Analysis: Politics enters science in Erdogan's Turkey

Dec 12, 2011 Full story: Philadelphia's WB 17 6

Turkey's Prime Minister Erdogan addresses members of parliament from his ruling AK Party during a meeting at the Turkish parliament in Ankara ISTANBUL - There was a time when candidates to the Turkish Academy of Sciences needed above all the respect and acceptance of their peers, but these days the government can largely choose who gets in.

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Dander

Sydney, Australia

#1 Dec 12, 2011
Denialist turks are repeat offenders,
No surprises there!
Pezo Muso put politics into graves to dig up and appoint the ideal turkic SKULL.
TRUTHlover

Romania

#3 Dec 13, 2011
Dander wrote:
Denialist turks are repeat offenders,
No surprises there!
Pezo Muso put politics into graves to dig up and appoint the ideal turkic SKULL.
A typical Dander post .....

If you would have read the entire article, even a mentally sick person like you would immediately have understood the reasons why the Turkish government acted that way .......

But what you expect of a coward falsifier of history ....

Cheers,
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#4 Dec 13, 2011
TRUTHlover wrote:
<quoted text>
A typical Dander post .....
If you would have read the entire article, even a mentally sick person like you would immediately have understood the reasons why the Turkish government acted that way .......
But what you expect of a coward falsifier of history ....
Cheers,
Did you see yourself on MADIMAK fireworks?
you are a proud maniac.
TRUTHlover

Romania

#5 Dec 16, 2011
Dander wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you see yourself on MADIMAK fireworks?
you are a proud maniac.
Sure you are smarter than the Brits !

Read the below and learn to rethink ...

The Malta Tribunals & Nuremberg Tribunals

118 Ottoman officials were imprisoned in the island of Malta for two and a half years and without lawyers because the British public demanded justice for massacres of Armenians that were always appearing in the newspapers.

Though Britain knew that the media was used throughout World War I to paint an evil picture of the Central Powers and especially the Ottoman Empire, they fell victim to their own propaganda and were forced to create a military tribunal to punish the Ottomans for war crimes and try to calm the British public they themselves had enraged.

The Malta Tribunal that began on May 28, 1919 was a predecessor to the Nuremberg trials, even with all the evidence and archives of the Ottoman Empire at their fingertips they failed to find any evidence supporting the theory that the Ottomans had ordered a plan of genocide to exterminate the Armenians. The arrests continued as evidence was searched for throughout the world.

In fact, the Ottoman archives, since they were captured by the British (the occupation of Constantinople), were handed to an Armenian archivist who could read Ottoman documents, Haig Kazarian, to search for any evidence of crimes against humanity.

The British Foreign Office contacted the U.S. State Department and requested documents that might be used as evidence to prove the guilt of Ottoman leaders. The US State Department replied that it only had documents of testimonies and massacres but absolutely no document that would link any of the leaders to any crimes.[1]

On November 8th, 1920, Harry Lamb who made most of the recommendations for the arrest of Ottoman leaders, wrote:

Harry Lamb, British High Commission Office wrote:

[Not one of the Malta prisoners] was arrested on any evidence of the legal sense. It is safe to say that very few 'dossiers' as they now stand would not be marked 'no case' by a practical lawyer.
[2]

The infamous "Talat Pasha telegrams" inside Aram Andonian's book, in which the Minister of Interior of the Ottoman Empire ordered the extermination of the Armenians, were flat out rejected by Harry Lamb where he noted the lack of official documents that ordered genocide of the Armenians.[3]

All the news articles describing the suffering of Armenians, the Armenian testimonies of attacks, and the forgeries in Aram Andonian's books were all ignored as propaganda by the British High Commission office in charge of the Malta Tribunals.

The Ottoman officials were released, only to be killed later in other nations by Armenian terrorists in "Operation Nemesis". In contrast, the Nuremberg trials however, did find the Nazi officials guilty with overwhelming evidence and documentation of their crimes.

Armenian scholars have argued that they were only released because the British needed to trade 118 Ottoman high officials for British prisoners of war (of which there were only about 30 of them) in the hands of nationalist Turks (who rejected the Sevres Treaty and the leadership of the Ottoman government). However, it makes little sense for the British to trade 118 high class officials for only 30 British men, especially since the nationalist Turks had no respect for the Ottoman government and thus would probably not care too much about Ottoman prisoners.

WHAT YOU SAY NOW ??
Cheers,
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#6 Dec 16, 2011
TRUTHlover wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure you are smarter than the Brits !
Read the below and learn to rethink ...
The Malta Tribunals & Nuremberg Tribunals
118 Ottoman officials were imprisoned in the island of Malta for two and a half years and without lawyers because the British public demanded justice for massacres of Armenians that were always appearing in the newspapers.
Though Britain knew that the media was used throughout World War I to paint an evil picture of the Central Powers and especially the Ottoman Empire, they fell victim to their own propaganda and were forced to create a military tribunal to punish the Ottomans for war crimes and try to calm the British public they themselves had enraged.
The Malta Tribunal that began on May 28, 1919 was a predecessor to the Nuremberg trials, even with all the evidence and archives of the Ottoman Empire at their fingertips they failed to find any evidence supporting the theory that the Ottomans had ordered a plan of genocide to exterminate the Armenians. The arrests continued as evidence was searched for throughout the world.
In fact, the Ottoman archives, since they were captured by the British (the occupation of Constantinople), were handed to an Armenian archivist who could read Ottoman documents, Haig Kazarian, to search for any evidence of crimes against humanity.
The British Foreign Office contacted the U.S. State Department and requested documents that might be used as evidence to prove the guilt of Ottoman leaders. The US State Department replied that it only had documents of testimonies and massacres but absolutely no document that would link any of the leaders to any crimes.[1]
On November 8th, 1920, Harry Lamb who made most of the recommendations for the arrest of Ottoman leaders, wrote:
Harry Lamb, British High Commission Office wrote:
[Not one of the Malta prisoners] was arrested on any evidence of the legal sense. It is safe to say that very few 'dossiers' as they now stand would not be marked 'no case' by a practical lawyer.
[2]
The infamous "Talat Pasha telegrams" inside Aram Andonian's book, in which the Minister of Interior of the Ottoman Empire ordered the extermination of the Armenians, were flat out rejected by Harry Lamb where he noted the lack of official documents that ordered genocide of the Armenians.[3]
All the news articles describing the suffering of Armenians, the Armenian testimonies of attacks, and the forgeries in Aram Andonian's books were all ignored as propaganda by the British High Commission office in charge of the Malta Tribunals.
The Ottoman officials were released, only to be killed later in other nations by Armenian terrorists in "Operation Nemesis". In contrast, the Nuremberg trials however, did find the Nazi officials guilty with overwhelming evidence and documentation of their crimes.
Armenian scholars have argued that they were only released because the British needed to trade 118 Ottoman high officials for British prisoners of war (of which there were only about 30 of them) in the hands of nationalist Turks (who rejected the Sevres Treaty and the leadership of the Ottoman government). However, it makes little sense for the British to trade 118 high class officials for only 30 British men, especially since the nationalist Turks had no respect for the Ottoman government and thus would probably not care too much about Ottoman prisoners.
WHAT YOU SAY NOW ??
Cheers,
I say we got a new OKUZ in hand.

“Target: OZ-World. cCc”

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Warriorness - Honour- Genocide

#7 Dec 16, 2011
Dander wrote:
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I say we got a new OKUZ in hand.
There are many things I would do to help you, digging a hole in the wintery earth with my bare hands so that you can bury the corpse of a dog(Armenian) you killed is also one of them.

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