Is The Nation of Islam a Racist Cult? Professor Esposito Says Yes.

Aug 15, 2008 | Posted by: DobyTheDoggy | Full story: www.sullivan-county.com

Quoting Huma Ahmad at www.jannah.org,

"(Islam and) the so called "Nation of Islam'" are two different religions. NOI is more of a political organization...Muslims consider this group to be just one of many cults using the name of Islam for their own gain...The Nation of Islam" is a misnomer; this religion should be called Farrakhanism, after the name of its propagator, Louis Farrakhan...For example, Farakhan followers believe in racism and that the 'black man' was the original man and therefore superior, while in Islam there is no racism and everyone is considered equal in the sight of God...the 'Nation's teachings have little to do with true Islam. There are many groups in America who claim to represent Islam and call their adherents Muslims...In America there are many pseudo-Islamic cults, Farrakhanism being one of them. An honest attitude on the part of such cults should be not to call themselves Muslims and their religion Islam..."

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Interesting article doby, his opinions reflect those of many Muslims else where, the NOI is more of a political movement then a religious one, Islam hasn't got anything to do with politics or black nationalism.

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Interesting article doby, his opinions reflect those of many Muslims else where, the NOI is more of a political movement then a religious one, Islam hasn't got anything to do with politics or black nationalism.
I agree. Yet, there lies the problem that so many people are fooled by the NOI cult using the name Muslim. Thus spreading hate and racism in a can labeled erroneously.

That must stop. I have several great Muslim friends and when I showed them this forum and the writings of a few fools here, there were bothered and offended.

Sad....

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Before any Black person in America can intelligently talk about "accomplishments," by, of, and for Black people, that person -- be he Muslim or not -- must look at the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, The Messenger of Allah.

http://www.muhammadspeaks.com/MessengerHistor...

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Before any Black person in America can intelligently talk about "accomplishments," by, of, and for Black people, that person -- be he Muslim or not -- must look at the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, The Messenger of Allah.
Why? Says who?

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Before any Black person in America can intelligently talk about "accomplishments," by, of, and for Black people, that person -- be he Muslim or not -- must look at the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, The Messenger of Allah.
http://www.muhammadspeaks.com/MessengerHistor...
Are you serious?? Allah said the last messenger and prophet was Muhammad, no more would come after him.

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way to confusing..........Follow the Bible and what God teaches. Accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior and you will be saved. No hate, no Fakeacons, no anything just truth.

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way to confusing..........Follow the Bible and what God teaches. Accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior and you will be saved. No hate, no Fakeacons, no anything just truth.
Harmony and tolerance for religious diversity will not be accomplished by trying to force feed Christianity down peoples throats either. By doing that, you are no better than the NOI or any other organization of it's kind.

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if you wanted to unite the world under one banner, you don't need groups who are interested in nationalism because then it conflicts with your nationalism.

ergo the NOI is label racist to keep Blacks divided. I'll tell you this, if the NOI had the good sense to realize they are no different than the Baptist church, i'd join...

Pro Black in America means anti white to those used to having their way...
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An attack on the Nation of Islam, is that convenient. The NOI is not the cause it is the affect. Why would any Black man attack an institution that promotes so many positive things with in the Black community?

There are many whites who are beginning to listen to and even though the right guidance of the NOI.

What a COWARD a Black man would have to be to attack one of the strongest voices that stood for the hurt, pain and despair Black people have suffered in America.

Now that thing are a little better how easy it is to look down at the Black Panthers, the NOI and other organizations who would not tolerate the ill treatment inflicted on Black and oppressed people.

NOI racist - Read the history of America and say that with a straight face. There is no history of violence, no lynching white men, no abusing white women, no desecrating Jewish temples, just the demand for Freedom, Justice and Equality and calling a spade a spade.

What a COWARD a Black man must be to side with the oppressor.

And as far as the Orthodox community of Muslims, the ones who sell Black people pork, the ones who sleep with poor Black women, the ones who see the condition of the Black community and have not lifted a hand to help in anyway. To HELL with the Cowardly Blacks and the Hypocrites.

