Human Rights Worse After Gaddafi

Jul 14, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Inter Press Service

Hawary showed IPS testimonies from families whose loved ones have been beaten to death in the custody of the many militias that continue to control vast swathes of Libya.

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Again, this should brighten up your day reminding us all of the good old days with Gayddafi. It was common then to get arrested just for photographing some odd house, a bunch of rag tag people in the streets, a warehouse or even - believe it or not - a cloud in the sky. Yes, I repeat, a simple harmless white cloud in the sky. Most things in Gayddafi's Libya were forbidden for foreigners and the weather was one of them.
The gal can be thankful it wasn't Gayddafi's goons who had detained her. They'd have kept her in a rat infested dank cell for at least three months before charging her with infecting little kids with HIV, sentencing her to death for the crime and then offering her to a European country in exchanged for one of Gayddafi's misbehaving sons again.
What are you talking about? HIV infection? Before you start to screw history again, please, go and read something about what those Bulgarien nurses have done! By the way, it was Mr. Jalil who asked for a death penalty for that convinced med staff. If no Gaddafi, they would never seen their homeland again. And what about the poor infected kids? No sorry for them? Or, was it another war, like those we´ve seen as "collateral damage" or "provisionally dehoused"?

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What are you talking about? HIV infection? Before you start to screw history again, please, go and read something about what those Bulgarien nurses have done! By the way, it was Mr. Jalil who asked for a death penalty for that convinced med staff. If no Gaddafi, they would never seen their homeland again. And what about the poor infected kids? No sorry for them? Or, was it another war, like those we´ve seen as "collateral damage" or "provisionally dehoused"?
This is rich being accused of screwing history by someone who’s prime purpose seems to be screwing history every time he posts a comment. Found any more arbitrary video footage “proving” Qatari heavy armour active in Libya? LOL!

If you want history, here it is: I’ve not met a Gaddhafi scum bag lover who doesn’t believe the Gaddhafi fairy story of the big bad Bulgarian nurses. Blind and naïve of course but typical. None of these imbeciles stop and ask themselves, why on earth would a bunch of nurses and a Palestinian doctor all of a sudden conspire together to do such a thing? This is a crime that a sick loner would do and not a group. It just doesn’t figure any other way.

Also there was never any proof offered that these nurses and one doctor did it. Oh sure, plenty of confessions by the nurses, but most people would confess to the most hideous crimes if it stops the pain coming from a cable stuck up their ass and a few ampere flowing through it.

It’s a widely known fact that Gaddhafi had the habit of having foreigners arrested, accused of all sorts of bogus crimes and then order his justice minister to find them guilty and sentence them to death. Or do you really think any of his ministers really had anything to say in his regime?

Then, after much negotiation with the home country of the accused, Gaddhafi would appear and graciously pardon the heinous criminal reaping applause for his humane gesture – and at the same time cashing in a few million, the whole reason for the exercise. Gaddhafi was a scum bag, pure and simple, that explains all.

Ah, the kids! Yes, they are still there and still sick. Sorry to say. I just mention that so you can’t accuse me of having no compassion for them. Far more important though is the question, who did it?

No one knows but I can guess who is responsible. The one guy without who’s word nothing, absolutely nothing in Libya happened. The scumbag who made daily raping of any female in grabbing distance a habit of his, the sicko who used to disappear into his underground compound with a bunch of young boys for a few weeks, the violent bully who took revenge on high foreign visitors by intimidating and even beating their women folk black and blue, the criminal who financed European terrorism for 30 years. This scum bag knew no bound, had no rules, only his whims were of importance to him.

Only such a scum bag could fall so low as to order the infection of kids with HIV and then misuse them as a platform for putting a foreign country under pressure.

Don't you at least for a second find it rather strange that the world applauses a pardon after such an unforgivable crime? The perpetrators get off scott free while those innocent children’s lives have been blighted forever? Nobody screaming for the these women’s blood?

