Anti-pot activist angles for 'no' vote

There are 20 comments on the Berkshire Eagle story from Jul 9, 2008, titled Anti-pot activist angles for 'no' vote. In it, Berkshire Eagle reports that:

It's official: Massachusetts residents will vote in November on whether to decriminalize minor possession of marijuana, and William T. Breault of Worcester is out to see that they vote "no." Breault, an ...

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television

Queensbury, NY

#81 Jul 11, 2008
Truckdriver wrote:
Encouraging or not discouraging the use of any substance other that food that changes the way the mind or body works without a Dr.'s prescription is not right. This would just add another drug to the heap. Anyone who encourages the use of this or any drug/substance should be charged with child abuse or neglect. Play a sport, learn an instrument, read a book, take a walk, dance, go bowling, join a club, volunteer or help a friend. There are plenty of positive alternative activities to drug use legal or otherwise
I agree with you 100%.
Unfortunately the world is changing right in front of our very eyes. I'm doing my best to try to make the world a better place. I'm raising happy, healthy, kind, respectful, intelligent, honest and caring children. That's my contribution to society.
I want them to grow up and experience the world, drug free.
Cliff Schaffer

United States

#82 Jul 11, 2008
Truckdriver wrote:
Encouraging or not discouraging the use of any substance other that food that changes the way the mind or body works without a Dr.'s prescription is not right. This would just add another drug to the heap. Anyone who encourages the use of this or any drug/substance should be charged with child abuse or neglect. Play a sport, learn an instrument, read a book, take a walk, dance, go bowling, join a club, volunteer or help a friend. There are plenty of positive alternative activities to drug use legal or otherwise
I know you are a little slow on the uptake TruckDriver, but there are two issues here.

One issue is whether it is good to take drugs. That is a personal decision and, obviously, most of the people in the world disagree with the idea of "drug-free". Think it over while you have a cup of coffee in the morning, or a beer with your friends.

Then there is the issue of whether people should go to jail for drugs. You know, the issue of how you discourage people from using drugs.

However you feel about drug use, it makes no sense to put people in jail just because they smoked a cigar, or had a beer, or smoked a joint. That is a waste of taxpayer money and is counterproductive in a whole lot of ways. Even if you don't like drugs, it doesn't help matters to throw people in jail for drugs.

Get the difference?

But I really don't expect you to get the difference. Prohibitionists often have a dead spot in their brain where they simply cannot comprehend that difference.

That's not to mention that you obviously have absolutely no clue about the subject. You are a fountain of wrong information on the topic.
Cliff Schaffer

United States

#83 Jul 11, 2008
television wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you 100%.
Unfortunately the world is changing right in front of our very eyes. I'm doing my best to try to make the world a better place. I'm raising happy, healthy, kind, respectful, intelligent, honest and caring children. That's my contribution to society.
I want them to grow up and experience the world, drug free.
So you are living in a fantasyland, too. Think it over while you have a cup of coffee or tea, or while you have a beer with your friends.
successful and voting yes

Albany, NY

#84 Jul 11, 2008
television wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you 100%.
Unfortunately the world is changing right in front of our very eyes. I'm doing my best to try to make the world a better place. I'm raising happy, healthy, kind, respectful, intelligent, honest and caring children. That's my contribution to society.
I want them to grow up and experience the world, drug free.
I'm happy, healthy, kind, respectful, intelligent, honest and caring. Not to mention smart and successful. I also happen to be somebody who will be voting YES in November!!!!
Brendan Melican

Boston, MA

#85 Jul 11, 2008
Billy Breault is a laughing stock in Worcester. A fossil who willfully ignores science, reason and logic in favor of a quaint Rockwellian world view.

