Erdogan slams Russia, China, Iran over Syria

Sep 27, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Jerusalem Post

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan lashed out at Russia, China and Iran on Thursday, saying their stance on the crisis in neighboring Syria was allowing a massacre to go on unabated.

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yes, leave it to china to choose the bad guys, China's choice of best friends says it all---Pakistan and North Korea
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Freedom has always been the freedom of the fortunate to exploit the less fortunate, the right to life is always in disputed, the law provides us a civilized way to go about it. Of course it hasn't worked up till now but Britain says its just about to, they gave Palestine first to the idiot Hussein and then to the jew legal tender was a wink and a nudge then a stab in the back, at the same time they gave a big part of China to both China and japan China dug trenches Japan done nothing Japan got Manchuria. Mr.Erdogan is in a better position but even so is there enough money in the world to pay for Libyan disarmament and to feather the nest of the Egyptian new client, as well as all the new freedom fighters who want their feathers without standing in line, and the homosexuals for whose freedom there fighting they need their aid money in Africa too.
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And what are all the good old 'friends' of Turkey , e.g. Greece, Cyprus & Armenia doing???

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Erdogan supports terrorism in Lebannon, and Syria.

He also supports Turkish terrorism again Russia (in Chechnia) and China (in west China).
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Erdogan supports terrorism in Lebannon, and Syria.
He also supports Turkish terrorism again Russia (in Chechnia) and China (in west China).
If you classify a democratisation process and human rights as terrorism.....well you are absolutely right!!

Well it is easy to sit in democratic Canada and forget about the persecutions which Muslims or different ethnical groups have to endure in the countries you mentioned....

The only thing I do not understand.... what is that with Lebanon??? Here you are completely wrong.

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If you classify a democratisation process and human rights as terrorism.....well you are absolutely right!!
Well it is easy to sit in democratic Canada and forget about the persecutions which Muslims or different ethnical groups have to endure in the countries you mentioned....
The only thing I do not understand.... what is that with Lebanon??? Here you are completely wrong.
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Did you know that the Uighurs attacking Russia and west China belong to same group of Uighurs who fought USA and NATO in Afghanistan. When they were captured by NATO and jailed in Guantanamo Bay Prison, they were called terrorists by USA, but the same people under Miss Kabeer Ribiya / Uighur World Congress (Istanbul-based) were called freedom fighters when they attacked Moscow and west China.

Did you see the bloody evidence of killing of innocent civilians in Moscow and west China?

What is your logic?
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Which version of truth you love?
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When you say you love truth, how about the truth of genocide done by Turkey.

1 million Armenians got killed and Turkey refused to apologize. That's history.

How do they treat the Kurds now? Aren't the Kurds also trying to get more freedom, human rights and democratic treatment by the majority Turks - just want to live their life their own way.

But the west seems to be indifferent on Turkey's atrocities against the Kurds.

Such kind of truth is not reported that often in our media since the Kurds are smaller in number and political influence and perhaps regarded as more dispensible.

Thus, truth is not created equal!
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Fellow citizens of the world, we can't trust Muslims. They still castrate girls so that they won't enjoy sex. We'd be left with crappy porn if they took over the world.
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More unmitigated insanity I've never heard 2 cents more like No sense. Look at the Bio physico neurology of us,Allah did his best set the standard a lot to high for a good reason, but that's what were stuck with, the chosen to lead mustn't be like the rest, we get higher status in heaven, without the uncertainty of circumstances barring the ways, I don't think circumcision is common for women anymore but so what if it is hedonistic sensualism is the ticket to hell, check out the aids epidemic, tell me stupid one which recognized utilitarianist advocated pleasure specifically associated with the act of sexual union as you just did.
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Erdogan is right. Russia, China and Iran are the new axis of evil.
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well wrote:
Erdogan is right. Russia, China and Iran are the new axis of evil.
So you support terrorism.
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Turkey: a threat to the West?

