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Keep West Manheim sled slope open to all A

There are 29 comments on the Evening Sun story from Feb 17, 2009, titled Keep West Manheim sled slope open to all A. In it, Evening Sun reports that:

For as long as just about anyone can remember, the hills surrounding the former West Manheim Elementary have been popular sled slopes.

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anynomus

United States

#1 Feb 17, 2009
The West Manheim Township Recreation Park has an area planned for Sledding, BMX Riding, a Skate Park, and much more. Ror information visit www.buildthepark.com . The township is always looking for imput from the community on this recreation park
Hanoverian

Bryn Mawr, PA

#2 Feb 17, 2009
when i was young and living out near south hills golf course - we did sledding out there and it was the best time with friends and family - what are these young kids suppose to do - it is only (here lately) a couple times a year - deal with it and let them have fun - cuz what else is there to do?
FRANK

Baltimore, MD

#3 Feb 17, 2009
If the township refuses to allow sledding at this location, it will be nothing more than just another black eye for them.
meeting

Flourtown, PA

#4 Feb 17, 2009
The Supervisors meet tonight at 6:00PM to talk about!
just because

Harrisburg, PA

#5 Feb 17, 2009
Are you willing to pay the costs associated with defending a law suit when someone breaks a leg on township property?? Tens of thousands of dollars for sure. What about the neighboring property owners, the township has to consider their concerns. The school allowed it as a don't see don't care attitude, doesn't mean the township has to act blind about it. Sure it would be nice if they could allow it but they have to look out for the entire townships interest not a few sledders.
Harley Lover

Brentwood, TN

#6 Feb 18, 2009
put up a sign that says "sled at your own risk...no sledguard on duty" ... first the Hat Man and now this...let's just put all the kids in a building and lock them up so they can't have any fun, we won't see them, nor will we hear them. I'm guessing these neighbors and such were NEVER kids themselves and NEVER went sledding...course not! Just another bunch of FUN SUCKERS to join the Littlestown group.
FRANK

Gwynn Oak, MD

#7 Feb 18, 2009
just because wrote:
Are you willing to pay the costs associated with defending a law suit when someone breaks a leg on township property?? Tens of thousands of dollars for sure. What about the neighboring property owners, the township has to consider their concerns. The school allowed it as a don't see don't care attitude, doesn't mean the township has to act blind about it. Sure it would be nice if they could allow it but they have to look out for the entire townships interest not a few sledders.
This is the same excuse the township "leaders" frequently use when they don't want to do what is right and good. Excuses do not replace leadership.

Since: May 08

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#8 Feb 18, 2009
This is the usual mindset in America. A few people could or do cause a few problems, and suddenly everyone is punished by outlawing the activity, all for the sake of our future or our children's future.

Banning people from sledding down a hill (which people have always sled down) sounds like the township supervisors need more actual work to do instead of devoting their entire time to creating new ordinances, and laws.

However, I do support the township employee/supervisor who asked for public input on the matter. The township residents pay for the municipal building, and pay the paychecks of the supervisors. They work for us. This

Given a few people have had problems, but that's only a few out of hundreds/thousands in the township.
MOM

Landisburg, PA

#9 Feb 18, 2009
AND PEOPLE WONDER WHY THERE IS A DRUG PROBLEM, GO FIGURE?!?
Late again

Middletown, PA

#10 Feb 18, 2009
Bil98z24 wrote:
This is the usual mindset in America. A few people could or do cause a few problems, and suddenly everyone is punished by outlawing the activity, all for the sake of our future or our children's future.
Banning people from sledding down a hill (which people have always sled down) sounds like the township supervisors need more actual work to do instead of devoting their entire time to creating new ordinances, and laws.
Hit the nail on the head
However, I do support the township employee/supervisor who asked for public input on the matter. The township residents pay for the municipal building, and pay the paychecks of the supervisors. They work for us. This
Given a few people have had problems, but that's only a few out of hundreds/thousands in the township.
Hit the nail on the head
FRANK

Gwynn Oak, MD

#11 Feb 18, 2009
Bil98z24 wrote:
This is the usual mindset in America. A few people could or do cause a few problems, and suddenly everyone is punished by outlawing the activity, all for the sake of our future or our children's future.
Banning people from sledding down a hill (which people have always sled down) sounds like the township supervisors need more actual work to do instead of devoting their entire time to creating new ordinances, and laws.
However, I do support the township employee/supervisor who asked for public input on the matter. The township residents pay for the municipal building, and pay the paychecks of the supervisors. They work for us. This
Given a few people have had problems, but that's only a few out of hundreds/thousands in the township.
Well said!

