Hockey dad in fatal fight trying for ...

Hockey dad in fatal fight trying for parole

There are 75 comments on the Lowell Sun story from Apr 11, 2008, titled Hockey dad in fatal fight trying for parole. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

A Natick father who was convicted of manslaughter in the beating death of another dad at their son's hockey practice will try again for parole.

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Since: May 08

Hollywood, FL

#24 May 8, 2008
The guy seemed like he was a good guy until he made one bad decision, I hardly think that he would ever do it again but one never knows
Patti

Raynham, MA

#25 May 8, 2008
My husband wouldn't have instigated a fight with a father for trying to stop aggressive behavior on a rink, court, or field. Costin's response should have been, you're right, they're too rough out there and told the kids to stop.

I know it wasn't premeditated and the rest of you know it too. Who honestly thinks he thought I want to kill this guy and leave his children fatherless? Be real.
The Chelmsford Flash

North Augusta, SC

#26 May 8, 2008
Patti wrote:
My husband wouldn't have instigated a fight with a father for trying to stop aggressive behavior on a rink, court, or field. Costin's response should have been, you're right, they're too rough out there and told the kids to stop.
I know it wasn't premeditated and the rest of you know it too. Who honestly thinks he thought I want to kill this guy and leave his children fatherless? Be real.
You make many assumptions that cannot possibly support or know.
1. How do you know what your husband would or would not do in the heat of the momment?
2.How do you know the murder that Junta committed was not premeditated?
3.Why should this murderer (Junta)not spend the rest of his life in jail for murdering another human?

Again Patti , You need to elevate your thinking!
Patti

Raynham, MA

#27 May 9, 2008
My thinking is elevated, yours is not. Let's review the facts here again.

1. Costin thought rough play was acceptable, Junta did not. He arrived at the rink, and more than one mother informed him the play was too tough, and he stepped in and told Costin to control the kids' play.

2. Costin instigated the argument with Junta on 3 occasions, twice, Junta walked away.

3. Costin was looking for a fight, he was a boxer, not someone inexperienced in fighting.

4. The weight factor is continuously brought up here, 275 lbs vs 160 lbs. Weight is not an indicator of strength. I have a 14 year old who weighs 170 lbs and is solid muscle, his football coach said he's stronger than me. He has friends over 200 lbs. who are total mush.

5. Medical experts continuously contacted Junta's lawyers to say they found medical evidence regarding Costin's unfortunate death. Another person wouldn't have died. The judge ruled against presenting this evidence.

Junta has served 6+ years for a very unfortunate accident. Why wasn't it self-defense for him, the results could have been the other way around. Costin was a boxer, an experienced fighter, and out looking for a fight. What if Junta is just a large man but without strength, what if he had a undiagnosed medical condition that 3 blows would kill him?
Patti

Raynham, MA

#29 May 9, 2008
There are too many ifs in the case, period. That's why it's time to let Junta be free.

Alexander Pring is walking around free, just because he could afford a better lawyer.
The Chelmsford Flash

North Augusta, SC

#30 May 9, 2008
Patti wrote:
There are too many ifs in the case, period. That's why it's time to let Junta be free.
Alexander Pring is walking around free, just because he could afford a better lawyer.
You: Patti with all your illogical liberal excuse making and situational ethics are the root cause of most of whats wrong in our society today!

Murder is murder!

Mr. Costin is dead and his boys are without their father FOREVER!

When Mr. costin comes back to life maybe then we can discuss releasing this murderer from prison.

Again, you need to elevate your thinking you sound like a school girl cheerleader.
Patti

Raynham, MA

#31 May 9, 2008
Your previous email was so fair, but now you're back to the nasty comments again.

Don't ever refer to me as a cheerleader, liberal, I have no problem with, but a cheerleader yes.

What's wrong with society today, well, I think that root of that is in DC. I'm sure you think he's doing a great job as well and you have the McCain bumper sticker on your vehicle already.

Your closedmindedness needs some elevating, look into Costin's background a little more. I'm not going to bash the dead here, but do some digging.
Lowering the Bar

Lowell, MA

#32 May 9, 2008
Patti,
Remember the old cliche about lowering yourself to a certain level, then getting beaten with experience.
The Chelmsford Flash

North Augusta, SC

#33 May 9, 2008
Patti wrote:
Your previous email was so fair, but now you're back to the nasty comments again.
Don't ever refer to me as a cheerleader, liberal, I have no problem with, but a cheerleader yes.
What's wrong with society today, well, I think that root of that is in DC. I'm sure you think he's doing a great job as well and you have the McCain bumper sticker on your vehicle already.
Your closedmindedness needs some elevating, look into Costin's background a little more. I'm not going to bash the dead here, but do some digging.
Yes I had it right.
I almost always do.
You come here and advocate on behalf of a murderer, rather than advocating on behalf of the victim and his family!

Then you call ME closeminded?!?!?!

LMFAO!