By Lawrence Solomon, Financial Post, June 11, 2010

A radical regime in Turkey will be well positioned in future to defend the faith at home and — in the Imperial traditions of Islam — to defend the faith abroad as well

The Free Gaza Flotilla has succeeded brilliantly, not in ending Israel’s naval blockade but in elevating Turkey and its prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, to preeminence in the Middle East hierarchy.“Sultan Erdogan,” a reference to the potential reestablishment of the sultanate that existed under the Ottoman Empire, has often been heard in the last year, as Erdogan played his anti-Israeli, anti-Western cards. It will be heard a lot more in the years to come as Erdogan strives to make a nuclear and theocratic Turkey dominant in the region and beyond.

Erdogan’s grandstanding on Gaza — he sponsored the ship that defied Israel’s commandos and is now considering personally lead the next flotilla — follows a string of other spectacles that raised his stature in the honour-conscious Middle East. Earlier this year, he won high praise for wringing an apology from Israel for its ham-handed objections to the anti-Semitic programming on state-controlled television, leading to cheering throughout the region.“Israel understands only Turkish: the apology was on the same scale as the humiliation,” enthused the Lebanese newspaper, al-Akhbar. Stated the ’Al-Quds al-Arabi newspaper:“Erdogan treated Israel rudeness like it deserved — with power and determination.”

Last year Erdogan won kudos throughout the Arab world when, after a heated exchange over Gaza with Israel’s President, Shimon Peres, he stormed out of a gathering in Davos. A defiant, charismatic leader, he also wins kudos at home by attacking Armenians. In March, he threatened to deport 100,000 Armenian Christians while claiming that the West had the story of the Armenian genocide backwards.

“In 1915 and before that, it was the Armenian side that pursued a policy aimed at exterminating our people which led to hunger, misery and death,” he said in a speech that marked a Turkish military victory during World War I.“There is no genocide in our civilization.”

A few months earlier, in solidifying his support of Moslem causes, Erdogan discounted claims that hundreds of thousands of people in Darfur were victims of Sudan’s Islamic regime, similarly stating that “Muslims don’t commit genocide.” Genocides do occur against Moslems, however, he asserts, and not just by the Israelis and Armenians.“The killings of Uighur Turks by the Chinese police during demonstrations constitute genocide,” he said of the deaths of several dozen Turkic-speaking and Muslim Uighurs during unrest in China. Lest anyone thought he was speaking loosely, he added:“I use this term intentionally.”
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In 2008 while in Germany, Erdogan characterized its assimilation of the Turkish minority as a “crime against humanity.” In France, his message was similar:“never assimilate.” Erdogan, in fact, reliably supports Islamists everywhere, particularly where they are in conflict with non-Moslems. He voted against the West’s sanctions against Iran, supports Syria, another state the U.S. deems a sponsor of terrorism, and supports non-state Moslem terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Hezbollah. Turkey also acts to bind Moslem nations together economically — it fosters free trade among Moslem nations — and militarily, such as through an alliance with Iran and Syria.

Those who believe Erdogan doesn’t plan to undermine Turkey’s democratic republic in favour of an extremist Islamic state haven’t been paying attention. A lifelong fundamentalist affiliated with parties that continually ran afoul of the country’s strict secularism, Erdogan as Mayor of Istanbul called himself the imam of Istanbul and famously said:“Democracy is like a streetcar. When you come to your stop, you get off.”

Until recently, Turkey’s military, the upholder of its constitution, ousted governments that flirted with Islamism. Erdogan’s former party leader, for example, was forced to resign as Turkey’s first Islamist prime minister after launching a campaign for worldwide Moslem solidarity. To avoid this fate, Erdogan changed tack by forming a political party that promised to remain faithful to the constitutional requirement of the separation of church and state. Then, in a fluke outcome of Turkey’s electoral system of proportional representation, Erdogan won a staggering 363 seats out of 550 in its parliamentary election with but 34% of the vote, enough to give him a veto-proof majority. He then used that majority to systematically undermine Turkey’s secular underpinnings. Now, in his second term in office, Erdogan may be preparing to get off that streetcar.

