday rejected an invitation by the prime minister of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Nikola Gruevski, for a meeting to discuss the ongoing name dispute between the two Balkan neighbors, saying in a letter released to the media, A'I do not believe such a meeting would presently be ... (more)

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MAKEDONIKOS

Athens, Greece

#1 Dec 26, 2011
FYROMASITE SFE LAZE KAI MALETSKI DETSA PRAVE
I SFE KRADE
The Ovchar

Holland Landing, Canada

#2 Dec 26, 2011
Chichen!!!!

Bok Bok Bok Bok!!!!

EDEN DEN E SEGA
The Ovchar is watching...his flock...so flock off Gerk.
MAKEDONIKOS wrote:
FYROMASITE SFE LAZE KAI MALETSKI DETSA PRAVE
I SFE KRADE
peace and love

Norristown, PA

#3 Dec 26, 2011
No wait, this Samaras guy is on to something. Ignore us, ignore the bills, ignore the world. Pretty heavy stuff here.
Macedonia needs to focus on efficiency, public relations, and it's own people. He will ignore us but keep a close eye on our progress. When the time is right he will come around.
CANADEZOS

London, Canada

#4 Dec 26, 2011
The Ovchar wrote:
Chichen!!!!
Bok Bok Bok Bok!!!!
EDEN DEN E SEGA
The Ovchar is watching...his flock...so flock off Gerk.
<quoted text>
THE MALAKISMENO OVCHAR!AS USUSAL IS JERKING OFF!SLAVOSKOPIAN MALAKIES!
CANADEZOS

London, Canada

#5 Dec 26, 2011
peace and love wrote:
No wait, this Samaras guy is on to something. Ignore us, ignore the bills, ignore the world. Pretty heavy stuff here.
Macedonia needs to focus on efficiency, public relations, and it's own people. He will ignore us but keep a close eye on our progress. When the time is right he will come around.
YOU HAD A CHANCE WITH PAPAJEFREY TO SOLVE THE NAME ISSUE!BUT YOU COMPLETELY IGNORED THE OPPORTUNITY!THIS SAMARA GUY WILL FAKC YOU INSIDE OUT!
peace and love

Norristown, PA

#6 Dec 26, 2011
It's hard to take you seriously with your sticky keyboard post. I'm not going to lie and say I don't see some good qualities in this Samaras character. I hope that the Greek people can match their new voice. Not even speaking about the negotiations with us.
They always start out strong, with big promises. Only time will tell where this will go.
We will always find a weakness in his armor. I see his stiff stance as a weakness. We are not looking to exploit his stance but I'm sure somebody is.
Leaders need to be fluid and adaptive in times of change as we have now.
CANADEZOS wrote:
<quoted text>YOU HAD A CHANCE WITH PAPAJEFREY TO SOLVE THE NAME ISSUE!BUT YOU COMPLETELY IGNORED THE OPPORTUNITY!THIS SAMARA GUY WILL FAKC YOU INSIDE OUT!
CANADEZOS

London, Canada

#7 Dec 26, 2011
peace and love wrote:
It's hard to take you seriously with your sticky keyboard post. I'm not going to lie and say I don't see some good qualities in this Samaras character. I hope that the Greek people can match their new voice. Not even speaking about the negotiations with us.
They always start out strong, with big promises. Only time will tell where this will go.
We will always find a weakness in his armor. I see his stiff stance as a weakness. We are not looking to exploit his stance but I'm sure somebody is.
Leaders need to be fluid and adaptive in times of change as we have now. <quoted text>
YUGOSLAV NEVER MIND THE KBD IT'S DOING IT'S JOB!IT'S THE PEOPLE OF GREECE NOT HIM!WHO ARE CALLING THE SHOTS!THE MACEDONIAN ISSUE IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT!FOR THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND ITS IMPORTANCE!THAN THE CURRENT FINANCIAL CRISIS IN GREECE!ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WILL CHANGE YOUR NAME!MACEDONIA IS NOT JUST GREEK==>>MACEDONIA IS GREECE!!
peace and love

Norristown, PA

#8 Dec 26, 2011
Than name your whole country Macedonia.
CANADEZOS wrote:
<quoted text>YUGOSLAV NEVER MIND THE KBD IT'S DOING IT'S JOB!IT'S THE PEOPLE OF GREECE NOT HIM!WHO ARE CALLING THE SHOTS!THE MACEDONIAN ISSUE IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT!FOR THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND ITS IMPORTANCE!THAN THE CURRENT FINANCIAL CRISIS IN GREECE!ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WILL CHANGE YOUR NAME!MACEDONIA IS NOT JUST GREEK==>>MACEDONIA IS GREECE!!
Skop Detector

Ashfield, Australia

#9 Dec 26, 2011
peace and love wrote:
Than name your whole country Macedonia.<quoted text>


We'll stick to Greece, because Sparta, Corinth, Thessaly, Athens might get jealous. Macedonia is part of our family. As ATG admitted himself:

Holy shadows of the dead, Iím not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought sister nations and brother people, to fight one another. I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad, brothers, if I had all of you standing here next to me, since we are united by the same language, the same blood and the same visions.

