Washington's Man in Tripoli

Washington's Man in Tripoli

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Chris

Toronto, Canada

#42 Jul 17, 2012
Ditto Dog wrote:
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You mean all I have to do is buy a printing press and start printing my own news to have such political power? So any dude can just print something like,“Bomb Iran” or “Invade N. Korea” or maybe even “Nuke China” and sell it on the street corner to start a war? Hey, this works also the other way around! Why don’t you go print your own news like “NATO is a war monger” or “Nuke NATO”?
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Here you are outperforming even yourself in stupidity. Any dude can buy a printing press and compose and distribute some news. And he can write anything. Who cares? His audience are a handful, and insignificant. But Media mogul like Murdoch reaches millions and his power of persuasion is enormous. Sure he is not going to allow his media outlets to criticize NATO, because NATO works for him. NATO is bombing countries into Regime Change, in order to broaden the opportunities for people like Murdoch, to invest and make profits: to acquire new resources, markets, and cheap labour. Sure, such multibillionaire Media mogul will keep on his payroll the journalists, who write in line with his and his group interests. And his journalists will write what is expected from them, to keep the food on the table.

The State owned media is controlled by the letter of the Law.
Privately owned media is controlled by the need to survive; actually more potent control.
You know very well that that is just BS. The media has very often been the bane of politicians in the West. Remember Watergate and what happened to Nixon? That was the media at work. And the end of the Vietnam war was partly brought about because the media reported against it. Atrocities caused by British and US soldiers in Iraq all came to light through the Western media. Western media is nobody’s friend least of all the politicians and you should be happy that it’s like that.
That kind of media is a thing of the past. You are getting really antiquated.

Politicians! These clowns have no power in the Western economic system. The money people decide.
Oliver Cromwell

Glasgow, UK

#44 Jul 17, 2012
Most of these Western so called Journalists have given up any pretence of being a journalist a long time ago,they are just the propaganda arm of the US Reich,they are a disgrace.

Since: Jul 11

Berlin, Germany

#45 Jul 17, 2012
Chris wrote:
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Here you are outperforming even yourself in stupidity. Any dude can buy a printing press and compose and distribute some news. And he can write anything. Who cares? His audience are a handful, and insignificant.
Well it was you who suggested that the press people have all the power not me.
But Media mogul like Murdoch reaches millions and his power of persuasion is enormous.
Have you ever read anything in any of his media? I thought not otherwise you’d know that anything in Murdoch’s news reports is not taken seriously by anybody. It’s classed as entertainment on the same level as the stuff Hollywood churns out.
Sure he is not going to allow his media outlets to criticize NATO, because NATO works for him. NATO is bombing countries into Regime Change, in order to broaden the opportunities for people like Murdoch, to invest and make profits: to acquire new resources, markets, and cheap labour.
Cheap labour for a media company? That’s got to be a joke. You do know that it’s impossible for the media to outsource work to cheap labour countries? It just doesn’t work because of the nature of journalism.
Sure, such multibillionaire Media mogul will keep on his payroll the journalists, who write in line with his and his group interests. And his journalists will write what is expected from them, to keep the food on the table.
That’s the rules in every country not just in the West. Journalists everywhere have to toe the political line of whomever they are writing for.
The State owned media is controlled by the letter of the Law.
Sure. If the law forbids criticizing the government then the state run media won’t either. If there is a protest against the government let’s say for higher wages this will also not be reported on. If the government’s economic policies suck and the economy starts to tank then you certainly won’t read about it in the news. And if a member of the regime is caught with his hands in the till or maybe he had his wife bumped of so that he can screw his girlfriend without a bad conscience you can bet this won’t be reported on by any state news paper either. You can bet that a private independent press would though!
Privately owned media is controlled by the need to survive; actually more potent control.
Their need to survive makes sure that they report truthfully. The public hates being lied to and the media companies know it and fear its wrath if found to not be absolutely truthful in their reports. In fact Media companies compete on the basis that they serve the most up to date and unbiased news.
That kind of media is a thing of the past. You are getting really antiquated.
Oh yeah? How do you explain then why in the last few years have so many US politicians been named and shamed by the press for their little “infidelities”? How come then it was reported in the press that the British defence minister liked to take along his buddy to secret international NATO meetings? How come it was reported in the German press that many German politicians who had otherwise never shown any interest in sports just decided that they need to be in London on political business at the expense of the German tax payer exactly at the same time of the games? I could go on and on, the news is just full of it, in fact Western journalism lives of such stories. After what time do you hold something to be antiquated? After a week maybe?
Politicians! These clowns have no power in the Western economic system. The money people decide.
The only sentence from you in the past months that is rational. I agree with you here completely. So do something about it, actively, like joining the occupy movement maybe.

