Australian PM says she favors vote on...

Australian PM says she favors vote on gay marriage

There are 35 comments on the Bellingham Herald story from Nov 14, 2011, titled Australian PM says she favors vote on gay marriage. In it, Bellingham Herald reports that:

In an opinion piece published Tuesday in the Sydney Morning Herald and other Australian newspapers, Gillard said lawmakers "should be free to vote in Parliament according to their own values and beliefs." However, Gillard quickly came under attack from same-sex marriage advocates, who claimed the prime minister was endorsing a vote she knew was ... (more)

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Ross Darwin Australia

South Perth, Australia

#1 Nov 14, 2011
Stupid bloody Juliar, why have gay marriage. She is not married and does not believe in it.
Same as she does not believe in God, Church, and telling the truth. Her and Tim are having a great time at our expence.
troll that never sleeps

Australia

#2 Nov 14, 2011
Because she is a useless fuckwit! Gay marriage.. wtf cares what poofs and lesos want to do with their wankfest exhistances? Julia may finally get married after all. Stupid cummnist dyke ©unt!

“Lock up your cat ....”

Since: Oct 08

...or I'll kill it.

#3 Nov 14, 2011
Ross Darwin Australia wrote:
Stupid bloody Juliar, why have gay marriage. She is not married and does not believe in it.
Same as she does not believe in God, Church, and telling the truth. Her and Tim are having a great time at our expence.
"although she personally opposes changing the law."
Try reading the article before pretending to have a valid opinion...

“Lock up your cat ....”

Since: Oct 08

...or I'll kill it.

#4 Nov 14, 2011
troll that never sleeps wrote:
Because she is a useless fuckwit! Gay marriage.. wtf cares what poofs and lesos want to do with their wankfest exhistances? Julia may finally get married after all. Stupid cummnist dyke ©unt!
Exactly - who cares ? If they want to get married let them.

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Since: Jan 11

Dianella, Australia

#5 Nov 14, 2011
"Gillard said lawmakers "should be free to vote in Parliament according to their own values and beliefs."

**according to THEIR OWN values and beliefs**

That is precisely what I have always objected to in "Conscience votes".

It is a process that does not deserve to be dignified by such a deceitfully noble-sounding name.

"Conscience vote"??? WHOSE conscience?

Answer: those few in power over the rest of us many.

What makes them each think that their conscience is somehow better than yours or mine? In fact their behavior in office too often points to the very opposite!

They forget that we elect them to represent US, not them. That includes representing OUR *conscience*, not theirs.

When it comes to decisions impacting upon community values that shape our way of life and culture then it seems only right that the widest possible community consultation should direct those decisions.

We are supposed to be living in a Democracy.

It doesn't matter whether the issue is Gay Marriage or anything else, shouldn't the People be governed by the People? Aren't politicians there to facilitate and service that process ... not replace it with themselves?

mmm

Brisbane, Australia

#6 Nov 14, 2011
This isn't anything new- she's been in favour of Gay Marriage for a long time.

I think marriage should be separated from the state and that people should be able to marry any consenting adult that they want to.

“Lock up your cat ....”

Since: Oct 08

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#7 Nov 14, 2011
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
"Gillard said lawmakers "should be free to vote in Parliament according to their own values and beliefs."
**according to THEIR OWN values and beliefs**
That is precisely what I have always objected to in "Conscience votes".
It is a process that does not deserve to be dignified by such a deceitfully noble-sounding name.
"Conscience vote"??? WHOSE conscience?
Answer: those few in power over the rest of us many.
What makes them each think that their conscience is somehow better than yours or mine? In fact their behavior in office too often points to the very opposite!
They forget that we elect them to represent US, not them. That includes representing OUR *conscience*, not theirs.
When it comes to decisions impacting upon community values that shape our way of life and culture then it seems only right that the widest possible community consultation should direct those decisions.
We are supposed to be living in a Democracy.
It doesn't matter whether the issue is Gay Marriage or anything else, shouldn't the People be governed by the People? Aren't politicians there to facilitate and service that process ... not replace it with themselves?
Are you suggesting a referendum on every issue ?