Until our condition is justified and equal to everyone else on the planet, thank Allah for Minister Louis Farrakhan and the Al Sharptons, Jesse Jacksons, Malik Zulu Shabazz and all the other unnamed Freedom Fighters and to Hell with the COWARD!

Go take that to the enemy, I'm sure he is waiting for your report.

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ISLAM: Record Holder of Genocide

Islam has the world's record of genocide. Its victims, over more than 1,350 years, number in the hundreds of millions, many more than the victims of the Holocaust and World Communism combined. Muslim genocide is still ongoing in the Sudan, Ivory Cost. Mauritania, Somalia, the Philippines, Indonesia, and, to a lesser extent in other Muslim countries.

"The massacres perpetuated by Muslims in India are unparalleled in history, bigger than the Holocaust of the Jews by the Nazis; or the massacre of the Armenians by the Turks; more extensive even than the slaughter of the South American native populations by the invading Spanish and Portuguese." - Francois Gautier

More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined. Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years.

"A Muslim apostate once suggested to me a litmus test for Westerners who believe that Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance: try making that point on a street corner in Ramallah, or Riyadh, or Islamabad, or anywhere in the Muslim world. He assured me you wouldn't live five minutes."

Islam is at perpetual war with the non-Islamic world (the Qur'an 4:76, 60:4). Muslims must hate
the non-Muslims, humiliate them, distrust them, deceive them at every opportunity, and kill them when the situation is appropriate. This is the stipulation of the central doctrine of Islam. A Muslim who does not emulate this cardinal premise of Islam is not a Muslim at all.

Killing, assassination, terrorism and bloodshed are the DNA codes of Islam. Even if the whole world converts to Islam, the true Muslims will continue perpetrating bloodshed. If they don't get the blood of infidels, they kill one another. This is the legacy of 1400 years of Islamic rule. The best example is Pakistan or Iraq where 97% of the population is Muslim, yet there is bloodshed of Muslims by Muslims. A Pakistani suicide bomber killed at least fifty Muslims (worshippers) while they were praying in a mosque on the occasion of Eid-ul-Azha. This is the stark proof that violence and killing are inseparable from Islam.

Terrified, many non-Muslims often ask: what do the Islamist terrorists want? They want to convert the entire world into an Islamic Paradise. There is no surprise in this. During his days, Muhammad had asked the Muslims to terrorize the world until Islam rules supreme (Quran 3:85, 5:3, 5:33). Qur'an exhorts the Muslims to keep fighting (with swords, not spiritually) until they perfect the world through Islamic purification and domination (Qur'an 9:5, 9:29, and 9:33). In
reality, it means imposing on the non-Muslims (or the non-Arabs) the Arabic and Bedouin culture (also known as Islam) by force, murder and terrorism.

We must recognize that the real enemy is not the terrorists. Rather, it is Islam.

"Christians believe that "love conquers all." Well, love does not conquer Islam." - Bill Warner

"Just as cancer cannot be reformed... Islam can't be reformed either and it must be eradicated for the world to be saved." - Ali Sina

"The object of jihad is to bring the whole world under Islamic law...In an Islamic state, there is in principle no law other than the shar'ia, the Holy Law of Islam...The idea that any group of persons, any kind of activities, or any part of human life is in any sense outside the scope of religious law and jurisdiction is alien to Muslim thought." - Bernard Lewis

"Apologizing to the Muslims for the Crusades is a complete betrayal to the Crusaders who sacrificed their lives to stop Muslim invasion." - Galadriel (anonymous evangelical Christian)
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Interesting article doby, his opinions reflect those of many Muslims else where, the NOI is more of a political movement then a religious one, Islam hasn't got anything to do with politics or black nationalism.
I agree. One of my cousins was studying Islam, years ago, and I asked him if he was studying with the NOI and he said "No", and that the mosque he chose has many different ethnicities attended, "I am studying with the REAL ones", he said."
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Before any Black person in America can intelligently talk about "accomplishments," by, of, and for Black people, that person -- be he Muslim or not -- must look at the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, The Messenger of Allah.
http://www.muhammadspeaks.com/MessengerHistor...
You mean Elijah Poole, no he never legally changed his name, from Georgia? LOL The dude in the Moon, Stars and Clovers hat LOL That's your prophet?
And you wonder why people make fun of you. LOL
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ISRAEL 1948 well said

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ISRAEL 1948 well said
Thank you, I'm glad people are getting the message.

