Asylum seeker laws pass lower house

Asylum seeker laws pass lower house

There are 33 comments on the Yahoo! story from Jun 27, 2012, titled Asylum seeker laws pass lower house. In it, Yahoo! reports that:

Prime Minister Julia Gillard has warned the Senate it would an act of destruction not to pass laws removing the legal uncertainty over offshore processing of asylum seekers.

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Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#1 Jun 27, 2012
We have signed and agreed to abide by the laws of the refugee convention, it is Gillard and her government trying to deal with countries(Malaysia) that have not signed this convention. It is ridiculous of Gillard to keep pursuing processing in overseas countries that don't have these protections in place,because not only do the Liberals and Greens oppose it and it could well violate refugee laws by sending them to a country that is not ratified....

(Australia is bound by law to protect refugees on their territory, with the 1951 convention noting, in what is considered a defining point in Article 33, that “no contracting State shall expel or return (refouler) a refugee in any manner whatsoever to the frontiers of territories where his (or her) life or freedom would be threatened”.)

Gillard is flouting this and wasting everyone's time and money. It would be more expedient and less costly to bring them here and process them here....the aim should be to improve how we process them and the length of time it takes......
True Israelite

Airds, Australia

#2 Jun 27, 2012
The laws of the refugee convention are produced by the UN which is a non-governmental organisation.
It has no power over us.

The UN is a creation of the English Banking Elite and is therefore the enemy of all White people everywhere.

The UN should be bombed with every elitist dog inside it.

DEATH to the U.N.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#3 Jun 27, 2012
True Israelite wrote:
The laws of the refugee convention are produced by the UN which is a non-governmental organisation.
It has no power over us.
The UN is a creation of the English Banking Elite and is therefore the enemy of all White people everywhere.
The UN should be bombed with every elitist dog inside it.
DEATH to the U.N.
I might generally agree with you but in this case when you as a government agree to something and sign it, you should honour that agreement, or withdraw from it.
The greater risk to us here is watching Gillard pay the Indonesians to stop the boats and the Indonesian officials bribed by the people smugglers to keep the boats coming....Stop paying money to countries that are cutting our throats would be a better option and then take over the completed management of the refugees here where we are in control and with all the money we save by paying the scum that are backstabbing us, we can put that into employing more people to process the refugees for a faster turn around..
funnyD exposed and Fixed

San Antonio, TX

#4 Jun 27, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
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I might generally agree with you but in this case when you as a government agree to something and sign it, you should honour that agreement, or withdraw from it.
The greater risk to us here is watching Gillard pay the Indonesians to stop the boats and the Indonesian officials bribed by the people smugglers to keep the boats coming....Stop paying money to countries that are cutting our throats would be a better option and then take over the completed management of the refugees here where we are in control and with all the money we save by paying the scum that are backstabbing us, we can put that into employing more people to process the refugees for a faster turn around..
Fun4Me scum, stop playing - cut your throats.

you are an absolute pathetic loser with a paranoid schizo personality.
STOP YOUR ANTI-CREOLE CAMPAIGN. BE A MAN AND STOP HIDING BEHIND YOUR COMPUTER.

ooooooouuuu saute au plafond ala main gauche, ala main droite....dance, dance, dance...sing, sing, sing.......péteux, péteux, péteux, péteux.
Intellect

Sydney, Australia

#5 Jun 27, 2012
Werid move.
Green voter

Adelaide, Australia

#6 Jun 27, 2012
Offshore processing is dead unless Abbott agrees to change the laws used by the High Court to kill it.

Abbott said yesterday he wants to bring in more immigrants and earlier this year he stated that he would have our children learn their languages in school. Good on him!