Alexander the Great addressing the dead Hellenes (the Athenean and Thebean Greeks) of the Battle of Chaeronea, as quoted in Historiae Alexandri Magni by Quintus Curtius Rufus.

“F.K.A...kolonosk opje”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#10 Dec 26, 2011
peace and love wrote:
Than name your whole country Macedonia.<quoted text>
If we wanted to we could.. but that is stupid because not all greeks are Macedonians..like not all greeks are Spartans,Cretans, Athenians ect...The question is why is it any of your damn business..you the EX COMMIE BULGARS to tell us how we should name our country? As a self proclaimed slav..how stupid can one be to call himself Macedonian and ignore the fact that these ancient Macedonians spoke and spread the greek language and culture? Is this what you take pride in? You hate our language.. you hate us.. Why would you want to be us? oh I forgot..the mongolian history from the Asian Steppes sucks..right?
The Ovchar

Holland Landing, Canada

#11 Dec 27, 2011
Just because ATG adopted Greece and Greeks doesnt make him a Greek. He was born Macedonian and kept his Macedonian identity close to him while he opened his mind and spirit to the world. He adopted Persia and Persians, he adopted Egypt and Egyptians etc in the same way, spreading and weaving his empire which in his eyes was the first experiment in multiculturalism...

You see, its that outward exploration and selfless thirst for knowledge which drove him...and that my freind didnt stop with the adoption of Greek culture, it included every culture he came across.

The Macedonian roots are still Macedonian and he saw the world through his Macedonian eyes which was not as ethnocentric as Greek to be sure.

Macedonians today have the same mental openness to others, that is why we are not afraid of losing our identity...it cannot be lost when even as sojourners in foreign lands we understand who and what we are and never lose sight of our roots dispite the adoption and adaptation of and to other ways of life.

Macedonians are not Greek, not Persian, not Egyptian but simply Macedonians, regardless of which robes we chose to wear on a particular day...we know where we came from and who we are.

No greek could ever take that away from us.

EDEN DEN E SEGA
The Ovchar
Skop Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
We'll stick to Greece, because Sparta, Corinth, Thessaly, Athens might get jealous. Macedonia is part of our family. As ATG admitted himself:
Holy shadows of the dead, Iím not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought sister nations and brother people, to fight one another. I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad, brothers, if I had all of you standing here next to me, since we are united by the same language, the same blood and the same visions.
Alexander the Great addressing the dead Hellenes (the Athenean and Thebean Greeks) of the Battle of Chaeronea, as quoted in Historiae Alexandri Magni by Quintus Curtius Rufus.
CANADEZOS

London, Canada

#12 Dec 27, 2011
The Ovchar wrote:
Just because ATG adopted Greece and Greeks doesnt make him a Greek. He was born Macedonian and kept his Macedonian identity close to him while he opened his mind and spirit to the world. He adopted Persia and Persians, he adopted Egypt and Egyptians etc in the same way, spreading and weaving his empire which in his eyes was the first experiment in multiculturalism...
You see, its that outward exploration and selfless thirst for knowledge which drove him...and that my freind didnt stop with the adoption of Greek culture, it included every culture he came across.
The Macedonian roots are still Macedonian and he saw the world through his Macedonian eyes which was not as ethnocentric as Greek to be sure.
Macedonians today have the same mental openness to others, that is why we are not afraid of losing our identity...it cannot be lost when even as sojourners in foreign lands we understand who and what we are and never lose sight of our roots dispite the adoption and adaptation of and to other ways of life.
Macedonians are not Greek, not Persian, not Egyptian but simply Macedonians, regardless of which robes we chose to wear on a particular day...we know where we came from and who we are.
No greek could ever take that away from us.
EDEN DEN E SEGA
The Ovchar
<quoted text>
YUGOSLAVIAN ILLITERATE BRAINWASHED MORON==>THERE ARE THOUS OF QUOTES WRITTEN BY THE ANCIENT WRITERS OVER 3000 YRS AGO!WHO HAD NO REASON TO LIE!AND THEY ALL CLEARLY STATE AND CONFIRM OF HIS HELLENIC IDENTITY!IT'S HISTORICALLY AND ARCHEOLOGICALLY PROVEN THAT ALEXANDERS ANCESTORS HAD ORIGINATED FROM THE ARGIAD DYNASTY ROYALTY!FROM THE ANCIENT CITY OF ARGOS WHICH WAS LOCATED AND STILL IS!IN CENTRAL PELOPONNESE!IF THAT'S NOT GREEK THEN WHAT IS IT?
*** ALEXANDER WAS NO FAKCEN SLAV LIKE YOU!HE WAS A HELLEN!
AND OLIVER STONE SAID BEST==>>ENJOY!!



