French Socialist's big idea: tax the rich

Apr 3, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: WTOP-FM Washington

French presidential candidate Francois Hollande, leading in polls but lacking in ideas that stick in voters' minds, finally dropped a bombshell: As president, he would levy a 75 percent tax on anyone who makes more than 1 million a year.

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Apr 10, 2012
 
Alexandre wrote:
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Leon, I agree with you, I hate the socialists too and especially Mitterrand. He was arrogant but in reality he was a coward and a collabo, and when he eventually became President, he totally destroyed the French economy.
Hollande is also planning to bring in Communists in his party (Melanchon) like Mitterrand did. We should also send him a hoookker to his bedroom and then handcuff him like the criminal that he is.
THis a real outrage!!!!!
But... to say that Thatcher was great is also an outrage and totally untrue. Thatcher actually destoyed the UK's industry with her liberal economic model that she followed blindly!! As a result, today the UK is a desolate country with a lower GDP per capita than France or Germany, a huge debt burden and trade deficit. Thatcher destroyed the middle class. The UK is an economy centered on real estate and finance and services, a "paper economy".
YOu cant follow an ideology blindly like it is God's word. You have to be pragmatic, protect your industry whenever you can, spur growth and innovation with government subsidies if need be, keep taxes low, but tax and chase the super rich who contribute nothing to your economy. Well what I am describing here is the German model, a model that soon all of Europe will follow.
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Ha, ha, ha,, if you don't like socialism (I can understand that) or liberal economy, there is nowhere else to go!

Still believing that money grows on trees, eh?
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typical neo-Marxist.

AND, all the immigrants that the French allow to vote will vote for him! Another typical dilution tactic used by international Marxists.
ronan

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Apr 10, 2012
 
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typical neo-Marxist.
AND, all the immigrants that the French allow to vote will vote for him! Another typical dilution tactic used by international Marxists.
Obviously these correspondance sociology classes you are following have gone to your head ...
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Ha, ha, ha,, if you don't like socialism (I can understand that) or liberal economy, there is nowhere else to go!
Still believing that money grows on trees, eh?
just making a point that Thatcher was a disaster. the old witch totally destroyed your country's industry. England is an economy de papier today. Without government inetrvention, France wouldnt have Airbus, a aerospace industry or even a car industry for that matter!!!
we need intelligent people in power Ronan, like De Gaulle, politicians not swayed by any kind of idelogoy or manipulated by lobbies (= Thatcher)

~A~
ronan

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Apr 11, 2012
 
Alexandre wrote:
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just making a point that Thatcher was a disaster. the old witch totally destroyed your country's industry. England is an economy de papier today. Without government inetrvention, France wouldnt have Airbus, a aerospace industry or even a car industry for that matter!!!
we need intelligent people in power Ronan, like De Gaulle, politicians not swayed by any kind of idelogoy or manipulated by lobbies (= Thatcher)
~A~
Thatcher was God's blessing for the UK. She redressed our economy, tamed the unions, introduced efficiency and closed down unprofitable industries.
She was pragmatic, a believer in market forces and liberal economy. She attracted foreign businesses like Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi, etc...
She shut down money-loosing state sectors like shipyards, coal mines, and privatised transports, banking, airlines, etc...
French industries survive because of protectionism, state help and the taxpayers money. France is at the mercy of trade unions, and always on strike. Socialist France doesn't like success and confiscates profitable enterprises: coal mines in the past, railway companies, Renault, Dassault, etc...
In France, what isn't state-owned yet is about to be confiscated under their "state intervention" mentality.
Again, Airbus isn't French! It's an European consortium with Hermany, Britain, Spain and France as partners.
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Apr 12, 2012
 
ronan wrote:
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Thatcher was God's blessing for the UK. She redressed our economy, tamed the unions, introduced efficiency and closed down unprofitable industries.
She was pragmatic, a believer in market forces and liberal economy. She attracted foreign businesses like Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi, etc...
She shut down money-loosing state sectors like shipyards, coal mines, and privatised transports, banking, airlines, etc...
French industries survive because of protectionism, state help and the taxpayers money. France is at the mercy of trade unions, and always on strike. Socialist France doesn't like success and confiscates profitable enterprises: coal mines in the past, railway companies, Renault, Dassault, etc...
In France, what isn't state-owned yet is about to be confiscated under their "state intervention" mentality.
Again, Airbus isn't French! It's an European consortium with Hermany, Britain, Spain and France as partners.
Airbus was French orginally and we let other countries participate, but its mostly French even today.
THe UK has no car industry of its own Ronan. All these companies you quoted are foreign. And please remember than 10-15% of jobs in any industrialised country depend on the car industry. She sure as hell shut down shipyards and many other industries.
JUst check the figures before you rate someone (unemployment, GDP per capita etc). Overall her record is a disaster.

But wars always make leaders popular

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Apr 13, 2012
 
Yes Alexander when the socialists come into power, i m always frightned. Just this tall one Jospin was tall and strong didn't change so much the tax system and gave a good image of the country.
In the past when i was in France, i have heard so many little boss or carftmen, or heard stories of important boss saying : i have work, a lot, but i cannot hire people, it's too expensive. You hire someone, you must pay the double to the government for the tax.
You know an engineer or a lawyer or an architect earn 2000 euros often at the beginning and during many years in France. And the women who sweep the ground or the one who clean the beds in the hospital earn 1200 euros in France. Those earn too much. The labour should have 600 euros and should not own a car. It is so in many countries.
People who study and have responsibilities are not rewarded compare to the sweeper or labour.
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Apr 17, 2012
 
leon wrote:
Yes Alexander when the socialists come into power, i m always frightned. Just this tall one Jospin was tall and strong didn't change so much the tax system and gave a good image of the country.
In the past when i was in France, i have heard so many little boss or carftmen, or heard stories of important boss saying : i have work, a lot, but i cannot hire people, it's too expensive. You hire someone, you must pay the double to the government for the tax.
You know an engineer or a lawyer or an architect earn 2000 euros often at the beginning and during many years in France. And the women who sweep the ground or the one who clean the beds in the hospital earn 1200 euros in France. Those earn too much. The labour should have 600 euros and should not own a car. It is so in many countries.
People who study and have responsibilities are not rewarded compare to the sweeper or labour.
Very good points you made here Leon. I agree that we should not have a minimum salary, its a burden on the middle class.

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