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Israel1948 wrote:
ISLAM: Record Holder of Genocide
Islam has the world's record of genocide. Its victims, over more than 1,350 years, number in the hundreds of millions, many more than the victims of the Holocaust and World Communism combined. Muslim genocide is still ongoing in the Sudan, Ivory Cost. Mauritania, Somalia, the Philippines, Indonesia, and, to a lesser extent in other Muslim countries.
"The massacres perpetuated by Muslims in India are unparalleled in history, bigger than the Holocaust of the Jews by the Nazis; or the massacre of the Armenians by the Turks; more extensive even than the slaughter of the South American native populations by the invading Spanish and Portuguese." - Francois Gautier
More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined. Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years.
"A Muslim apostate once suggested to me a litmus test for Westerners who believe that Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance: try making that point on a street corner in Ramallah, or Riyadh, or Islamabad, or anywhere in the Muslim world. He assured me you wouldn't live five minutes."
Islam is at perpetual war with the non-Islamic world (the Qur'an 4:76, 60:4). Muslims must hate
the non-Muslims, humiliate them, distrust them, deceive them at every opportunity, and kill them when the situation is appropriate. This is the stipulation of the central doctrine of Islam. A Muslim who does not emulate this cardinal premise of Islam is not a Muslim at all.
Killing, assassination, terrorism and bloodshed are the DNA codes of Islam. Even if the whole world converts to Islam, the true Muslims will continue perpetrating bloodshed. If they don't get the blood of infidels, they kill one another. This is the legacy of 1400 years of Islamic rule. The best example is Pakistan or Iraq where 97% of the population is Muslim, yet there is bloodshed of Muslims by Muslims. A Pakistani suicide bomber killed at least fifty Muslims (worshippers) while they were praying in a mosque on the occasion of Eid-ul-Azha. This is the stark proof that violence and killing are inseparable from Islam.
Terrified, many non-Muslims often ask: what do the Islamist terrorists want? They want to convert the entire world into an Islamic Paradise. There is no surprise in this. During his days, Muhammad had asked the Muslims to terrorize the world until Islam rules supreme (Quran 3:85, 5:3, 5:33). Qur'an exhorts the Muslims to keep fighting (with swords, not spiritually) until they perfect the world through Islamic purification and domination (Qur'an 9:5, 9:29, and 9:33). In
reality, it means imposing on the non-Muslims (or the non-Arabs) the Arabic and Bedouin culture (also known as Islam) by force, murder and terrorism.
We must recognize that the real enemy is not the terrorists. Rather, it is Islam.
"Christians believe that "love conquers all." Well, love does not conquer Islam." - Bill Warner
"Just as cancer cannot be reformed... Islam can't be reformed either and it must be eradicated for the world to be saved." - Ali Sina
"The object of jihad is to bring the whole world under Islamic law...In an Islamic state, there is in principle no law other than the shar'ia, the Holy Law of Islam...The idea that any group of persons, any kind of activities, or any part of human life is in any sense outside the scope of religious law and jurisdiction is alien to Muslim thought." - Bernard Lewis
"Apologizing to the Muslims for the Crusades is a complete betrayal to the Crusaders who sacrificed their lives to stop Muslim invasion." - Galadriel (anonymous evangelical Christian)
Can you read? This isnt a Islam bashing thread, this is discussing the NOI in the perspective of Sunni Islam. BTW- Islam IS about peace, i suggest you go and learn a bit about it before you do some cutting and pasting.
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Israel1948 wrote:
ISLAM: Record Holder of Genocide
Islam has the world's record of genocide. Its victims, over more than 1,350 years, number in the hundreds of millions, many more than the victims of the Holocaust and World Communism combined. Muslim genocide is still ongoing in the Sudan, Ivory Cost. Mauritania, Somalia, the Philippines, Indonesia, and, to a lesser extent in other Muslim countries.