“Lock up your cat ....”

Since: Oct 08

...or I'll kill it.

#8 Nov 14, 2011
mmm wrote:
This isn't anything new- she's been in favour of Gay Marriage for a long time.
I think marriage should be separated from the state and that people should be able to marry any consenting adult that they want to.
When has Gillard EVER said she is in favour of gay marriage ?
TBA

Erskineville, Australia

#9 Nov 14, 2011
It is my right to marry another man.

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Since: Jan 11

Woodlands, Australia

#10 Nov 14, 2011
TBA wrote:
It is my right to marry another man.
HehHeh!! No problem there!

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Since: Jan 11

Woodlands, Australia

#11 Nov 14, 2011
noteatpig2getha wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you suggesting a referendum on every issue ?
When it comes to decisions impacting upon community values that shape our way of life and culture then it seems only right that the widest possible community consultation should direct those decisions.

“Lock up your cat ....”

Since: Oct 08

...or I'll kill it.

#12 Nov 14, 2011
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
<quoted text>
When it comes to decisions impacting upon community values that shape our way of life and culture then it seems only right that the widest possible community consultation should direct those decisions.
Then I guess it will be up to politicians to decide whether a new bill "impacts upon community values that shape our way of life" .
Bibek

Australia

#13 Nov 15, 2011
This is another subtle trick to take away ppl view on Carbon Tax. Gay men n women can do their acts behind the state, why on earth giving them legalisation, isn't marriage is just between a man n woman, if not than swinging n group-sex couple will also in turn will their marriages done- isn't that a chaos all together.
Bibek

Australia

#14 Nov 15, 2011
Hare Krishna Hare Rama, plz come back to temple and pray to your Lord...

www.wahiduddin.net

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#15 Nov 15, 2011
Gillard is a tool.
Bibek

Australia

#16 Nov 15, 2011
Even the Christians, Jews n Muslims believe that the end of the world is not far away by acting thus, there is no more balance in anything as if we all are frustraded ...know not how far we can go or not.. demo-crazy doesn't mean that you can do that from behind...

http://www.december212012.com/
Bibek

Australia

#17 Nov 15, 2011
Long Live the Queen n her marriage but this is too far....

“Rumoured asylum escapee”

Since: Jan 10

Queensland, Australia

#18 Nov 15, 2011
The ADELAIDEAN wrote:
What makes them each think that their conscience is somehow better than yours or mine? In fact their behavior in office too often points to the very opposite!
They forget that we elect them to represent US, not them. That includes representing OUR *conscience*, not theirs.
You don't believe that they're in parliament to represent us do you?
Come on. They aren't there to represent us. You vote Liberals to business (particularly multinationals); Labor for Union thugs (and criminals - see Underbelly); and you vote Green for a One World Communist order.

Sorry, don't see too much Aussie citizen representation there.

“REFUSE ALL IMITATIONS!!”

Since: Jan 11

Woodlands, Australia

#19 Nov 15, 2011
Australian Warlord wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't believe that they're in parliament to represent us do you?
Come on. They aren't there to represent us. You vote Liberals to business (particularly multinationals); Labor for Union thugs (and criminals - see Underbelly); and you vote Green for a One World Communist order.
Sorry, don't see too much Aussie citizen representation there.
I agree with you. My purpose in posting was to draw attention to what a moral sham a so-called "conscience vote" in Parliament really is. I suspect that its name gives it an undeserved veneer of respectability that a lot of folk don't really pause to examine as closely as they might. If they did, most would probably realize that it is nothing less than an abuse of power and (dare we say it?) trust.
Politics

Brisbane, Australia

#20 Nov 15, 2011
Australian Warlord wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't believe that they're in parliament to represent us do you?
Come on. They aren't there to represent us. You vote Liberals to business (particularly multinationals); Labor for Union thugs (and criminals - see Underbelly); and you vote Green for a One World Communist order.
Sorry, don't see too much Aussie citizen representation there.
I thought it was like this:

Liberals = Money
Labor = Families
Greens = Environment

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