Turkey’s military has been neutered, its judiciary compromised, its press chilled, its secret police empowered, its political prisons well populated. Sharia law — banned under the republic — is slowly making a comeback. Islamic women’s dress — from Erdogan’s wife on down — is becoming widespread. More women are covering up now than in previous centuries under the Ottomans, in fact, when the female ideal was feminine: Women were often bedecked in jewels and wore clothing that showed off their shape and sometimes included a décolletage. The Turkey of the future promises to be far more Islamic than the late Ottoman Turkey, where the sultans were often the modernizers, trying to coax their subjects into a new, European era.

The Turkey of the future also promises to be more of a threat to the West. This week, Turkey announced an energy agreement with Russia that will give it a nuclear plant. Ominously, Turkey is also becoming an energy nexus for a complex of oil and natural gas pipelines from Russia, Central Asia, and Iran to Europe and other parts of the Middle East. A radical regime in Turkey will be well positioned in future to defend the faith at home and — in the Imperial traditions of Islam — to defend the faith abroad as well.

Financial Post
Lawrence Solomon is executive director of Energy Probe and the author of The Deniers. LawrenceSolomon@nextcity.com
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<quoted text>Did you know that the Uighurs attacking Russia and west China belong to same group of Uighurs who fought USA and NATO in Afghanistan. When they were captured by NATO and jailed in Guantanamo Bay Prison, they were called terrorists by USA, but the same people under Miss Kabeer Ribiya / Uighur World Congress (Istanbul-based) were called freedom fighters when they attacked Moscow and west China.
Did you see the bloody evidence of killing of innocent civilians in Moscow and west China?
What is your logic?
May I ask you ... do you even know where the Uighurs live?

Do not confuse Uighurs with Chechens and Tajikis this is in reg. to Moscow ....
Yes, in Western China are Uighurs which are rebelling ...

But that the NATO forces were attacked by Uighurs??? Mate here again....you are 'forcing' it too much .... fact is that the Ozbek-Afghanis (Turkic) are the best supporters for the NATO forces in battle or other tasks ...(Just read the related US Military articles!)

The subject with Guantanomo Bay Detention Center ... well perhaps indeed there are/were some Uighur Jihadist jailed .... in all ethnical groups are idiots .... neither are the Turks from Turkey, Uighurs ... nor the Armenians except ....

Are not the Armenians hailing their revolt leaders as heroes .... well these are the same men who also ordered that Eastern Anatolia should be cleansed from every Turk and Muslim ... so they would be able to re-establish their Greater Armenia ... and they put this policy in application....

You are talking about the death of innocent people ... yes there is NO excuse for the death of innocent people !

But innocent people have always died and unfortunately will continue to die in all camps ... unfortunately ....

This is the TRUTH !

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When you say you love truth, how about the truth of genocide done by Turkey.
1 million Armenians got killed and Turkey refused to apologize. That's history.
How do they treat the Kurds now? Aren't the Kurds also trying to get more freedom, human rights and democratic treatment by the majority Turks - just want to live their life their own way.
But the west seems to be indifferent on Turkey's atrocities against the Kurds.
Such kind of truth is not reported that often in our media since the Kurds are smaller in number and political influence and perhaps regarded as more dispensible.
Thus, truth is not created equal!
When you talk about genocide .... you have to analyse the matter much deeper ... which obviously you are not interested in!

Fact is, that what ever today the Turks are accused of…..'genocide'..... it was neither the Turks who had started it nor who had the idea ....

The Turks fought for their personal and national survival !

It was the declared official policy of the Armenian Revolutionary Front to "get rid of all Turks and their Muslims allies, their arch enemies with all means" .... publicized in their Manifesto in Van 1905.... with the intention to gain independence and re-erect a Greater Armenia!

If you are an Armenian then you should read in your own history regarding your 'resistance movement' and its aims....

Regarding your allegations ref. to the Kurds ... Yes you are right there were discrimination in the past referring to the Kurdish language, but your statement shows me that you either never have been or at least you have not visited Turkey the last couple of years ....