Since: Jul 11

Berlin, Germany

#46 Jul 17, 2012
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
Most of these Western so called Journalists have given up any pretence of being a journalist a long time ago,they are just the propaganda arm of the US Reich,they are a disgrace.
Show me an example where they compromised themselves if you are so sure.
Oliver Cromwell

Glasgow, UK

#47 Jul 17, 2012
When have they ever questioned the Western narrative re Iraq,Libya etc?Sky news BBC and the other Corporate media are part of the Problem,take Syria how many times have they quoted activists whoever they are,when the war in Libya was raging Sky news were just about embeded with those Rats,but the bastards never reported the savage crimes they commited or when they found people executed it was all gadaffis fault,Sky news and the BBC were bad enough i dread to think what crap fox news put out.by the way just been watching some news about fighting in Damascus showed some rebels i noiced they were using FN rifles and what looked like American M16s,as far as i know those weapons are not syrian army issue,wonder where they came from?
arthur

Australia

#48 Jul 17, 2012
Turkey.
reality is always best

Covington, VA

#49 Jul 17, 2012
Sigh...There are always people like this "ditto dog" on boards like this.These people are either paid or volunteer propagandist usually.They have an agenda to push and seldom stray from it.This person ditto dog is obviously a propagandist tasked with posting pro terrorist NTC comments in support of the puppet government in Libya known as the TNC.There are several others like this person all over these boards though most of them are pro israel pro american government propagandist.These people will lie,spin,defelect,use double speak and all sorts of other tactics to try and push their agenda.

Since: Jul 11

Berlin, Germany

#50 Jul 17, 2012
reality is always best wrote:
Sigh...There are always people like this "ditto dog" on boards like this.These people are either paid or volunteer propagandist usually.They have an agenda to push and seldom stray from it.This person ditto dog is obviously a propagandist tasked with posting pro terrorist NTC comments in support of the puppet government in Libya known as the TNC.There are several others like this person all over these boards though most of them are pro israel pro american government propagandist.These people will lie,spin,defelect,use double speak and all sorts of other tactics to try and push their agenda.
LOL! I was expecting this reaction and didn't have to wait long for it. Typical troll behaviour of course. Poke him and he'll try to bite you. Nasty little specimen this one here.

Since: Jul 11

Berlin, Germany

#51 Jul 17, 2012
arthur wrote:
Turkey.
Definitely.

There are also suspicions that the US is behind at least a trickle of weapons to the Free Syrian Army. Also Qatar and a few other Arab countries are supposed to be supplying weapons some of them rocket propelled stuff.

I don't know where this is all going to end but it looks like it's going to get far worse first. I actually agree with the Russians here, unbelievable but true, keep the UN out, these guys just want to kill each other no matter what, we can't do more than stand back, watch and help any refugees.
Oliver Cromwell

Glasgow, UK

#52 Jul 17, 2012
we can't do more than stand back, watch and help any refugees.

But you just said you were doing something with weapons for those terrorist Rats,throwing petrol on the fire,
reality is always best

Covington, VA

#53 Jul 17, 2012
Ditto Dog wrote:
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LOL! I was expecting this reaction and didn't have to wait long for it. Typical troll behaviour of course. Poke him and he'll try to bite you. Nasty little specimen this one here.
Do not hide behind silly words once you have been exposed for what you are.

