Turkey mulls border defense options

Turkey mulls border defense options

There are 19 comments on the WKBT story from Nov 10, 2012, titled Turkey mulls border defense options. In it, WKBT reports that:

Turkey is drawing up contingency plans with the NATO military alliance to fortify its border with Syria, and a Patriot missile deployment is one option on the table, Turkish officials say.

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Dilip

Chennai, India

#1 Nov 11, 2012
Please do not destroy a country like Syria, whose people and gov are very much tolerant and Whers every religion Co exist. I don't see a single reason why any othercountry should be against Syria or it's gov. There are many African countries where only militias rule and people getting killed ,there are Arab countries where u can't practice any religion other than Islam. Same Arab countries we can't even raise your voice against their rulers . and surprisingly such Arab countries are against Syria. I really don't understand the logic. If some body is clean he can question others wrong doing. But in this situation those ,countries which are against Syria are them selves have one of the worst history of intolerance and non democracy. Saudi, only religion allowed Islam. any one who speaks against the king land up in jail. If u protest u will be detained. Bahrain , I don't have to say .see how they manage their Arab spring.so called US,EU,arab countries,UK are not bothered about atrocities and lawlessness in many African countries. But they are too much interested in Syria now.
So some body tell me what is going on in this world. World has deteriorated so much that every
One fall in to a religion or group and then they think what ever that group or religion is doing is right.

I also wounder , why max deaths are happening in the name of God. Poor God he may be laughing seeing what is happening in earth , on his behalf. Just because some one is in a particular religion because he is born for parents from same religion and others want to take revenge for that , for a fault he is not responsible. So we shall start killing each other till the last man disappear
Terang

Bandar Baru Bangi, Malaysia

#2 Nov 11, 2012
Mr Dilip,
The situation in Syria is so simple to understand. I do not know why you are so confused about it.

The Syrian regime is a brutal regime who kill his own people. So the people has to defend themselves and to bringg down the regime or else the regime will continue to murder the innocents.

The people get organised to fight the regime and they ask for international help. But Russia, China and Iran does not listen to their call but instead go against them by supporting the regime.

So they got support from Saudis, Turkey and Qatar and few other states.

So there is nothing religious about this issue. The people are just fighting to survive and to be free.

So I really don't understand why you Mr Dilip are mentally twisted in trying to analyse this Syrian issue.

“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#3 Nov 11, 2012
Turkey need to abolish obligatory service, and need to make army professional-voluntary as USA.
Syrian g 73

Phoenix, AZ

#4 Nov 11, 2012
Syria is the free land of he mid east Saudi and Qatar are cowards aiming to topPle a historic country like Syria, in the end they will fail. The rebels ready have some sects in their squads calling this a religious front and are fighting for islam. God bless Syria!

“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#5 Nov 11, 2012
Syrian g 73 wrote:
Syria is the free land of he mid east Saudi and Qatar are cowards aiming to topPle a historic country like Syria, in the end they will fail. The rebels ready have some sects in their squads calling this a religious front and are fighting for islam. God bless Syria!
Syria to have future need to become liberal democracy as west, and to join nato-eu-euro, together with Turkey and Israel.
George

Red Deer, Canada

#6 Nov 11, 2012
Terang wrote:
Mr Dilip,
The situation in Syria is so simple to understand. I do not know why you are so confused about it.
The Syrian regime is a brutal regime who kill his own people. So the people has to defend themselves and to bringg down the regime or else the regime will continue to murder the innocents.
The people get organised to fight the regime and they ask for international help. But Russia, China and Iran does not listen to their call but instead go against them by supporting the regime.
So they got support from Saudis, Turkey and Qatar and few other states.
So there is nothing religious about this issue. The people are just fighting to survive and to be free.
So I really don't understand why you Mr Dilip are mentally twisted in trying to analyse this Syrian issue.
I agree, thank you for putting it into even better words, maybe now people on this forum will understand
Dilip