*** YOU ARE BULGARIAN SLAVIC THIEVES!WHO DESPERATELY TRY TO FABRICATE A PSEUDOMACEDONIAN SLAVIC IDENTITY!BASED ON YUGOSLAVIAN COMMUNIST LIES&PROPAGANDA!AT THE EXPENSE OF THE HISTORICAL TRUTH!

http://history-of-macedonia.com/index.php...
mr large

Mansfield, MA

#13 Dec 27, 2011
peace and love wrote:
No wait, this Samaras guy is on to something. Ignore us, ignore the bills, ignore the world. Pretty heavy stuff here.
Macedonia needs to focus on efficiency, public relations, and it's own people. He will ignore us but keep a close eye on our progress. When the time is right he will come around.
hey numbnut ignore you why is that a big deal. its funny that turkish ass sucking fyroms think they are that important or accomplished. dress up as a reeindeer and walk around in the pa woods looooooser
peace and love

Norristown, PA

#14 Dec 27, 2011
I agree with you on this one. We have always been welcoming and adaptive of foreign cultures. I understand why ATG said what he did to the conquered people. Greek people look a lot like us, eat similar foods, and are stubborn as us. Whatever language we spoke in the BC times is not even relevant. It's like saying Canada is really the US cause they speak English and we consider them as brothers. Maybe 2000 years from now we can make that work.
The Ovchar wrote:
Just because ATG adopted Greece and Greeks doesnt make him a Greek. He was born Macedonian and kept his Macedonian identity close to him while he opened his mind and spirit to the world. He adopted Persia and Persians, he adopted Egypt and Egyptians etc in the same way, spreading and weaving his empire which in his eyes was the first experiment in multiculturalism...
You see, its that outward exploration and selfless thirst for knowledge which drove him...and that my freind didnt stop with the adoption of Greek culture, it included every culture he came across.
The Macedonian roots are still Macedonian and he saw the world through his Macedonian eyes which was not as ethnocentric as Greek to be sure.
Macedonians today have the same mental openness to others, that is why we are not afraid of losing our identity...it cannot be lost when even as sojourners in foreign lands we understand who and what we are and never lose sight of our roots dispite the adoption and adaptation of and to other ways of life.
Macedonians are not Greek, not Persian, not Egyptian but simply Macedonians, regardless of which robes we chose to wear on a particular day...we know where we came from and who we are.
No greek could ever take that away from us.
EDEN DEN E SEGA
The Ovchar
<quoted text>
Bronzilla

ChalkŪda, Greece

#15 Dec 27, 2011
peace and love wrote:
I agree with you on this one. We have always been welcoming and adaptive of foreign cultures. I understand why ATG said what he did to the conquered people. Greek people look a lot like us, eat similar foods, and are stubborn as us. Whatever language we spoke in the BC times is not even relevant. It's like saying Canada is really the US cause they speak English and we consider them as brothers. Maybe 2000 years from now we can make that work. <quoted text>
you are only slavs come here from Dnieper basin

you have no rights in the name

We Makedonians are here for ever

find a name for you asap

“MAKEDONIA IS ONLY HELLENIC”

Since: Aug 08

AND WILL ALWAYS STAY HELLENIC

#16 Dec 27, 2011
The Ovchar wrote:
Just because ATG adopted Greece and Greeks doesnt make him a Greek. He was born Macedonian and kept his Macedonian identity close to him while he opened his mind and spirit to the world. He adopted Persia and Persians, he adopted Egypt and Egyptians etc in the same way, spreading and weaving his empire which in his eyes was the first experiment in multiculturalism...
You see, its that outward exploration and selfless thirst for knowledge which drove him...and that my freind didnt stop with the adoption of Greek culture, it included every culture he came across.
The Macedonian roots are still Macedonian and he saw the world through his Macedonian eyes which was not as ethnocentric as Greek to be sure.
Macedonians today have the same mental openness to others, that is why we are not afraid of losing our identity...it cannot be lost when even as sojourners in foreign lands we understand who and what we are and never lose sight of our roots dispite the adoption and adaptation of and to other ways of life.
Macedonians are not Greek, not Persian, not Egyptian but simply Macedonians, regardless of which robes we chose to wear on a particular day...we know where we came from and who we are.
No greek could ever take that away from us.
EDEN DEN E SEGA
The Ovchar
<quoted text>
ROBIN LANE FOX on National Broadcast in England he made te following comment

"MACEDONIA is a GREEK SPEAKING KINGDOM in NORTHERN GREECE ."