Since: May 08

Chester, MA

#86 Jul 11, 2008
television wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you 100%.
Unfortunately the world is changing right in front of our very eyes. I'm doing my best to try to make the world a better place. I'm raising happy, healthy, kind, respectful, intelligent, honest and caring children. That's my contribution to society.
I want them to grow up and experience the world, drug free.
They have personal choices to make if they want to be free of anything!
You can make them drug free,but you cannot make the world drug free!
television

Queensbury, NY

#87 Jul 12, 2008
ramdan wrote:
<quoted text>
They have personal choices to make if they want to be free of anything!
You can make them drug free,but you cannot make the world drug free!
Wrong, I can't MAKE them drug free.I can't MAKE them anything. I can only encourage them to make good choices.
I didn't say I could MAKE the world drug free either. Re-read the post.
television

Queensbury, NY

#88 Jul 12, 2008
successful and voting yes wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm happy, healthy, kind, respectful, intelligent, honest and caring. Not to mention smart and successful. I also happen to be somebody who will be voting YES in November!!!!
And I am voting YES in November as well.
television

Queensbury, NY

#89 Jul 12, 2008
Cliff Schaffer wrote:
<quoted text>
So you are living in a fantasyland, too. Think it over while you have a cup of coffee or tea, or while you have a beer with your friends.
What fantasy land am I living in?
I thought it over, while having a cup of coffee and I'm still not sure what you mean. I'll try to mull it over a beer or two and I'm sure it still won't make sense.
It's not a fantasy to be raising responsible children. It's a reality.
And if by chance, one of them decides to smoke a joint. I would like to know that they won't be put in jail for it.
I'm voting YES in November. So what fantasy land am I living in?

Since: May 08

Springfield, MA

#90 Jul 12, 2008
television wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong, I can't MAKE them drug free.I can't MAKE them anything. I can only encourage them to make good choices.
I didn't say I could MAKE the world drug free either. Re-read the post.
I misread your goal!
I too think life would be best without drugs!
Having said that ,I support decriminalizing pot!
Tax dollars would be generated,jail space would be freed up for bigger fish,and an awful lot of criminal records would not be being hauled around by young and old alike!
A young person who ends up in jail for pot possession comes out with a whole slew of new information that they would be better off not having!
Their record precludes employment at many many places,no military enlistment,colleges shy away from admitting them,and they carry a stigma with them they do not deserve for pot possession!
Eric

AOL

#91 Jul 12, 2008
Been There - Done That wrote:
I have been smoking for the upside of 25 years, work, raised a family, volunteered in my community, paid all my bills - even the interest. Can't say I'd have done the same had I been drinking for 25 years. Decriminalize so non-violent offenders don't have a record for the rest of their lives. Decriminalize and maybe there will be less alcohol related accidents, brawls and deaths. Peace pipe anyone????
Pottstown. Nice touch.
Cliff Schaffer

United States

#92 Jul 12, 2008
television wrote:
<quoted text>
What fantasy land am I living in?
I thought it over, while having a cup of coffee and I'm still not sure what you mean. I'll try to mull it over a beer or two and I'm sure it still won't make sense.
It's not a fantasy to be raising responsible children. It's a reality.
And if by chance, one of them decides to smoke a joint. I would like to know that they won't be put in jail for it.
I'm voting YES in November. So what fantasy land am I living in?
The fantasy that anything will ever be drug-free. See your own coffee, for example.

Since: May 08

Springfield, MA

#93 Jul 12, 2008
ramdan wrote:
<quoted text>
I misread your goal!
I too think life would be best without drugs!
Having said that ,I support decriminalizing pot!
Tax dollars would be generated,jail space would be freed up for bigger fish,and an awful lot of criminal records would not be being hauled around by young and old alike!
A young person who ends up in jail for pot possession comes out with a whole slew of new information that they would be better off not having!
Their record precludes employment at many many places,no military enlistment,colleges shy away from admitting them,and they carry a stigma with them they do not deserve for pot possession!
Mellow out!
elijahhawaii

Greer, SC

#94 Jul 17, 2008
Cliff Schaffer wrote:
<quoted text>
Earlier you proved that you know absolutely nothing about the subject. Now you prove that you miss the point.
The point is that prohibition causes more problems than it solves. Can you understand that simple concept? Probably not.
HERE is a simple concept! It is called RESEARCH!
You said to research! Be careful what you ask for!

link - http://www.onlinepot.org/hash/makeownhashvide...

body of link -

News Report Expose'
If you have reached this page via Cliff Shaffer's hash section? From http://www.druglibrary.org/medicalmj/hash/def...
It is because he has stolen "Complete Entire Sections" Of our website, Just so he could put up his goggle ad's on it, "Just so he can make money", He is not in it to help the cause Or The Sick Patients. But just so that he can
"Line His Pockets With Money!"