Since: Jul 11

Berlin, Germany

#54 Jul 17, 2012
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
we can't do more than stand back, watch and help any refugees.
But you just said you were doing something with weapons for those terrorist Rats,throwing petrol on the fire,
I beg your pardon. I don't think I understand. Where did I say that?
reality is always best

Covington, VA

#55 Jul 17, 2012
Ditto Dog wrote:
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I beg your pardon. I don't think I understand. Where did I say that?
Clueless as usual I see.

Since: Jul 11

Berlin, Germany

#57 Jul 18, 2012
rider wrote:
<quoted text>Big Media's Curious Nixon Judgment
Dec 11, 2010 ...“The agent [Chennault] says she's just talked to the boss in New Mexico .... The
Education of Anna, Chennault had acknowledged that she was the courier....
people such as Ted Koppel, the host of ABC's influential “Nightline”...
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/121110.htm... - 39k -
The report just goes into old revelations from the time of the Watergate scandal and offers no new insights. Also, those tapes have been in the public domain for just as long and therefore have nothing new to offer.

The author’s speculations about Kissinger’s role in all this and his connotations about the US press are certainly without basis. There is absolutely no proof of Kissinger ever being personally involved in Nixon’s intrigues.

And the press certainly had no knowledge of these intrigues. The author himself accuses Nixon of expanding the Vietnam war in fear of the South Vietnamese President, Nguyen van Thieu, otherwise exposing him. That can only mean there was utmost secrecy. So to accuse the US press now of not reporting on it is simply absurd.

The fact still remains that it’s only thanks to the US press that a corrupt president was removed from office.
arthur

Mentone, Australia

#60 Jul 18, 2012
Ditto Dog wrote:
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Definitely.
There are also suspicions that the US is behind at least a trickle of weapons to the Free Syrian Army. Also Qatar and a few other Arab countries are supposed to be supplying weapons some of them rocket propelled stuff.
I don't know where this is all going to end but it looks like it's going to get far worse first. I actually agree with the Russians here, unbelievable but true, keep the UN out, these guys just want to kill each other no matter what, we can't do more than stand back, watch and help any refugees.
A trickle!lol.
Chris

Toronto, Canada

#61 Jul 18, 2012
Ditto Dog wrote:
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Well it was you who suggested that the press people have all the power not me.
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No! I suggested that media moguls, who are at the same time multibillionaires, have the power.
Have you ever read anything in any of his media? I thought not otherwise you’d know that anything in Murdoch’s news reports is not taken seriously by anybody. It’s classed as entertainment on the same level as the stuff Hollywood churns out.
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Not True. His Fox News Channel is a major political opinion shaper in the U.S. It broadcasts all over the world, and calls itself the ‘news channel fair and balanced’. Actually it presents totally conservative pro-rich, anti-socialist propaganda.
Cheap labour for a media company? That’s got to be a joke. You do know that it’s impossible for the media to outsource work to cheap labour countries? It just doesn’t work because of the nature of journalism.
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You think that multibillionaires like Murdoch have all their investments in journalism? You must be joking now! They are smarter than that. These people sometimes have more money than many states; they do not putt all the eggs in the same basket. They have a diversified portfolio, and invest in whatever promises a good profit.
That’s the rules in every country not just in the West. Journalists everywhere have to toe the political line of whomever they are writing for.
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Interestingly! But you on the West keep claiming that you have a free press.
Sure. If the law forbids criticizing the government then the state run media won’t either. If there is a protest against the government let’s say for higher wages this will also not be reported on. If the government’s economic policies suck and the economy starts to tank then you certainly won’t read about it in the news. And if a member of the regime is caught with his hands in the till or maybe he had his wife bumped of so that he can screw his girlfriend without a bad conscience you can bet this won’t be reported on by any state news paper either. You can bet that a private independent press would though!
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But that is the point. Private press is independent of State, but not of its owners’ influence. Therefore it will report on state officials, but not on the issues, which would hurt the class of people to which the owners belong; and that is surely very rich class. For example, media in the West did not report that Koch brothers, owners of Coke Multinational, financed the Tea Party Movement in the U.S, but was representing the movement as a spontaneous popular movement. One had to find that information in alternative sources. Also, main stream media practically ignores Occupy movement, because it is the one the rich people wish it did not exist.
Their need to survive makes sure that they report truthfully. The public hates being lied to and the media companies know it and fear its wrath if found to not be absolutely truthful in their reports. In fact Media companies compete on the basis that they serve the most up to date and unbiased news.
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Really? How does the public know that it is lied to? The media gives news to the public, therefore for public the truth is what they are told it is. The media is opinion shaper, not the truth deliverer. And, yes it is changing with the internet. People turn to alternative source, but that doesn’t mean that main stream media will start delivering the truth. They can’t, they would undermine their owners’ interests; therefore they would cut the hand that feeds them. Rather the policy would be to search for a variety of gimmicks to keep the audience. And, if the individual journalist steps out of line he would get fired; so much for the survival.
reality is always best