When the place was still a school, I was teaching my son to ride his bike there, because there was plenty of pavement. However, the cops came and asked us to leave. I considered that a complete waste of public resources.
suehappy

Tuscaloosa, AL

#12 Feb 18, 2009
...sounds like West M. is taking lessons from Penn Twp, next the merger, it's coming........
King Tater

Harrisburg, PA

#13 Feb 18, 2009
suehappy wrote:
...sounds like West M. is taking lessons from Penn Twp, next the merger, it's coming........
That is correct, both will be part of Tater City.
That is all.
Ravensfan

Carlisle, PA

#14 Feb 19, 2009
Are they going to tear down the playground?My kids wanted to go there the other day but I wasnt sure if they still allowed it.
Eddie

United States

#15 Feb 19, 2009
All good comments on this thread, but I fail to see any actions being done. We can all sit comfortably behind our keyboards and type snide comments back and forth, but who here is willing to goto the township and make their voice truly heard. I agree that it is dissapointing to hear that the township does not want sledding at the new building. From what I understand they are building a new park that will allow all kinds of great activities. Because it is a public 'recreation park' the townships liability is a slim factor for activities, due to the 'PA Recreation Act'. It's time for us to stop complaining and start making our voices heard at the township so that our kids have a great place to play. I'm planning to goto the next meeting on this park to see what it's all about.
FRANK

Baltimore, MD

#16 Feb 19, 2009
Eddie wrote:
All good comments on this thread, but I fail to see any actions being done. We can all sit comfortably behind our keyboards and type snide comments back and forth, but who here is willing to goto the township and make their voice truly heard. I agree that it is dissapointing to hear that the township does not want sledding at the new building. From what I understand they are building a new park that will allow all kinds of great activities. Because it is a public 'recreation park' the townships liability is a slim factor for activities, due to the 'PA Recreation Act'. It's time for us to stop complaining and start making our voices heard at the township so that our kids have a great place to play. I'm planning to goto the next meeting on this park to see what it's all about.


Good point, but being vocal (and diplomatic) with the township has provided few results. While the new park/playgorund will certainly be nice AND have a sledding hill, it may not be within walking distance for the kids that live close to the township offices. I believe that the township would get better ratings if they were more inclined to figure out ways to get things done, instead of using excuses to stop things.
just because

Mechanicsburg, PA

#17 Feb 19, 2009
I still don't see anyone addressing the issue of the kids sledding into another person's property at the bottom of the hill. The start on the township property but don't stop until they slide into the yards on Michelle Way. Those folks have vocally requested the sledding be stopped for fear of liability when someone gets hurt, as did occur last year. This is more than an issue of using the township property, it involves other residents who have a legitimate liability concern. I bet if most of the posts here had kids sledding into their yards they would be singing a differnt tune.
FRANK

Gwynn Oak, MD

#18 Feb 19, 2009
I might be willing to bet that kids have been sledding down that hill prior to Michelle Way's existance. But since lawyers run the country, thoughtful residents might consider consulting their homeowner's insurance agent, to make sure of the extent of their liability. Additional coverage for people that sled, hunt or fish on my property was surprisingly cheap.
wm resident

Newville, PA

#19 Feb 19, 2009
just becouse, you are correct the issue isnt sledding on the twp hill its where they end up at. I went to the meeting and voiced my concerns yes I live on Michelle Way. So it should be ok for me to work hard for everything I have , put in a long day at work come home find the vent pipe for my septic broke off laying in the yard. Haveing to dig it up run to lowes for parts fix it then go inside eat dinner and listen to kids screaming until mid night as they go down the hill. If they can pick an area for it on the hill great dont stop it as long as it doent interfear with anyone else. And for the poster who said they used to walk there as a kid. Those kids arent the problem its the car loads dropped off
WM Resident

Philadelphia, PA

#20 Feb 19, 2009
FRANK wrote:
I might be willing to bet that kids have been sledding down that hill prior to Michelle Way's existance. But since lawyers run the country, thoughtful residents might consider consulting their homeowner's insurance agent, to make sure of the extent of their liability. Additional coverage for people that sled, hunt or fish on my property was surprisingly cheap.
I attended the meeting and the property owners who spoke were asked to check with their homeowners insurance and let the Supervisors know how it would work if something happened. One homeowner is against it and one was for it. So they both need to see what coverage if any would be in place since the children are coming off of Township property on to theirs.

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