"The massacres perpetuated by Muslims in India are unparalleled in history, bigger than the Holocaust of the Jews by the Nazis; or the massacre of the Armenians by the Turks; more extensive even than the slaughter of the South American native populations by the invading Spanish and Portuguese." - Francois Gautier
More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined. Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years.
"A Muslim apostate once suggested to me a litmus test for Westerners who believe that Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance: try making that point on a street corner in Ramallah, or Riyadh, or Islamabad, or anywhere in the Muslim world. He assured me you wouldn't live five minutes."
Islam is at perpetual war with the non-Islamic world (the Qur'an 4:76, 60:4). Muslims must hate
the non-Muslims, humiliate them, distrust them, deceive them at every opportunity, and kill them when the situation is appropriate. This is the stipulation of the central doctrine of Islam. A Muslim who does not emulate this cardinal premise of Islam is not a Muslim at all.
Killing, assassination, terrorism and bloodshed are the DNA codes of Islam. Even if the whole world converts to Islam, the true Muslims will continue perpetrating bloodshed. If they don't get the blood of infidels, they kill one another. This is the legacy of 1400 years of Islamic rule. The best example is Pakistan or Iraq where 97% of the population is Muslim, yet there is bloodshed of Muslims by Muslims. A Pakistani suicide bomber killed at least fifty Muslims (worshippers) while they were praying in a mosque on the occasion of Eid-ul-Azha. This is the stark proof that violence and killing are inseparable from Islam.
Terrified, many non-Muslims often ask: what do the Islamist terrorists want? They want to convert the entire world into an Islamic Paradise. There is no surprise in this. During his days, Muhammad had asked the Muslims to terrorize the world until Islam rules supreme (Quran 3:85, 5:3, 5:33). Qur'an exhorts the Muslims to keep fighting (with swords, not spiritually) until they perfect the world through Islamic purification and domination (Qur'an 9:5, 9:29, and 9:33). In
reality, it means imposing on the non-Muslims (or the non-Arabs) the Arabic and Bedouin culture (also known as Islam) by force, murder and terrorism.
We must recognize that the real enemy is not the terrorists. Rather, it is Islam.
"Christians believe that "love conquers all." Well, love does not conquer Islam." - Bill Warner
"Just as cancer cannot be reformed... Islam can't be reformed either and it must be eradicated for the world to be saved." - Ali Sina
"The object of jihad is to bring the whole world under Islamic law...In an Islamic state, there is in principle no law other than the shar'ia, the Holy Law of Islam...The idea that any group of persons, any kind of activities, or any part of human life is in any sense outside the scope of religious law and jurisdiction is alien to Muslim thought." - Bernard Lewis
"Apologizing to the Muslims for the Crusades is a complete betrayal to the Crusaders who sacrificed their lives to stop Muslim invasion." - Galadriel (anonymous evangelical Christian)
LOL! such b.s.
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I'm amazed that anyones talking about the NOI with any credibility. Its almost like Malcom X never lived and died. You want voices of sanity and reason that guy had it and rejected their philosophy of warped hate.
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I say it's B.S. because the baptist can say that the Methodist aren't true xtians because they allow gay priest, however they are just two side of the same coin. Islam is an expanionist religion just like christianity. If you don't believe me read the history of Islam in Africa. The REAL history.

Islam is just as "peaceful" as xtianity.

people are absolutely stupid and there's no hope for us because of it..
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noi hates whites, jews, homosexuals, catholics. ami i missing anyone else, oh yea, mexians and asians. they live in a world of there own, they are similar to that of the white KKK, only african. however, not all muislims and blacks share this distorted view, just like all whites do not share a view of hate. islam is peace and does not condone the noi teachings because islam shares all races. noi is a fraud. it was started out of anger of racism. said though, watitdo has so much hate that he will be in hell before any of us.
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