Chennai, India

#7 Nov 11, 2012
Mr Terang, tell me why Saudi ,Qatar,Bahrain where monarchs rule, for decades, with out any democratic principles .Saudi only religion allowed is Islam .u cannot talk against these kings or else end up in jail.and these countries want to improve democracy in other countries. What is the logic Mr Terang. So Saudi,and many Arab countries has to first improve their system before interfering in other countries. How did Bahrain manage it's recent revolt.Syria , I find much better may be best among Arab world. Many religions Co exist in syria itself proves that. Tell me any other Arab country where so many religions coexisted for 2000 yrs.so histroy speaks by itself . You cannot prove otherwise.so today if u say Syria is bad and Saudi is trying to help it's people ,nobody can understand
Truth cannot be twisted.
TRUTHlover

Carei, Romania

#8 Nov 12, 2012
Dilip wrote:
Mr Terang, tell me why Saudi ,Qatar,Bahrain where monarchs rule, for decades, with out any democratic principles .Saudi only religion allowed is Islam .u cannot talk against these kings or else end up in jail.and these countries want to improve democracy in other countries. What is the logic Mr Terang. So Saudi,and many Arab countries has to first improve their system before interfering in other countries. How did Bahrain manage it's recent revolt.Syria , I find much better may be best among Arab world. Many religions Co exist in syria itself proves that. Tell me any other Arab country where so many religions coexisted for 2000 yrs.so histroy speaks by itself . You cannot prove otherwise.so today if u say Syria is bad and Saudi is trying to help it's people ,nobody can understand
Truth cannot be twisted.
mate,

please tell us, what did happen in Syria (before the Civil war started) if you would say something against the Assad family's rule .... or the 'Arabic Socialist Ba'ath Party rule???

what now happens, if you are against Assad, we all see on TV and read in the news ....

btw .... the coexistence of the last millennium between the religions is not the merit of Syria .... which is an invention of the Brits and France after WWI.....it is the merit of the rulers of this region .... and during the last approx 1000 years that were the Ottoman Turks ....

cheers,
Dilip

Vallioor, India

#9 Nov 12, 2012
TRUTHlover wrote:
<quoted text>
mate,
please tell us, what did happen in Syria (before the Civil war started) if you would say something against the Assad family's rule .... or the 'Arabic Socialist Ba'ath Party rule???
what now happens, if you are against Assad, we all see on TV and read in the news ....
btw .... the coexistence of the last millennium between the religions is not the merit of Syria .... which is an invention of the Brits and France after WWI.....it is the merit of the rulers of this region .... and during the last approx 1000 years that were the Ottoman Turks ....
cheers,
same Ottoman Turks are ruling Saudi. u go there for a peg of whisky, and you won't have your head to swallow and say cheers.dear don't have to be too proud to say that, in Saudi no other religion is allowed to practice. That is real intolerance,.Syria is tolerant country where government has given the freedom for even religion to be practised. Saudi as a rule other religions are banned. Isn't true dear. So what explanation will u give ?
THRUTHlover

Carei, Romania

#10 Nov 12, 2012
Dilip wrote:
<quoted text>
same Ottoman Turks are ruling Saudi. u go there for a peg of whisky, and you won't have your head to swallow and say cheers.dear don't have to be too proud to say that, in Saudi no other religion is allowed to practice. That is real intolerance,.Syria is tolerant country where government has given the freedom for even religion to be practised. Saudi as a rule other religions are banned. Isn't true dear. So what explanation will u give ?
the reasons for the uprising in Syria are not religious .... the violence started only after the security forces of Assad openly fired into the demonstrating citizens ....

however now to justify his actions, Assad is trying to turn it into a sectarian or religious confrontation .... fact is Assad never had full trust into the official security forces and the state army thus he fall back to his Shia-Allawite paramilitary Shabiha militia ....

who says that in future there will be no tolerance towards other believers ... this stuff is made up by Bashar Al-Assad and his propaganda machine ....

show me an intentionally attack by the freedom fighters against any religious institution, group or building .... however on the other hand the Assad fighting jets are bombarding indiscriminately everything.... including Mosques and Churches ....