On their release not one single press release in the whole of the world demanded at least the rearrest and punishment of these women. That’s a fact. And the reason is simple, the world knows those nurses are innocent, they were framed their crime trumped up, the children just some more of Gaddhafi’s victims. If you really are sorry for these kids, face the truth and admit to it. Anything else is just scoffing the victims and their families.
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This is rich being accused of screwing history by someone who’s prime purpose seems to be screwing history every time he posts a comment. Found any more arbitrary video footage “proving” Qatari heavy armour active in Libya? LOL!
If you want history, here it is: I’ve not met a Gaddhafi scum bag lover who doesn’t believe the Gaddhafi fairy story of the big bad Bulgarian nurses. Blind and naïve of course but typical. None of these imbeciles stop and ask themselves, why on earth would a bunch of nurses and a Palestinian doctor all of a sudden conspire together to do such a thing? This is a crime that a sick loner would do and not a group. It just doesn’t figure any other way.
Also there was never any proof offered that these nurses and one doctor did it. Oh sure, plenty of confessions by the nurses, but most people would confess to the most hideous crimes if it stops the pain coming from a cable stuck up their ass and a few ampere flowing through it.
It’s a widely known fact that Gaddhafi had the habit of having foreigners arrested, accused of all sorts of bogus crimes and then order his justice minister to find them guilty and sentence them to death. Or do you really think any of his ministers really had anything to say in his regime?
Then, after much negotiation with the home country of the accused, Gaddhafi would appear and graciously pardon the heinous criminal reaping applause for his humane gesture – and at the same time cashing in a few million, the whole reason for the exercise. Gaddhafi was a scum bag, pure and simple, that explains all.
Ah, the kids! Yes, they are still there and still sick. Sorry to say. I just mention that so you can’t accuse me of having no compassion for them. Far more important though is the question, who did it?
No one knows but I can guess who is responsible. The one guy without who’s word nothing, absolutely nothing in Libya happened. The scumbag who made daily raping of any female in grabbing distance a habit of his, the sicko who used to disappear into his underground compound with a bunch of young boys for a few weeks, the violent bully who took revenge on high foreign visitors by intimidating and even beating their women folk black and blue, the criminal who financed European terrorism for 30 years. This scum bag knew no bound, had no rules, only his whims were of importance to him.
Only such a scum bag could fall so low as to order the infection of kids with HIV and then misuse them as a platform for putting a foreign country under pressure.
Don't you at least for a second find it rather strange that the world applauses a pardon after such an unforgivable crime? The perpetrators get off scott free while those innocent children’s lives have been blighted forever? Nobody screaming for the these women’s blood?
On their release not one single press release in the whole of the world demanded at least the rearrest and punishment of these women. That’s a fact. And the reason is simple, the world knows those nurses are innocent, they were framed their crime trumped up, the children just some more of Gaddhafi’s victims. If you really are sorry for these kids, face the truth and admit to it. Anything else is just scoffing the victims and their families.
You poor dumb terrorist supporting NTC propagandist stop posting these stupid BS lies and propaganda as you make yourself look so very stupid and you show that you are a 100% propagandist for the NTC and or israel and the american government.
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This is rich being accused of screwing history by someone who’s prime purpose seems to be screwing history every time he posts a comment. Found any more arbitrary video footage “proving” Qatari heavy armour active in Libya? LOL!...
It´s so tiring, sending you another and another pictures of evidence of the Quatari involvement as you simply deny anything what doesn´t comply with your stubborn idea of the nation which stood up against a dictator, bravely fighting him with fists. Well let´s try again. http://esotericarmour.blogspot.sk/2011/08/lib...
Are you really so naive Reuters would show you a real picture of what happened? The only official end of the Quataris involvement were a very few articles about a celebratory parade march in Dauha, where Al-Thani, accompanied by the Libyan rebel offcials, decorated his soldiers. Not a single word about the names or real numbers of those taking part.
The rest of your entry is only a rubbish full of hate, not worth to react.

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It´s so tiring, sending you another and another pictures of evidence of the Quatari involvement as you simply deny anything what doesn´t comply with your stubborn idea of the nation which stood up against a dictator, bravely fighting him with fists.
I find it insulting to suggest that I ignore all evidence out of hand if it doesn’t fit my opinions. I try hard to form my opinions according to evidence and I’m not impartial to changing these drastically if the evidence gives me no alternative. You and all the others have up until now failed to do this either because you’re all incompetent or you have a malicious agenda and are trying to spread heinous lies to further this.

Evidence in the form of images must fulfil four rules: objects or people in the photo and the place and time of the photo, all these must some how be evident or deductible in the image. A credible witness account of the material is always helpful in strengthening the evidence.