"POPULATED with peple that have GREEK names GREEK months in the year and WORSHIPING GREEK GODS "

"Those who live in SKOPJE (FYROM) and say that this is Macedonia and Alexanders HOMELAND are as IGNORANT and OUTRAGEOUS as if someone is to say that OXFORD UNIVERSITY was really in Belarus and Oxford was MINSK "

here is the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch ...

Why would a PROFESSOR of a well known UNIVERSITY world wide as OXFORD is state in a polite way that

SKOPJian (FYROMians) are RIDICULUS IGNORANTS ?

SCUPI is the ancient name of SKOPJE start your education from SCUPI and you shall see why the PROFESSORS think you are IGNORANTS.

Go and get an education SCUPIS
CANADEZOS

London, Canada

#17 Dec 27, 2011
peace and love wrote:
I agree with you on this one. We have always been welcoming and adaptive of foreign cultures. I understand why ATG said what he did to the conquered people. Greek people look a lot like us, eat similar foods, and are stubborn as us. Whatever language we spoke in the BC times is not even relevant. It's like saying Canada is really the US cause they speak English and we consider them as brothers. Maybe 2000 years from now we can make that work. <quoted text>
YUGOSLAVIAN LYING IMBECILE==>>YOUR CULTURE IS SLAVIC!NOT HELLENIC!YOU BELONG TO THE SLAVIC TRIBES OF THE SLAVIC RACE!WHICH HAS FAKC ALL TO DO WITH THE HELLENIC TRIBE OF THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS!WHO WERE HELLENES IN EVERY WAY!THE OFFICIAL BACKGROUND OF BOTH CANADA AND USA IS ENGLISH!AND BOTH OF THEIR POPULATION IS MADE UP OF IMMIGRANTS!WHAT'S YOUR POINT!!YOU HAVE NO CONNECTION OR RELATION TO THE HELLENIC MACEDONIANS!YOU ARE NOT HELLENES!YOU ARE FAKCEN SLAVS!BULGARIAN SLAVS TO BE EXACT!MACEDONIAN NOTHING!

Since: Mar 09

Athens, Greece

#18 Dec 27, 2011
peace and love wrote:
I agree with you on this one. We have always been welcoming and adaptive of foreign cultures. I understand why ATG said what he did to the conquered people. Greek people look a lot like us, eat similar foods, and are stubborn as us. Whatever language we spoke in the BC times is not even relevant. It's like saying Canada is really the US cause they speak English and we consider them as brothers. Maybe 2000 years from now we can make that work. <quoted text>
CAN YOU ANSWER THIS???

"Didn't the Ancient Macedonians have their own Language, Culture and Gods THAT THEY WERE PROUD OF?" After all, as your side claim, they were a great separate nation and were very strong and 'invaded' the Greeks and defeated them all, and the Macedonian Hegemony lasted for over 300 years - why would they just abandon their precious national LANGUAGE, CULTURE and GODS?

WELL???

If you can answer this HONESTLY you will come to the only conclusion that is logical, the same conclusion believed BY ALL THE CIVILIZED WORLD:

The Ancient Macedonians COULD ONLY BE GREEKS!
peace and love

Norristown, PA

#19 Dec 27, 2011
My answer is that if you quack like a duck and act like a duck that does not make you a duck. We pull the batteries out of you and it makes you a piece of plastic.
ATG respected the ancient Greek culture. Today's Grease has nothing worth respecting.
Damianos wrote:
<quoted text>
CAN YOU ANSWER THIS???
"Didn't the Ancient Macedonians have their own Language, Culture and Gods THAT THEY WERE PROUD OF?" After all, as your side claim, they were a great separate nation and were very strong and 'invaded' the Greeks and defeated them all, and the Macedonian Hegemony lasted for over 300 years - why would they just abandon their precious national LANGUAGE, CULTURE and GODS?
WELL???
If you can answer this HONESTLY you will come to the only conclusion that is logical, the same conclusion believed BY ALL THE CIVILIZED WORLD:
The Ancient Macedonians COULD ONLY BE GREEKS!

“F.K.A...kolonosk opje”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#21 Dec 27, 2011
peace and love wrote:
My answer is that if you quack like a duck and act like a duck that does not make you a duck. We pull the batteries out of you and it makes you a piece of plastic.
ATG respected the ancient Greek culture. Today's Grease has nothing worth respecting. <quoted text>
your answer is just about right.. you quack like a duck and act like a duck..because you can't simply answer a question without beating around the bush and of course we already know you know you have sqat to do with Ancient Macedonians..tell us when ATG met up with slavs and learned the serbo-bulgarian-croatian dialect...was that 1000 years later after he croaked so to speak?

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