thus what are you talking about ....????

cheers,
THRUTHlover

Carei, Romania

#11 Nov 12, 2012
Dilip wrote:
<quoted text>
same Ottoman Turks are ruling Saudi. u go there for a peg of whisky, and you won't have your head to swallow and say cheers.dear don't have to be too proud to say that, in Saudi no other religion is allowed to practice. That is real intolerance,.Syria is tolerant country where government has given the freedom for even religion to be practised. Saudi as a rule other religions are banned. Isn't true dear. So what explanation will u give ?
and your permanent comparison with Saudi Arabia is a joke .... What happens is up to the people of Saudi Arabia to decide …. not to you ….not to me ….however should they decide to do something, yes, then we debate their actions as we do now for Syria…..

in the region which is today called Saudi Arabia, neither in the ancient past nor in the modern past (prior to WWI) never lived Christians .....

during Ottoman times it was free for believers of all faith to travel freely in the entire Empire (incl. Mecca and Medina - present Saudi Arabia)... this country again an invention of the Brits to repay the Saudi family for their support during WWI ….

before WWI it never existed such a nation ... these were different tribes which were living in the desert, not owning a surface of land but water springs ....

Syria was indeed in the past a secular, multi-religious country ... but we also have to understand ……it was not this way because the Assad family were sooooo …. extreme tolerant ... NO …. it had 2 simple reasons:

a.) Syria is officially a Socialist state (therefore they are such closed friends with Russia).... like in any Socialist (authoritarian) country …….religion does not play any role, as long as it is not in interference with the state ideology or policy ......and the clergy doesn’t become to powerful/influential ……
Just do not challenge the state authority and you are fine ....

b.) this is perhaps the far more important reason:

The Assad family belongs to a minority Islamic (Shia) sect the Allewites (estimated approx 7% of the population)……. it was of course completely in their interest to be as tolerant as possible to all sects and religions .... only this way they could insure that their minority sect would survive and flourish ....

Nonetheless however the main government and security positions were all occupied by chosen Allewite members !

Keeping in mind that in Syria are 5% Druze, 7% Allewites, 10% Christian (different dominations) and the remaining 78% Sunni Muslims ..

Who were the majority?..... and concluding from that again who were tolerant towards the minorities? The Sunni's .... why should they change their attitude towards the minorities now, how you indicate???

Isn't the president of the SNC a Christian?

Stop making cheap propaganda for the Tyrant Bashar Al-Assad .... my dear .....

Cheers,
Chris

Toronto, Canada

#12 Nov 12, 2012
Terang wrote:
Mr Dilip,
The situation in Syria is so simple to understand. I do not know why you are so confused about it.
The Syrian regime is a brutal regime who kill his own people. So the people has to defend themselves and to bringg down the regime or else the regime will continue to murder the innocents.
The people get organised to fight the regime and they ask for international help. But Russia, China and Iran does not listen to their call but instead go against them by supporting the regime.
So they got support from Saudis, Turkey and Qatar and few other states.
So there is nothing religious about this issue. The people are just fighting to survive and to be free.
So I really don't understand why you Mr Dilip are mentally twisted in trying to analyse this Syrian issue.
You do not understand Mr. Dilip, because he is so much more knowledgeable and rational than you are. It is true that religion is not the reason for conflict in Syria, but religion is being used by those, who engineered the conflict. The conflict did not start because the people in Syria wanted to become free; as they are much freer than the most of their neighbours, and indeed the most of other countries’ people. The point is that Syrian government is one of very few left, that is independent from the Western dictates. Therefore the West and their puppet regimes, Monarchs of the gulf, manufactured the conflict to exchange the present secular independent government with the puppet, hopefully Muslim fundamentalist government. Syrian people, and Syrian government, are both victims in this outside scheme.
Chris