If just one of these is missing, it’s just not evidence. The fourth rule: the material has to be virgin, it has in no way to show signs of having been manipulated, digitally or otherwise. Even just a manipulated soundtrack renders the image material invalid. Those are not my rules, they are internationally recognised rules of any court of law. Show me such evidence and you’ll see how open minded I really am.
I forgot to say, I’m a proficient computer graphics worker and know the tell-tale signs of a manipulated photo. I mean just a superficial glance at this photo makes me ask you why it’s so out of focus that hardly any markings are recognisable and yet the cut outs supposedly showing the flags show so much detail?

If the original material is really so detailed like in the cut outs why is it not shown in all its glory if it’s supposed to prove something? Also, so what? It’s just an armoured car. The object is maybe recognisable but the time and place?

Also, the other photos of identical armoured cars weaken any proof that the first might have, if any, to offer. They show no flags on them although these are evidently manned by Libyan rebels. Why is that? Why is only the armoured car in the close up supposedly marked with flags and the others not?
Are you really so naive Reuters would show you a real picture of what happened? The only official end of the Quataris involvement were a very few articles about a celebratory parade march in Dauha, where Al-Thani, accompanied by the Libyan rebel offcials, decorated his soldiers. Not a single word about the names or real numbers of those taking part.
What makes you think I rely purely on Reuters? I gather my information from at least ten different sources, a few of them are in Russian BTW.

The only criteria I use to choose these is credibility. That is, the journalist reporting is accredited, has a reputation for reporting, has an editor responsible for the content and a credible news organisation behind him. Biased reporting is no problem as long as they stick to the truth which is easy to verify if you know where to look.
The rest of your entry is only a rubbish full of hate, not worth to react.
Truth usually hurts, but it’s all we have that we can rely on, so accept it.
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I agree.
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This is rich being accused of screwing history by someone who’s prime purpose seems to be screwing history every time he posts a comment. Found any more arbitrary video footage “proving” Qatari heavy armour active in Libya? LOL!
I'm not sure how accurate the report was as it was by the BBC or aljazeera but I saw a NATO airstrike take out a few tanks in the desert as the rebels were preparing for an offensive and the reporter mentioned the destroyed tanks had been given by Qatar to the rebels.

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<quoted text>I'm not sure how accurate the report was as it was by the BBC or aljazeera but I saw a NATO airstrike take out a few tanks in the desert as the rebels were preparing for an offensive and the reporter mentioned the destroyed tanks had been given by Qatar to the rebels.
It's no secret that Qatar supplied the rebels with heavy armoured vehicles. The Qataris even had military advisers working together with the rebels. But nobody has been able to show conclusive proof of regular Qatari troops having been active in Libya against Gaddhafi. All the photos and video footage I've been shown as proof have been manipulated usually very badly as if whoever did it wanted the manipulation to be obvious.
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Hmmm....
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It's no secret that Qatar supplied the rebels with heavy armoured vehicles. The Qataris even had military advisers working together with the rebels. But nobody has been able to show conclusive proof of regular Qatari troops having been active in Libya against Gaddhafi. All the photos and video footage I've been shown as proof have been manipulated usually very badly as if whoever did it wanted the manipulation to be obvious.
I have to agree with you and I´ve never said Qatari regular armored units were sent to Libya. Al-Thanis don´t work like this. Their way is bribing (let´s think about FIFA WW 2022 Cup)and manipulation. More likely Quatari troops used "wheels" given by rebels or purchased from a third side. The picture of an APV is only a part of a movie taken in Benghazi just after Yunis assassination and a famous prison break when Quataris were responsible for Benghazi top rank rebels protection. The footage accidentally leaked to the net being commented as "Quatari tanks crushing civilians in Benghazi" and nothing like this appeared ever after. Who knows, maybe after years we will get the truth.
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It's no secret that Qatar supplied the rebels with heavy armoured vehicles. The Qataris even had military advisers working together with the rebels. But nobody has been able to show conclusive proof of regular Qatari troops having been active in Libya against Gaddhafi. All the photos and video footage I've been shown as proof have been manipulated usually very badly as if whoever did it wanted the manipulation to be obvious.
More lies from you terrorist supporting NTC propagandist???
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there is trueth in this world.former president of America is goerge bush walking free in the world with no tria him.he must arrested and take him to the i.c.c.

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