It is one thing for someone to borrow a page to add to their website, But this "Thief" has stolen complete entire sections of our "Copywritten Web Content"
Plain & Simple Cliff Shafford Is Just a
"SLIME BAG THIEF!"
See for yourselves!
Our Hash Main Page
All You Need To Know About Hash A To Z, Hash Oil, Kif & Making Hash
Now Check Cliff's Shaffer's Stolen Complete Onlinepot Hash Section
http://www.druglibrary.org/medicalmj/hash/def...
Also Stolen is our Pot Songs Section Check Ours
The Best Marijuana, Cannabis, & Pot Songs Of All Times=
Now Check Out Cliff Shaffer Stolen Onlinepot Section
http://www.druglibrary.org/MedicalMj/marijuan...


When this happened a few months ago I went & burned a
complete backup CD of his website & ours. & DATED IT!, with all the various www.onlinepot.org Stolen Sections that Cliff Shaffer has OUTRIGHT STOLEN! & posted onto his website. Onlinepot Sections where he still had "Our Own Email Address" Still Posted On Them! Everything has been burned to a CD Rom Disk & dated For future legal actions!

1999-2008 Copyrightę
All rights reserved.

YOU SEE, TRUCKDRIVER, Cliffy is spamming his way across the country in these TOPIX forums berating and insulting people as a ruse to trick everyone into clicking on to his so-called "research" *LAUGH!* Every click means KaCHING! moeny in his pocket! He has done this very same thing in forums for EL PASO TX, LENOIR NC, LEWISBURG TN, AUSTIN TX, TULSA OK, HOBRON TX, CANTON OH, HONOLULU HI, ETC.

You want research? just google his name with TOPIX and these cities names. EL PASO is particularly horrible - how he treated this one poor girl there!

CLiff Schaffer is a plagiaristic eogtistical arrogant bully who is only looking for a quick buck.
CLIFFY - you are as fake as that helmet you call a toupee in that youtube video! You should be ashamed of how you treat others, especially that poor girl in EL PASO!

Since: Jul 08

Taylors, SC

#95 Jul 20, 2008
I am 62 and in the 60s when i smoked pot i never got in trouble but when i turnd 21 and went into bars i got in fights all the time i went to jail lost my frist wife .I don't smoke or drink now but if we legalized pot on top of drinking we would just ad to the problem.
Eric

AOL

#96 Jul 20, 2008
Scraps wrote:
I am 62 and in the 60s when i smoked pot i never got in trouble but when i turnd 21 and went into bars i got in fights all the time i went to jail lost my frist wife .I don't smoke or drink now but if we legalized pot on top of drinking we would just ad to the problem.
I'm only a few years younger than you. I smoked pot. I drank. I managed to stay out of bar fights. My only night in jail had to do with protesting the Vietnam War. Nothing to do with drugs or alcohol. I just celebrated my thirtieth wedding anniversary with my first wife. But because you couldn't behave responsibly, we should assume no one else can?
Pot is Bad

Wilbraham, MA

#97 Jul 20, 2008
People who smoke pot always try to make the drug sound so innocent. For some people maybe it is, but for others it can bring on serious depression and have what is called a paradoxical effect which means that instead of mellowing a person out it has the opposite effect and takes away all inhibitions and makes them do things they might not ordinarily do. It is a drug pure and simple. I think anti-depressives are bad too. People should try to improve their moods in natural ways that don't involve any kind of drugs. It can be done, but people are just not that creative.
another reader

Troy, NY

#98 Jul 20, 2008
Pot is Bad wrote:
People who smoke pot always try to make the drug sound so innocent. For some people maybe it is, but for others it can bring on serious depression and have what is called a paradoxical effect which means that instead of mellowing a person out it has the opposite effect and takes away all inhibitions and makes them do things they might not ordinarily do. It is a drug pure and simple. I think anti-depressives are bad too. People should try to improve their moods in natural ways that don't involve any kind of drugs. It can be done, but people are just not that creative.
Legalizing it would not mean telling people they HAVE to use it! If you think the "side effects" of pot are bad...have you seen anyone suffering from lung cancer or emphysema lately?? And cigaretts ARE legal.