Toronto, Canada

#13 Nov 12, 2012
THRUTHlover wrote:
<quoted text>

Just do not challenge the state authority and you are fine ....
b.) this is perhaps the far more important reason:
The Assad family belongs to a minority Islamic (Shia) sect the Allewites (estimated approx 7% of the population)……. it was of course completely in their interest to be as tolerant as possible to all sects and religions .... only this way they could insure that their minority sect would survive and flourish ....
Nonetheless however the main government and security positions were all occupied by chosen Allewite members !
Keeping in mind that in Syria are 5% Druze, 7% Allewites, 10% Christian (different dominations) and the remaining 78% Sunni Muslims ..
Who were the majority?..... and concluding from that again who were tolerant towards the minorities? The Sunni's .... why should they change their attitude towards the minorities now, how you indicate???
Isn't the president of the SNC a Christian?
Stop making cheap propaganda for the Tyrant Bashar Al-Assad .... my dear .....
Cheers,
And you stop making cheep propaganda for engineers of conflict, whose method to “divide and conquer” is as old as the history of wars.

Bashar is not tyrant, because in Syrian kind of system the decisions are made collectively, and the head of the government is largely symbolic. The Tyrant and Dictator are the Western propaganda terms, intended to create the bogeyman, in order to justify the interventions in the countries.
Professor Ayreshire

Albuquerque, NM

#16 Nov 12, 2012
DENG wrote:
fighting for islam.
THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG: THE SYRIA "OPPOSITION" ARE HIRED ALQAEDA TERRORISTS WHOSE RELIGION IS MONEY HIRED AND CONTROLLED AND PAID AND NOURISHED AND WORSHIPED BY THE TERROR MOB THAT RUNS WASHINGTON D.C.
<quoted text>
You've got a lot of gall Dung!! Remember Tiananmen Square massacre??? Folks, don't waste your Time with an Automated Phone Bank of Paid, Full Time, Scripted Full Time Pro-Assad, Anti-American, Pro-Hamas, Anti-Jewish Pro-Hitler Parasites.

First off; China, Assad and Hamas's Multi-Billion (Trillion) Propaganda Industry is subsidized by their Foreign Ministry, have sophisticated Film Studios for Phony U-Tube altering and Creation, Swarms of Pseudo "Fictorians" to Fabricate complete Lies to supply their Assad and Hamas Propaganda Ministry to regurgitate.

"DUNG" is not an actual "Person"....it is just a Megaphone Operated Noise Making CHINESE PROPAGANDIST, product of today's, Pro-Chinese, Pro-Assad, Pro-Hamas, Pro-Hitler and Nazi Cyber Scams.
You're one to talk Dungbat!!

LIKE NAZI GERMANY, IRAN AND SYRIA, CHINA UNDERSTANDS HOW TO CONTROL THEIR OWN PEOPLE WITH RUTHLESS TYRANNY! Stop the silly nonsense Chinese Government Paid sock puppet!! DUNG IS THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THIS ENTIRE FORUM. NOBODY LISTENS TO HIS IGNORANT NONSENSE EXCEPT IGNORANT FOOLS LIKE THE SYRIANUTCASE AND CLONE JO JO THE ARAB CLOWN HIDING OUT IN AUSSIELAND!!
ANOTHER CONFUSED DUNG THERE?
THE TRAITORS AND TREASONOUS ARE IN THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT IN BEIJING AND ALL RUN BY A RUTHLESS DICTATOR AND SUCKING THE LIFE BLOOD OF THE POOR! CHINA SUPPORTS SYRIA AND GUESS WHAT? THERE IS NO FREEDOM IN CHINA!! THE CLOWNS RUNNING CHINA DICTATE HOW MANY CHILDREN THEY CAN HAVE TO THE INTERNET! THAT'S WHY DENGBAT HAS BEEN ABLE TO RUN HIS BIG LYING MOUTH 24/7 WITHOUT HIS DICTATOR COMING DOWN ON HIM!!
HTTP://EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG/WIKI/INTERNET_CENSORS ...'S_REPUBLIC_OF_CHINA
HTTP://WWW.TECHNOLOGYREVIEW.COM/BLOG/ARXIV/27 ...
HTTP://WWW.DISINFO.COM/TAG/CHINA/
Rtloder

