Vatican Secretary of State Blames Ho...

Vatican Secretary of State Blames Homosexuality for Abuse

There are 47 comments on the www.womanist-musings.com story from Apr 14, 2010, titled Vatican Secretary of State Blames Homosexuality for Abuse. In it, www.womanist-musings.com reports that:

As the Vatican secretary of state, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone is one of the highest officials in the Roman Catholic Church.So when he commented on the sex abuse crises in the church at a news conference in Chile it got a lot attention. The problem said Bertone is not rooted in celibacy but in homosexuality.

“Many psychologists, many psychiatrists have demonstrated that there is no link between celibacy and pedophilia. But many others I was told recently that there is a relationship between homosexuality and pedophilia”.

There is no evidence that homosexuality and pedophilia are linked. Though Bertone claimed that psychologists and psychiatrists had proven that the two are indeed linked, that he did not list any names, or qualify where this supposed research came from. Pedophile priests exist in the Catholic church because pedophiles exist in the larger society.

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Spider

Alpharetta, GA

#1 Apr 14, 2010
So......

Here we have Pope Jr. standing outside the courthouse in Chili where a priest is being tried for molesting a girl......

.....blaming it on the gays?? What has he been snorting?

We ALL know what HE is hiding, don't we!

World Class Stupidity
elaygee

Winter Park, FL

#2 Apr 14, 2010
Why does anyone listen to anything that a bunch of old men in frilly dresses with loads of gaudy jewelry and patent leather pumps have to say? They're nothing but drag queens with big audiences and magnificent stages to perform on. Never mind that they have an "invisible firend" who tells them what to do and what to say. Without the costumes and real estate, they'd be Baker Acted and forced to take anti-psychotic meds.
denise

Fenton, MI

#3 Apr 14, 2010
how does someone with so much 'sway' and visibility get so stupid? is this where they claim the pedophilia is caught by being homosexual? talk about the evils of being queer? does this work the same way republicans pretend they are not gay and vote against any equality of the law and then go cruise gay men in bathrooms? or how about when ted haggard claims the devil made him do it and hires a stud and orders meth-amphetimine? it's obvious to me this dude is talking through his a-hole. it's scary that such ignorant people have the ability to reach the masses. the catholic church needs to be disolved and go on trial for crimes agains children. how are they getting away with raping children in the name of god? this is as bad as being raped by a parent. these people need to be arrested and put in jail. does anyone besides me see that they are condoning pedophilia while condemning homosexuality? there's something wrong with this. a sickness like pedophilia has nothing to do with homosexuality, which has been deemed as not being a sickness. the catholic church is just a big money making organization with a lot of influence over their sheep. what a group of hypocrites. get the catholic church out of business.
Spider

Alpharetta, GA

#4 Apr 14, 2010
denise wrote:
.....get the catholic church out of business.
Putting the catholic church out of business will create another big problem: 400,000 pedophiles dumped in the unemployment lines all at the same time.

Who; besides churches; hires pedophiles these days?

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#5 Apr 14, 2010
We gays blame the vatican and the criminals who committed and allowed these crimes to go on.

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#7 Apr 14, 2010
elaygee wrote:
Why does anyone listen to anything that a bunch of old men in frilly dresses with loads of gaudy jewelry and patent leather pumps have to say? They're nothing but drag queens with big audiences and magnificent stages to perform on. Never mind that they have an "invisible firend" who tells them what to do and what to say. Without the costumes and real estate, they'd be Baker Acted and forced to take anti-psychotic meds.
Did you know that they have all this real estate, because way back when (don't know the exact timing) they declared priests must be celebate so that the "real estate" would stay in the church and not be passed down to their children. Nothing biblical about it. Only GREED!!!
Mona Lott

Elizabeth, NJ

#8 Apr 14, 2010
Gay Mom wrote:
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Did you know that they have all this real estate, because way back when (don't know the exact timing) they declared priests must be celebate so that the "real estate" would stay in the church and not be passed down to their children. Nothing biblical about it. Only GREED!!!
The Vatican is also the largest holder of Egyptian antiquities on the planet. Maybe it's time for Egypt to get their "stuff" back before the Vatican goes bankrupt over child abuse law suits.
RealSheryl

East Stroudsburg, PA

#9 Apr 14, 2010
Gay Mom wrote:
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Did you know that they have all this real estate, because way back when (don't know the exact timing) they declared priests must be celebate so that the "real estate" would stay in the church and not be passed down to their children. Nothing biblical about it. Only GREED!!!
Gay Mom, oh yes...they wanted all property and possessions left to the church.
Bob

Houston, TX

#10 Apr 14, 2010
Personally, I think there's a relationship between the priesthood and pedophilia. I blame catholicism!
RealSheryl

East Stroudsburg, PA

#11 Apr 14, 2010
Bob wrote:
Personally, I think there's a relationship between the priesthood and pedophilia. I blame catholicism!
Many people feel as you do.

