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Athens balks at UN ruling on Macedonia name dispute

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The International Court of Justice has decided in Macedonia's favor in a long-standing dispute over the country's name with Greece.

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“Progressive liberal politic”

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Mar 3, 2012
 
FYROM need immediately to join EU and NATO.

Greece pay very big cost if FYROM is out of EU and NATO.
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Fyrom would never join EU and Nato. Because as a Greek voter I have the power to make sure they never will

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Macedon wrote:
Fyrom would never join EU and Nato. Because as a Greek voter I have the power to make sure they never will
If FYROM not join EU and NATO, the biggest looser will be the Greece.
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no problem. My name is not a matter for negotiaion
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Mar 3, 2012
 
first they must find a new name and then welcome

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Bronzilla wrote:
first they must find a new name and then welcome
If Greece say that is the continuing of Ancient Macedonia, then is plus for Greece if humans from the neighbour country feel same.

And i remember to you, that Slavic-phone humans was equal part of Vyzantium. Humans from Greece and from FYROM, both was "Romaics".

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Macedonia = Glory

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Poetry in Motion
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Mar 3, 2012
 
Not interested in fake Greeks from Fyrom.

I am more interested about actual Countries.
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Macedon wrote:
Not interested in fake Greeks from Fyrom.
I am more interested about actual Countries.
Hell Ass is the fake country AND it's bankrupt. Soon it'll be expelled from the E.U and replaced with Makedonia.
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neobyzantine wrote:
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If Greece say that is the continuing of Ancient Macedonia, then is plus for Greece if humans from the neighbour country feel same.
And i remember to you, that Slavic-phone humans was equal part of Vyzantium. Humans from Greece and from FYROM, both was "Romaics".
in Byzantium first was when we see slavs arriving
you forgot ?
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The Sultan wrote:
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Hell Ass is the fake country AND it's bankrupt. Soon it'll be expelled from the E.U and replaced with Makedonia.
Yeap and the klingons attacked Han solo
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[="ALEXANDAR-MAKEDONSKI-K ING"]MACEDONIAN SPOKE ALWAYS MACEDONIAN =========
== ETHIOPIAN [GAY REEKS] SPOKE AFRICAN-ETHIOPIAN]==
===WITH SAME ALPAHBET;;;; DAM APES;;;;;ENJOY IT!==
====MALAKES '''YOU ARE DAM AS A DONKEY=======
=====FULL OF SHIT--PS ANCENT MACEDONIANS''====
===PROVES TO BE A PURE MACEDONIAN TRIBE PEOPLE====
=====YOU DAM ETHIOPIAN[GAY REEKS] DNA PROVES YOU==
====AFRICAN[ETHIOPIAN WITH SAME ALPHABET;;;===
====SO GO SUX ON BANANA BACK IN CAGE BABOONS ===
====LONG LIVE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER========[/

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ALEXANDAR-MAKEDONSKI-KING wrote:
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you are a disgrace

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Alexander add his Guards

During the reign of Alexander the Great, the Macedonians spoke their own native language, as the native language language of

***Alexander the Great was not understood by the ancient Greeks (Quintus Curtius Rufus, VI, 9,***

*** 37 ). Similarly, Plutarch points out that Alexander spoke to his fellow countrymen in Macedonian: "he [Alexander] called out aloud to his guards in the Macedonian language, which was a certain sign of some great disturbance in him" (Plutarch, Alexander, 51).***

Still, Alexander spoke also Greek, loved Homer, and respected his tutor Aristotle. At the same time though, there is much evidence that generally he was not fond of the Greeks of his day. The chronicler Curtius, describing the atmosphere before a battle, gave a notion of the different attitudes of the great commander, who psychognostically applied the principle of identity to every ethnic group in his army. In respect to the various motives for taking part in that war, Curtius wrote:

"Riding to the front line he [Alexander the Great] named the soldiers and they responded from spot to spot where they were lined up. The Macedonians, who had won so many battles in Europe and set off to invade Asia ... got encouragement from him - he reminded them of their permanent values. They were the world's liberators and one day they would pass the frontiers set by Hercules and Patter Liber. They would subdue all races on Earth. Bactrius and India would become Macedonian provinces. Getting closer to the Greeks, he reminded them that those were the people who provoked war with Greece,... those were the people that burned their temples and cities ... As the Illirians and Trakians lived mainly from plunder, he told them to look at the enemy line glittering in gold ..."

Q. C. Rufus, Alexander III, 10, 4-10

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Alexander phalanx had to be add in Macedonian

This clearly shows that the phalanx had to be addressed in Macedonian, if one wanted to be sure (as Ambiance certainly did) that they would understand.

And almost equally interesting - he did not address them himself, as he and other commanders normally address soldiers who understood them, nor did he sent a Greek.

The suggestion is surely that Macedonian was the language of the infantry and that Greek was a difficult, indeed a foreign language to them.

We may thus take it as certain that, when Alexander used Macedonian in addressing his guards, that too was because it was their normal language, and because (like Ambiance) he had to be sure he would be understood".

It is documented that Ambiance had experienced extreme difficulties in commanding the Macedonian soldiers.

His disability was "not only his Greek birth, as has always being realized, but the simple fact that he could not directly communicate with the Macedonian soldiers".

"His alien culture and provenance were not only obvious in an accent; it was a matter of a language".

["It was a matter of a language..."]

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neobyzantine wrote:
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If FYROM not join EU and NATO, the biggest looser will be the Greece.
Let them choose a proper adjective for the language-ethnicity-citizenship and Greece should stop denying NATO's membership for FTYROM.

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Rosetta stone wrote:
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["It was a matter of a language..."]
Macedonian language is in Pella curse tablet.
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pella_curse_tablet
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Rosetta stone wrote:
“After the capture of Sirmium in 582, Avars and Slavs poured into the Balkans. Latin cities in Illyricum and Greek cities on the Dalmatian coast, and in Epirus, Makedonia and Thrace suffered destructions”

(Chronicle of Fredegar, Dvornik 1956)

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Istor wrote:
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Let them choose a proper adjective for the language-ethnicity-citizenship and Greece should stop denying NATO's membership for FTYROM.
Is big plus for Greece, if the FYROM call "Macedonia".
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neobyzantine wrote:
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Is big plus for Greece, if the FYROM call "Macedonia".
thank god we know better what is plus for Greece. Slavs need to get it in their heads. No game with Greek names and symbols

Know what i mean? No Eu and Nato - period

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