Winston Hills, Australia

#17 Nov 12, 2012
Allah is only concerned with His being worshipped the way that He wants, everything else what we do is only up to us, that is, most of the time. How stupid is this, two nations of people committing criminal insanity, in the most horrendous way, then putting their trust in the victim of their crimes, to win the war for them.
Damm, acquiescence is not what it should be.
Dilip

Thrissur, India

#18 Nov 13, 2012
Every country has a opposition in there own country. So has Syria. But situation changed only when some Arab countries started supporting the minority opposition with men recruted from Al queeda to Syria. So why suddenly certain Arab countries thought they have to intervene. Those intervened like Saudi , Bahrain has the worst human rights record. So who have them the authority or what
authority they have . They them self are Non democratic. So is like a blind man trying to lead another man .
THRUTHlover wrote:
<quoted text>
and your permanent comparison with Saudi Arabia is a joke .... What happens is up to the people of Saudi Arabia to decide …. not to you ….not to me ….however should they decide to do something, yes, then we debate their actions as we do now for Syria…..
in the region which is today called Saudi Arabia, neither in the ancient past nor in the modern past (prior to WWI) never lived Christians .....
during Ottoman times it was free for believers of all faith to travel freely in the entire Empire (incl. Mecca and Medina - present Saudi Arabia)... this country again an invention of the Brits to repay the Saudi family for their support during WWI ….
before WWI it never existed such a nation ... these were different tribes which were living in the desert, not owning a surface of land but water springs ....
Syria was indeed in the past a secular, multi-religious country ... but we also have to understand ……it was not this way because the Assad family were sooooo …. extreme tolerant ... NO …. it had 2 simple reasons:
a.) Syria is officially a Socialist state (therefore they are such closed friends with Russia).... like in any Socialist (authoritarian) country …….religion does not play any role, as long as it is not in interference with the state ideology or policy ......and the clergy doesn’t become to powerful/influential ……
Just do not challenge the state authority and you are fine ....
b.) this is perhaps the far more important reason:
The Assad family belongs to a minority Islamic (Shia) sect the Allewites (estimated approx 7% of the population)……. it was of course completely in their interest to be as tolerant as possible to all sects and religions .... only this way they could insure that their minority sect would survive and flourish ....
Nonetheless however the main government and security positions were all occupied by chosen Allewite members !
Keeping in mind that in Syria are 5% Druze, 7% Allewites, 10% Christian (different dominations) and the remaining 78% Sunni Muslims ..
Who were the majority?..... and concluding from that again who were tolerant towards the minorities? The Sunni's .... why should they change their attitude towards the minorities now, how you indicate???
Isn't the president of the SNC a Christian?
Stop making cheap propaganda for the Tyrant Bashar Al-Assad .... my dear .....
Cheers,
jo jo

Varsity Lakes, Australia

#19 Nov 13, 2012
Besides all the BS and propaganda posted on this forum, the choice is simple for Syria, A: Secular gov't in need of reforms, B: religious gov't based on sharia law.
Dilip

Mandya, India

#20 Nov 13, 2012
jo jo wrote:
Besides all the BS and propaganda posted on this forum, the choice is simple for Syria, A: Secular gov't in need of reforms, B: religious gov't based on sharia law.
Arab spring in Egypt has made a country following sharia law. No different has the plan by Arab terrorist in Syria.
Syrian people ,it's gov and president should win . There is no space for failure. Truth and only the truth should survive
Rtloder

Sydney, Australia

#21 Nov 13, 2012
Dilip wrote:
<quoted text>
Arab spring in Egypt has made a country following sharia law. No different has the plan by Arab terrorist in Syria.
Syrian people ,it's gov and president should win . There is no space for failure. Truth and only the truth should survive

You people are too hard on law defined by Our Lord, He that gave us Self, devotion and ritual are salvation for everyone taking part of course it should be democratic, probably it would be in Saudi, oil helps a lot. But then Shari'a is a great advantage for the poor.

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