“Nothing but me”

Since: Apr 08

Kansas City

#12 Apr 14, 2010
Blame it on the gays, blame it on the Jews, blame it on the victims... I guess the only people not at fault are the priests who molested, and the bishops who did nothing about it.(But if it wasn't the priests' fault, I guess there was nothing TO do about it.)
There's a word for that in Yiddish - Chutzpa!

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#13 Apr 14, 2010
Spider wrote:
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Putting the catholic church out of business will create another big problem: 400,000 pedophiles dumped in the unemployment lines all at the same time.
Who; besides churches; hires pedophiles these days?
Not to mention the homeless problem. Sex offenders are not welcome to liv anywhere--especially not pedophiles.
pauline 2

Minneapolis, MN

#14 Apr 14, 2010
Nothing like Blame them, not us. for such a thing.
Pedophilia happens in Heteros more than with any GAY or TRANS persons.

Pedophilia is a crime of power over children.
Who would a child go to if abused, their priest. What does a Priest say, Bend Over.

Sorry, the RCC must admit their problem and show the world that it happened and will never happen again, and not look for an excuse to pass blame.
denise

Fenton, MI

#15 Apr 14, 2010
please, i would like to outlaw the use of the word 'molest'. it's just a soft, kind way of saying rape. children who are groomed, maniuplated, scared and used toward sexual acts by grown adults is rape. this is a crime. arrest these priests. this is no different than a 'nasty' stepfather, except he goes to jail. close down the whoreshouse called the catholic religion and split their assests among the victim of the catholic religion. christ, it's like they are grooming the next generation of rapists...all in the name of god. how can they look at themselves in the mirror? how do you find a way to lie to yourself and discount the life and soul of one child to save a corrupt institution? why aren't the catholics outraged? why are they risking and sacrificing their children to the church? this isn't faith, it's brainwashing.

Since: Jan 08

Bangkok, Thailand

#16 Apr 14, 2010
Gay Mom wrote:
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Did you know that they have all this real estate, because way back when (don't know the exact timing) they declared priests must be celebate so that the "real estate" would stay in the church and not be passed down to their children. Nothing biblical about it. Only GREED!!!
I had heard that the RCC began demanding celibacy because they didn't want to pay pensions to widows. Again, it was greed... Surprise, surprise!
Writerly

Seattle, WA

#17 Apr 14, 2010
"But many others I was told recently that there is a relationship..."
I wonder if he's also heard about the rumored connection between decent grammar and people knowing/caring just what the hell you're talking about. I don't care if it's a translation, that's one messed up sentence.
pauline 2

Minneapolis, MN

#18 Apr 14, 2010
It had some very close roots to that.

Used to be that the oldest child would inherit everything. so second sons would go off to a convent/monastery to serve the Church, the parent would see to it that large donations were made for his care.

If the brother died with no male Heir, the second brother would inherit. Since he was already in the church they would promote him to keep him in the church. It also means just as you said, the church inherited the farm.

Female children would inherit nothing, but if they were not a marriageable commodity ( yes that is how they were viewed) for power or money, off they went to the church as well, also provided with large endowments for their care.

The RCC will never give a real and complete accounting of their wealth. It would be scary.

At the time of the ban on marriage they aslo banned the same sex marriage, The RC used to marry men as well.
Moses

Brookvale, Australia

#19 Apr 14, 2010
elaygee wrote:
Why does anyone listen to anything that a bunch of old men in frilly dresses with loads of gaudy jewelry and patent leather pumps have to say? They're nothing but drag queens with big audiences and magnificent stages to perform on. Never mind that they have an "invisible firend" who tells them what to do and what to say. Without the costumes and real estate, they'd be Baker Acted and forced to take anti-psychotic meds.
I think you're being unfair to Drag Queens. LOL!! At they're funny!(mostly)
For Petes Sake

United States

#21 Apr 14, 2010
No other religions are notorious for molesting it's children.
No other religions are notorious for celibacy.
Other religions have more gay and lesbian pastors than we are supposed to know of.
What's the difference between the Catholics and the others?
The others don't get orders from a Vatican with an awful epidemic of stupid.
RealSheryl

East Stroudsburg, PA

#22 Apr 14, 2010
pauline 2 wrote:
Nothing like Blame them, not us. for such a thing.
Pedophilia happens in Heteros more than with any GAY or TRANS persons.
Pedophilia is a crime of power over children.
Who would a child go to if abused, their priest. What does a Priest say, Bend Over.
Sorry, the RCC must admit their problem and show the world that it happened and will never happen again, and not look for an excuse to pass blame.
hi pauline, if the RC church admits their problem and is adamant about being extremely careful in the future, it would be able to gain some respect. I think that's really its only hope.

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