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#7 Jun 27, 2012
Green voter wrote:
Offshore processing is dead unless Abbott agrees to change the laws used by the High Court to kill it.
Abbott said yesterday he wants to bring in more immigrants and earlier this year he stated that he would have our children learn their languages in school. Good on him!
The Greens would love him then?
funnyD exposed and Fixed

San Antonio, TX

#8 Jun 27, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
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The Greens would love him then?
Who loves you dégueulasse clair comme dans le cul d'un negre salopard trou du cul enfoiré ooooooouuuu saute au plafond ala main gauche, ala main droite....dance, dance, dance...sing, sing, sing.......péteux, péteux, péteux, péteux?
Green voter

Adelaide, Australia

#9 Jun 27, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
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The Greens would love him then?
On this issue of course! The Coalition have forced the adoption of Greens immigration policy in Australia!
ralph

Balgowlah, Australia

#10 Jun 27, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
We have signed and agreed to abide by the laws of the refugee convention, it is Gillard and her government trying to deal with countries(Malaysia) that have not signed this convention. It is ridiculous of Gillard to keep pursuing processing in overseas countries that don't have these protections in place,because not only do the Liberals and Greens oppose it and it could well violate refugee laws by sending them to a country that is not ratified....
(Australia is bound by law to protect refugees on their territory, with the 1951 convention noting, in what is considered a defining point in Article 33, that “no contracting State shall expel or return (refouler) a refugee in any manner whatsoever to the frontiers of territories where his (or her) life or freedom would be threatened”.)
Gillard is flouting this and wasting everyone's time and money. It would be more expedient and less costly to bring them here and process them here....the aim should be to improve how we process them and the length of time it takes......
seeing as though most of these boat people are found in indonesian rescue zone, why are we rescuing them in the 1st place? give indo xmas island i say, stoop the boats by giving them a lousy option when they get here. they pay 10 grand to get here...that is not hard up.
Intellect

Sydney, Australia

#11 Jun 27, 2012
ralph wrote:
<quoted text> seeing as though most of these boat people are found in indonesian rescue zone, why are we rescuing them in the 1st place? give indo xmas island i say, stoop the boats by giving them a lousy option when they get here. they pay 10 grand to get here...that is not hard up.
I dont think these refugees are forking out the money. The smugglers are getting paid by other people who make business in smuggling people to other countries. Remember refugees are escaping theyre not paying for a holiday cruise.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#12 Jun 27, 2012
ralph wrote:
<quoted text> seeing as though most of these boat people are found in indonesian rescue zone, why are we rescuing them in the 1st place? give indo xmas island i say, stoop the boats by giving them a lousy option when they get here. they pay 10 grand to get here...that is not hard up.
Well I don't know why we are the ones rushing to help those outside of our waters either except the fact that it was our plane that spotted them and sent a message to Indonesia and Indonesia either didn't have the expertise or the want to aid them sooner so we rushed in.....but I still don't know the true reason as to why we have done that, it doesn't make logical sense? But if we stop paying the billions of dollars to these countries and the Uncf whatever and we processed these people ourselves it would put us in control and save us a bundle and free us from the corruption of the other countries pretending to assist us in our want to stop the boats....

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#13 Jun 27, 2012
Green voter wrote:
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On this issue of course! The Coalition have forced the adoption of Greens immigration policy in Australia!
The coalition has not forced the Greens to do anything nor have the Liberals adopted anything from the Greens because the Greens want NO offshore processing the Liberals will settle for all countries that are involved in the refugee convention.....big difference there...The truth is the Greens will never agree with labor on the offshore process and the liberals will not agree with anyone outside the refugee convention, so they will both vote against Julia for different but logical reasons...

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#14 Jun 27, 2012
Green voter wrote:
Offshore processing is dead unless Abbott agrees to change the laws used by the High Court to kill it.
Abbott said yesterday he wants to bring in more immigrants and earlier this year he stated that he would have our children learn their languages in school. Good on him!
The Greens want to lift the amount of refugees that are being bottlenecked in Indonesia and forcing people to take drastic measures that are costing lives by coming by boats in less than ideal conditions....So they believe and so do the liberals that the best way around this is to accept more refugees and process them to stop the desperation of their want to get here and pass detention in Indonesia....simple as that.....I haven't heard the language one yet so I can't comment on that one..
Green voter

Adelaide, Australia

#15 Jun 27, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
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The coalition has not forced the Greens to do anything nor have the Liberals adopted anything from the Greens because the Greens want NO offshore processing the Liberals will settle for all countries that are involved in the refugee convention.....big difference there...The truth is the Greens will never agree with labor on the offshore process and the liberals will not agree with anyone outside the refugee convention, so they will both vote against Julia for different but logical reasons...
Iran is a signatory to the refugee convention. The Liberals deported some Asylum Seekers there when Howard was PM.
They were executed.
You must be proud.
Green voter

Adelaide, Australia

#16 Jun 27, 2012
Abbott demanding that countries be signatory to the refugee convention is the most bald faced piece of grubby hypocrisy anyone is ever likely to witness.