Come on people, what the issue is here is:
Should pot be given the same legal status as alcohol and cigarettes? My answer is a resounding "YES" as both the side effects and the resulting criminal behavior are decidedly lesser than the two aforementioned drugs. The only reason pot was declared a "drug" in the first place is because Nixon needed a strong stance on other drugs so he had pot declared one, even though his own scientists couldn't find any proof of its' negative attributes. The research has been done...pot is an "Herb"...

You don't want to smoke it? Then don't. But don't criticize those who do as they can, and will, do it in moderation and can handle themselves just fine...unlike most drinkers.

I'd rather be on the road with a pot smoker than a drunk anyday!
Pot is Bad

Easthampton, MA

#99 Jul 20, 2008
another reader wrote:
<quoted text>
Legalizing it would not mean telling people they HAVE to use it! If you think the "side effects" of pot are bad...have you seen anyone suffering from lung cancer or emphysema lately?? And cigaretts ARE legal.
Come on people, what the issue is here is:
Should pot be given the same legal status as alcohol and cigarettes? My answer is a resounding "YES" as both the side effects and the resulting criminal behavior are decidedly lesser than the two aforementioned drugs. The only reason pot was declared a "drug" in the first place is because Nixon needed a strong stance on other drugs so he had pot declared one, even though his own scientists couldn't find any proof of its' negative attributes. The research has been done...pot is an "Herb"...
You don't want to smoke it? Then don't. But don't criticize those who do as they can, and will, do it in moderation and can handle themselves just fine...unlike most drinkers.
I'd rather be on the road with a pot smoker than a drunk anyday!
Yes, my mother has nicotine addiction that is threatening her life. I wish nicotine wasn't legal. If it wasn't she would have to go through some very extreme withdrawal symptoms, but she wouldn't have any choice because she couldn't afford to pay the price for illegal cigarettes. She has been smoking for over 50 years and it has definitely taken its toll, but she will not or cannot quit...probably both at this point.

I know that pot is an herb, but just because something is an herb doesn't mean its safe. Some herbs are very unsafe. For myself I go cold turkey on just about everything like liquor, nicotine, drugs, etc. Maybe because I have seen my mother suffer so much because of her "addiction" to nicotine. I don't want anything to have a hold over me like it does over her.
another reader

Troy, NY

#100 Jul 20, 2008
Pot is Bad wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, my mother has nicotine addiction that is threatening her life. I wish nicotine wasn't legal. If it wasn't she would have to go through some very extreme withdrawal symptoms, but she wouldn't have any choice because she couldn't afford to pay the price for illegal cigarettes. She has been smoking for over 50 years and it has definitely taken its toll, but she will not or cannot quit...probably both at this point.
I know that pot is an herb, but just because something is an herb doesn't mean its safe. Some herbs are very unsafe. For myself I go cold turkey on just about everything like liquor, nicotine, drugs, etc. Maybe because I have seen my mother suffer so much because of her "addiction" to nicotine. I don't want anything to have a hold over me like it does over her.
You have my deepest sympathies on the plight your mother is enduring. Cigarettes are harder to kick than Heroin.

However, marijuana, when grown non-commercially (in back yards etc.) doesn't have all the additives that the government has put in cigarettes to make them that addictive.

Anti-pot ads keep talking about everything pot "does to you"...but they ignore the poasitive side...lowers blood pressure, calms and relaxes you, and increases appetite. This last one has helped millions of people get through the horrible side effects of chemotherapy...a legal drug! I shudder to think of how many more deaths would have occurred had no pot been available to those who needed it.

Yes, I know there are people to whom a variety of things are dangerous...but considfer that there are lactose intolerant people who must avoid milk products,...and peanut allergies that kill people! Yet, we can't ban milk and nuts either.

It's a matter of knowing what you can take and what you can't. Pot shouldn't be banned just because a select number cannot control themselves enough to say "no thanks".

Pot is not always the stepping stone to harder stuff. Those who have addictive personalities WILL find a way to get high...whether by huffing paint or sniffing magic markers...should we ban those too?

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