You are the typical liberal, azzbackwards and insideout in all manner of pragmatic thinking.
Or as I like to say:

Liberals, Claiming the world is upsidedown while standing on their head.
Bystander

Braintree, MA

#34 May 9, 2008
Junta's kid played on the Reading High School Hockey Team this year and he is outstanding player. Too bad the old man wasn't around to watch his kid. BUT all of you people here commenting on this board have no idea what happened that night. I was in the rink that it happened and Costin started the confrontation and threw the first punch. Doesn't mean that Junta shouldn't have known better but still, you sucker someone aren't you asking to get hit back? Again I witnessed the whole thing and was part of the trial, and I do believe that Junta should've stopped hitting the man who was clearly hurt on the ground, but he by no means started the physical fight, Costin did.
The Chelmsford Flash

North Augusta, SC

#35 May 9, 2008
Bystander wrote:
Junta's kid played on the Reading High School Hockey Team this year and he is outstanding player. Too bad the old man wasn't around to watch his kid. BUT all of you people here commenting on this board have no idea what happened that night. I was in the rink that it happened and Costin started the confrontation and threw the first punch. Doesn't mean that Junta shouldn't have known better but still, you sucker someone aren't you asking to get hit back? Again I witnessed the whole thing and was part of the trial, and I do believe that Junta should've stopped hitting the man who was clearly hurt on the ground, but he by no means started the physical fight, Costin did.
Ah, now we're getting somewhere,
So Costin threw the first punch, then Junta retaliated, o.k., fine, anyone would have done the same,Right, agreed?
Now , how many times did the 275lb. bully pummel the 165lb. man after he was down? 2-3-4-5----9 times or more?
This brings to light the difference between protecting oneself, and an assault that ended in the death of a much, much smaller man.

This was no mistake by Junta, he knew he was superior in strength and size during the altercation and took full advantage of the situation that ended in another mans death!
leave

United States

#36 May 9, 2008
leave him in jail for the rest of his life. he must not be the big man on campus in prison. this wasn't a simple punching match between equals as I recall.
geezer

Princeton, MA

#37 May 9, 2008
Patti wrote:
Don't you think 6 years is enough? He's being made an example for bad sports parents. Enough is enough. His kids are without a father as well.
Reminder: he thought the kids were too aggressive, too violent on the ice, Costin saw nothing wrong with their play, "that's hockey" was his response. The guy condoned violence, he was no boy scout himself. He initiated the altercation.
He's served 6 years, missed out on 6 years of his children's lives as well. He is a super Dad, and missing their games, their graduations, etc., is painful for him as well. I sympathize with Costin's family for their loss, especially his children. It's a no win situation for both sides. Costin's father forgave Junta, it's time for the rest of you.
How much of this stuff will his victim miss,you idiot. Where's your sensibilities. He didn't just give him a black eye, he KILLED him for god's sake !!!
Chelmsford

Boston, MA

#38 May 9, 2008
Patty, you keep saying he walked away twice, he should have walked away a third time. If he had, the man wouldn't have died. He may have been considered a real jerk by the hockey parents, but he would be alive. It doesn't matter that he may have had another condition and if it was another man, the punches wouldn't have killed him. The point is he didn't walk away, he did fight a man and the man died as a result of the fight or the fight triggered another medical condition. You also argue that he was the one that thought the kids were too violent and yet it was his own violent actions that lead to the man's death. You also ask, "Haven't you ever been pushed too far?" We all have choices. Maybe, it is those moments in one's life that tells the true measure of the man/woman.
Judge Roy Beam

Colchester, VT

#39 May 9, 2008
Don't you people have anything better to do than come on here and get beat up by Keyboard Commandos? I will admit,it's good for a few laughs once in awhile.
Tony

Acton, MA

#40 May 9, 2008
I can't blame Junta for hitting Costin once or twice, but that's when he should have stopped. It definately is a no win situation for both families. Still it stands that one person is alive and will be out in a couple of years while the other, whether he acted like a jerk and started the altercation, is gone.
Someone mentioned that in a similiar case someonelse got out early or got no time at all. Life is not fair. That's the hardest lesson in life for all of us to learn or understand.
I just hope the children of both fathers will be ok. They deserved better.

Since: May 08

Hollywood, FL

#41 May 10, 2008
I heard that there were only 3 punches thrown, and i guess the third blow to his temple did it, such a shame to do in front of his kids and others.
bob

Glenwood, Australia

#42 Jun 16, 2008
this is why we have capital punishment people. so fat ugly bastards such as mr junta can be killed and God and everyone else can be happy. what the hell is wrong with you people who say he should only have a few years for beating a man to death in front of his children

“One never knows,do one?”

Since: Nov 07

Boston,Ma

#45 Jun 25, 2008
Patti wrote:
It wasn't a premeditated murder, it was a few punches with an unfortunate result. He walked away from Costin twice before retaliating. Hasn't someone ever pushed you too far?
There was medical evidence not allowed to be presented in this case. Costin was the victim that someone else wouldn't have been.
And to answer The Nerve, yes, I've watched hockey, and my kids don't play it and never will.
I agree. The way people are talking on this forum is ridiculous. Life in prison? Costin was always a punk anyway.Let him out.
Hind sight

Plymouth, MA

#46 Jun 25, 2008
bob wrote:
this is why we have capital punishment people. so fat ugly bastards such as mr junta can be killed and God and everyone else can be happy. what the hell is wrong with you people who say he should only have a few years for beating a man to death in front of his children
While costin didnt deserve to die he was asking for trouble & he found it that time

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