France Debates The Veil

Apr 5, 2011 Full story: The Post Chronicle 85

Parisian lawmakers are debating secularism and Islam ahead of an April 11 ban on full Islamic veils, with opponents suggesting new laws are redundant ...

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“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#1 Apr 6, 2011
from The Post Chronicle:

"The ban goes into practice next Monday. A woman can't be arrested for wearing a veil and French police aren't authorized to remove it forcibly but violators face a fine of around $200.

"France last year was the target of threats from al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden."
ronan

Bristol, UK

#2 Apr 6, 2011
We are watching how the French police will tackle that!!

Probably that the first arrest under this law will trigger another riot!!
the examiner

Montréal, Canada

#3 Apr 6, 2011
the examiner

Montréal, Canada

#4 Apr 6, 2011
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/505-muslim-ve...

From the above link, I see that there are different kinds of veils.I don't know which ones of those are banned in France.

“The Defiant Dhimmi”

Since: Apr 08

Scholar of the Obvious

#5 Apr 6, 2011
the examiner wrote:
http://www.apologeticsindex.or g/505-muslim-veils-hijab-burqa
From the above link, I see that there are different kinds of veils.I don't know which ones of those are banned in France.
The law makes it illegal to hide your identity. Open face veils are not illegal.
yep

Santa Clara, CA

#6 Apr 6, 2011
There's nothing to debate. Ban the stupid veil. In Arab countries there are no debates allowed.
Alexander the Great

Keratsíni, Greece

#9 Apr 8, 2011
yep wrote:
There's nothing to debate. Ban the stupid veil. In Arab countries there are no debates allowed.
yep, this sounds like music to my ears. yep, most people think like us... just an ugly, really ugly minority doesn't
Foreigner

Finland

#10 Apr 8, 2011
ban burqa and veil, s'il vous plait, burqa n veil are against freedom and human rights.
they're symbol of oppression.
azar

Doha, Qatar

#11 Apr 11, 2011
by banning burka , france will not gain anything this is to irritate muslims that all!

France now given publicity to islamic veil!

every body now will try to understand what is this veil

finally the moral man by allahs will choose islam

Well come to islam !
azar

Doha, Qatar

#12 Apr 11, 2011
pope of vatican also critize this as if any body want wear veil voluntialy this will effect the humans right of a person to choose what he like to wear !

bunch of byprocrate no democracy in france !
ronan

Bath, UK

#13 Apr 11, 2011
azar wrote:
bunch of byprocrate no democracy in france !
But lots of freedom and democracy in the Middle East, yes?

Don't make us laugh.

In most of the Middle East countries, people have no freedom and women are forced to cover. Also, these countries don't respect other religions.

Put your house in order before criticising |France or the West!!
Alexander the Great

Keratsíni, Greece

#14 Apr 11, 2011
azar wrote:
by banning burka , france will not gain anything this is to irritate muslims that all!
France now given publicity to islamic veil!
every body now will try to understand what is this veil
finally the moral man by allahs will choose islam
Well come to islam !
SHUT UP MUSLIM, YOU STINK!!! I CAN SMELL YOU FROM HERE
DEATH TO ALLAH!!!!!!!!!!1
mohamed perv

Finland

#15 Apr 11, 2011
welllcum izlame?? wait wait,
let's here in EU start discovering and debating what profit mohammed the pedo the killer and cheater stands for,
let's also start debating what's the burqa and chador and other walking prisons.
angus longstaffe

UK

#16 Apr 11, 2011
but Azar, democracy is doing what the majority want and not doing what you want. i don't think you understand the concept.
ronan

Bath, UK

#17 Apr 11, 2011
angus longstaffe wrote:
but Azar, democracy is doing what the majority want and not doing what you want. i don't think you understand the concept.
Democracy isn't a Muslim concept; for them only obedience to the Koran is all important, but they can even agree on that!
Sentinel

Dartmouth, Canada

#18 Apr 11, 2011
Why not send these women back to a muslim country that makes them wear the veil?

Then we may be able to see what parts of French society they miss.
angus longstaffe

UK

#19 Apr 11, 2011
ronan wrote:
<quoted text>
Democracy isn't a Muslim concept; for them only obedience to the Koran is all important, but they can even agree on that!
yes very true ronan.

“We must take care of our own.”

Since: Jun 10

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#20 Apr 12, 2011
ronan wrote:
<quoted text>
Democracy isn't a Muslim concept; for them only obedience to the Koran is all important, but they can even agree on that!
So sad, but so true. I can't grasp the concept of entire countries destroying themselves over any religious belief. Then immigrating to other countries that have evolved over the centuries and creating complete havoc because these countries that they immigrate to do not see eye to eye with the Muslim belief that their religion is all powerful and all that matters in life. If this was the case, and their religion was such a good thing for the people that practice it, there would not be so much bloodshed in EVERY Islamic country over small infractions such as leaving the house without a mans permission or being the victim of a rape. I mean if I was a Christian, it still would make no since to me to KILL a person for saying something controversial about Jesus and 99.9999% of Christians, Jewish, Hindus or people of any other religion would agree that just speaking an opinion or drawing a picture of a religious figure is not a crime worthy of death, only Muslims seem to feel this way. Unfortunately the Muslim faith has proven itself to be very destructive ( just look at any Muslim based country to prove this)and some Muslims have chosen to use these body coverings as a way to conceal bombs with the intent to kill others. It is not the fault of the French people ( or any other country for that matter) that Muslims have chosen to do this. They have the right to protect their citizens and the safety of innocent people far outweighs some cultural or religious practice. Also these Muslims chose to immigrate to that country and it is not the responsibility of the French people to conform to Muslim ways. If the veil is seen by the majority of the French people as offensive to women, then it is their right as a collective people to not have to see it. Once again, these Muslims chose to come to France and the culture of the French people should come first. That is the price you pay to move to any country, it is your responsibility to conform to the culture there, you do not have to believe what they do, or pray to whomever they pray to, but you do have to fit in and contribute. Unfortunately the Muslim people seem to believe that no matter what country they immigrate to, they should be exempt from any laws if it it conflicts with Islam and that they deserve special treatment. Thats like as an American, I go to France and expect the French to stop having topless beaches because where I am from, this would be considered public indecency, I would need to conform to the fact that In French culture topless beaches are not seen the same way as they would be in America, topless beaches are not hurting anyone, and to the French people, they are no big deal so who am I to come to their country and expect them to change because I don't like it? Muslims need to start to realize that there are other people in the world, with other cultural and religious beliefs, and they can't continue to expect everyone else to change for them.
Jerzy

Keyport, NJ

#21 Apr 12, 2011
At least in France, you're allowed to debate the issue as in most Democratic countries. Can't debate squat in the Middle East.

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Since: Mar 11

Amman Jordan

#22 Apr 12, 2011
France is sick racist country. How come nuns not getting arrested? What about women who like to wear scarfs? Viva la France you stinking country and your cheese stink too!

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