Covington, VA

#63 Jul 18, 2012
Ditto Dog wrote:
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The report just goes into old revelations from the time of the Watergate scandal and offers no new insights. Also, those tapes have been in the public domain for just as long and therefore have nothing new to offer.
The author’s speculations about Kissinger’s role in all this and his connotations about the US press are certainly without basis. There is absolutely no proof of Kissinger ever being personally involved in Nixon’s intrigues.
And the press certainly had no knowledge of these intrigues. The author himself accuses Nixon of expanding the Vietnam war in fear of the South Vietnamese President, Nguyen van Thieu, otherwise exposing him. That can only mean there was utmost secrecy. So to accuse the US press now of not reporting on it is simply absurd.
The fact still remains that it’s only thanks to the US press that a corrupt president was removed from office.
Every american puppet president since the warmonger FDR has been corrupt and only a puppet of jews and other war profiteers.

Since: Jul 11

Berlin, Germany

#64 Jul 18, 2012
Chris wrote:
Not True. His Fox News Channel is a major political opinion shaper in the U.S. It broadcasts all over the world, and calls itself the ‘news channel fair and balanced’. Actually it presents totally conservative pro-rich, anti-socialist propaganda.
And have you ever seen a poll confirming this? It’s a well known fact that Murdoch earns his money on BS journalism. That’s not exactly the hallmark of an “opinion shaper”.
You think that multibillionaires like Murdoch have all their investments in journalism? You must be joking now! They are smarter than that. These people sometimes have more money than many states; they do not putt all the eggs in the same basket. They have a diversified portfolio, and invest in whatever promises a good profit.
And your point? It’s his perfect right to invest his money as he wants. Or does anyone tell you how to spend your money?
Interestingly! But you on the West keep claiming that you have a free press.
Sure. In the West you’re allowed to publish anything you want as long as you keep to the truth. Or are you denying that?