Nauru was not a signatory when it was used by the Liberals for a detention centre. Places like Iran and Zimbabwe ARE signatories. Just breathtaking and I'm surprised any intelligent person would be taken in by this.

But as I say, Abbott has played in to the Greens hands magnificently and we currently have the Greens immigration policy in place in Australia.
True Israelite

Airds, Australia

#17 Jun 27, 2012
Green voter wrote:
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Iran is a signatory to the refugee convention. The Liberals deported some Asylum Seekers there when Howard was PM.
They were executed.
You must be proud.
If they were executed its not our problem. What non-whites do to each other in their own countries is not our problem.

The refugee convention does not have to be followed by the Australian people as the U.N. is a non-governmental organisation and is a front group of the English Banking elite in the Royal Institute of International Affairs.

So stuff the U.N. and its supporters.

Refugee intake is nothing but another channel by which the treacherous commie Australian Labour government bring in more non-whites for the purpose of the mass scale non-white invasion of Australia. Immigration is of course another channel.

Because you are a greens voter you are therefore a traitor. You are cultural-marxist filth that needs to be eradicated from Australia once and for all. So fuck off and get the fuck out of my country you stinking parasite.
Green voter

Adelaide, Australia

#18 Jun 27, 2012
Here is some info from the UNHCR regarding the deal between Australia and Malaysia. This highlights very well the hypocrisy of counting out Malaysia based on the UNHCR. The case is certainly there to support the Malaysia deal. I'm very relieved the Liberals are with the Greens on this.

http://unhcr.org.au/unhcr/index.php...

UNHCR Statement: Australia-Malaysia MoU

5 June 2011: UNHCR remains actively engaged and involved in ongoing discussions with Australia and Malaysia on the proposed Memorandum of understanding (MoU) between those two countries.

UNHCR’s recent discussions on this issue relate to a specific and now superseded draft of the proposed MoU, details of which were released on Australian television last Thursday night.

Negotiations and discussions on the MoU have progressed significantly since then.

UNHCR continues to expect that appropriate refugee and human rights protections will be incorporated to any finalized agreement.

In particular, UNHCR insists that special consideration and appropriate protection arrangements will be put in place for vulnerable groups including unaccompanied minors.

UNHCR has noted and welcomed Minister Bowen’s statement yesterday that decisions on unaccompanied minors would be made ‘on a case by case basis’.

These are extremely important protection principles for UNHCR, which we continue to discuss with both governments.
True Israelite

Airds, Australia

#19 Jun 27, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
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I might generally agree with you but in this case when you as a government agree to something and sign it, you should honour that agreement, or withdraw from it.
The greater risk to us here is watching Gillard pay the Indonesians to stop the boats and the Indonesian officials bribed by the people smugglers to keep the boats coming....Stop paying money to countries that are cutting our throats would be a better option and then take over the completed management of the refugees here where we are in control and with all the money we save by paying the scum that are backstabbing us, we can put that into employing more people to process the refugees for a faster turn around..
The Australian people didnt agree to anything. The traitor politicians signed it and the media didnt let the people know about it as they always do when it comes to election time.

Why is the topic of signing UN treaties NEVER bought up during election time?? Because they dont want us to know because they know we wouldnt agree to a foreign entity telling us what to do, and what you see happening now is the very reason why the Australian people would have said no.

Its just like multiculturalism; we were never given a vote on the matter, there was no referrendum.

In other words the traitors side-stepped democracy and went behind the backs of the people and therefore UN treaties are NOT legal.
Green voter

Adelaide, Australia

#20 Jun 27, 2012
True Israelite, you come across as a real lightweight.
A tryhard, but a lightweight.

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