Kurds have their own TV stations, printed Media outlets and even schools in their language ...you do not believe? Just google TV stations or schools in Turkey in Kurdish language ....

There is no discrimination being a Kurd .... the problem starts should you show support for the PKK ... which is World Wide regarded as a Terrorist organisation!

The Turks were always very tolerant, during the Seljuk -, Ottoman - as well as the modern Turkey periods ...

However indeed the situation changes significantly in the moment when somebody wants to brake down Turkey in multiple national entities ... carve itself a new country out of the existing Turkey ... in Turkey it is called 'Separatism'...

It is understandable ....keeping in mind these lands were neither donated to the Turks nor did they steel it from others (as Armenians and Greeks nowadays claim).... they fought for it ... they conquered it with their blood .... many Turkish soldiers died for these lands ...

Truth is 'created' equal .... but not history !

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In 2008 while in Germany, Erdogan characterized its assimilation of the Turkish minority as a “crime against humanity.” In France, his message was similar:“never assimilate.” Erdogan, in fact, reliably supports Islamists everywhere, particularly where they are in conflict with non-Moslems. He voted against the West’s sanctions against Iran, supports Syria, another state the U.S. deems a sponsor of terrorism, and supports non-state Moslem terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Hezbollah. Turkey also acts to bind Moslem nations together economically — it fosters free trade among Moslem nations — and militarily, such as through an alliance with Iran and Syria.
Those who believe Erdogan doesn’t plan to undermine Turkey’s democratic republic in favour of an extremist Islamic state haven’t been paying attention. A lifelong fundamentalist affiliated with parties that continually ran afoul of the country’s strict secularism, Erdogan as Mayor of Istanbul called himself the imam of Istanbul and famously said:“Democracy is like a streetcar. When you come to your stop, you get off.”
Until recently, Turkey’s military, the upholder of its constitution, ousted governments that flirted with Islamism. Erdogan’s former party leader, for example, was forced to resign as Turkey’s first Islamist prime minister after launching a campaign for worldwide Moslem solidarity. To avoid this fate, Erdogan changed tack by forming a political party that promised to remain faithful to the constitutional requirement of the separation of church and state. Then, in a fluke outcome of Turkey’s electoral system of proportional representation, Erdogan won a staggering 363 seats out of 550 in its parliamentary election with but 34% of the vote, enough to give him a veto-proof majority. He then used that majority to systematically undermine Turkey’s secular underpinnings. Now, in his second term in office, Erdogan may be preparing to get off that streetcar.
Turkey’s military has been neutered, its judiciary compromised, its press chilled, its secret police empowered, its political prisons well populated. Sharia law — banned under the republic — is slowly making a comeback. Islamic women’s dress — from Erdogan’s wife on down — is becoming widespread. More women are covering up now than in previous centuries under the Ottomans, in fact, when the female ideal was feminine: Women were often bedecked in jewels and wore clothing that showed off their shape and sometimes included a décolletage. The Turkey of the future promises to be far more Islamic than the late Ottoman Turkey, where the sultans were often the modernizers, trying to coax their subjects into a new, European era.
The Turkey of the future also promises to be more of a threat to the West. This week, Turkey announced an energy agreement with Russia that will give it a nuclear plant. Ominously, Turkey is also becoming an energy nexus for a complex of oil and natural gas pipelines from Russia, Central Asia, and Iran to Europe and other parts of the Middle East. A radical regime in Turkey will be well positioned in future to defend the faith at home and — in the Imperial traditions of Islam — to defend the faith abroad as well.
Financial Post
Lawrence Solomon is executive director of Energy Probe and the author of The Deniers. LawrenceSolomon@nextcity.com
There is a lot of bias BS in this article .....but especially regarding his conclusion I would have a single question to Mr Lawrence Solomon:

Who is to blame? Turkey or the Western countries with their hypocritical stands?

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Erdogan is a pervert zionist puppet..No one will take him serious for he farts laud..
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