But that is the point. Private press is independent of State, but not of its owners’ influence. Therefore it will report on state officials, but not on the issues, which would hurt the class of people to which the owners belong; and that is surely very rich class.
You’re joking of course. Or maybe you just don’t read the news. The papers are always full of scandals about rich people, that’s what sells best. And if the press can get there hands on some politician’s dirty laundry so much the better.
For example, media in the West did not report that Koch brothers, owners of Coke Multinational, financed the Tea Party Movement in the U.S, but was representing the movement as a spontaneous popular movement. One had to find that information in alternative sources.
Come on! These guys didn’t exactly fax the press a copy of the bank transfer now did they? Otherwise it'd not look spontaneous. The information was buried among long lists of other donations and I dare say they made sure it was buried particularly deep so that any nosy journalist needed time to find it.
Also, main stream media practically ignores Occupy movement, because it is the one the rich people wish it did not exist.
I beg to differ. Main stream media is full of it. But of course you don’t read the news.
Really? How does the public know that it is lied to? The media gives news to the public, therefore for public the truth is what they are told it is. The media is opinion shaper, not the truth deliverer.
Of course if you only read one source of news you won’t know if it’s all BS or not. But the media is made up of a whole lot of competing outlets. For instance it would look really stupid if one television studio gives one piece of news, another says the opposite, the papers are telling an entirely different story and Reuters is reporting on their website that it’s all not true. There is simply no way for the Western press getting away lying to its readers. At least not for long. You can read up more on the ethics of journalism here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism_ethic...
And, yes it is changing with the internet. People turn to alternative source, but that doesn’t mean that main stream media will start delivering the truth. They can’t, they would undermine their owners’ interests; therefore they would cut the hand that feeds them. Rather the policy would be to search for a variety of gimmicks to keep the audience. And, if the individual journalist steps out of line he would get fired; so much for the survival.
As long as I have a big enough choice to compare news reports I’m quite comfortable. Alternative sources are also welcome, I even read the extremely bias Russian and Chinese press just to keep my impressions balanced.

Since: Jul 11

Berlin, Germany

#69 Jul 19, 2012
rider wrote:
This is Alan and I’d like to talk a little bit about the secret societies which have become a fad, this whole topic, this “conspiracy theory” which is pushed out there by the top to make it almost like a sideline hobby, which discredits the truth because history is in fact full of one conspiracy after another done by one or other groups all down through the ages.
Oliver Stone shows you in the movie JFK the group that killed the President and it’s when they meet in the park by the Washington Memorial and when they ask,“who could have had the power to do all of this,” and it pans back and the two men become minute dots on a little park bench, and from the top to the bottom of the screen on the right-hand side you see the whole monument, the symbol, the obelisk of the real secret society above all the little freemasonic institutions, the outer portico at the bottom. The real boys. The real boys that are the establishment you see. That’s who killed him.
This will be followed by a speech given by JFK at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York on April 27, 1961. He gave this speech to the National News Publishers Association. It lasts about 19 minutes or so, this audio clip which will be played, and in the speech you’ll hear JFK talk about the need to have no secret societies in government because he was well aware that that’s what you have. You’ve always had it. They’re still here today and that speech was the one that sealed his fate. That was the real reason – the REAL REASON THAT HE WAS KILLED PUBLICLY. Publicly executed with “craftiness,” as the High Masons say. It was done craftily, out in the open, as he drove into the sun and his head was laid bare.
So here’s a clip from Oliver Stone first of all.
“It’s a real question isn’t it? Why. The how and the who is just scenery for the public. Oswald, Ruby, Cuba, the Mafia, keeps them guessing like some kind of parlor game, prevents them from asking the most important question, Why? Why was Kennedy killed? Who benefited? Who has the power to cover it up? Who?”
Alan: So there you are. There’s the actual tongue-in-cheek proof in front of your face, you see, what you do get in movies, shown to you right in the open and people cannot come to a conclusion unless it’s told to them basically, as Mr. Brzezinski said. So following right now is the actual speech by JFK April 27, 1961 to the National News Publishers Association in the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York, where he sealed his fate by being the first president really to come out publicly and talk about the need to get rid of secret societies, not only in government, but right through the whole society which rules us basically.
The speech that got JFK killed - YouTube
Sep 5, 2008 ... Hear the people we are supposed to trust talk about the NWO. This one is for
Dwight Dugas! Check out rebelsagainstglobalenslavement.com ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =GR5m1-5ksj0XX - 163k -
An excellent post even though I'm not entirely convinced of your reasoning. But you are right, everything about JFK's assassination does smell of something bigger than just one guy with a grudge. Be careful, maybe you have now also sealed your fate with this post. Ooops! Maybe I have as well! If I'm not posting anything this time tomorrow you'll know what's happened. I'd like roses placed on my coffin.

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