Smoking impairs fracture recovery

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Does anyone out there not know that cigarette smoking is bad for your health? I doubt it.

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Anonymouse

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This story reminds me of something that occured about a year ago where I used to work. A co-worker had dental surgery that was taking forever to heal. The dental surgeon told him that it was probably taking much longer to heal than it should because he was a heavy smoker. I would imagine that those who smoke, and who have had surgery lately have been told that it may affect their recovery.
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It honestly seems like we have become a society that if in doubt "it is because of smoking."

I know smokers who have had fractures that have healed quite nicely and I know nonsmokers who have had fractures that healed with great difficulty.

"That being said, it also motivates me to encourage my patients who smoke to make every effort to quit" translates to "I get to nag them."

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Tired Uvit wrote:
It honestly seems like we have become a society that if in doubt "it is because of smoking."
No, it's obvious that the dental surgeon was well aware of the scientific research done that shows how healing is retarded in smokers.
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I believe, it has much more to do with a combination of lifestyle choices. Diet, activity, alcohol, drugs, sleep patterns, smoking, etc. To point a finger at just smoking, takes much too simplictic a view of a situation. But, it is also the easy way out, and, PC at this time.
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I am so glad my fractured ankle didn't know that in 1996 or it would not have healed in the timely manner that it did.

Would my surgery in 1995 on both feet have healed ahead of schedule as the did if they had known?

WOW, and I smoke. The anti smoking agenda is such a crock of BS

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SassyVarmit wrote:
I believe, it has much more to do with a combination of lifestyle choices.
Interesting, what do you base your belief on?
Al Smokehommond Jazzeri

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um, must be certain people and doesnt apply to all smokers.. I had no problem healing with my dental surgery and they never mentioned it. Also recovered fine from my rotator cuff surgery. One must look very hard to find the scar.! Cant say I agree with this 100%
Al Smokehommond Jazzeri

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The non smoking leaders are pulling at every string to justify thier agenda. Pathetic isnt it.?

Then they have thier sheep agreeing with them , with no actuall knowledge to back up thier statements.

Question for the zealots: Now do you think that smoking affect the color of my stool, and bladder waste ???? If so where is the study ?
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SassyVarmit wrote:
I believe, it has much more to do with a combination of lifestyle choices. Diet, activity, alcohol, drugs, sleep patterns, smoking, etc. To point a finger at just smoking, takes much too simplictic a view of a situation. But, it is also the easy way out, and, PC at this time.
Medical conditions can affect healing such as diabetes for one whether a smoker or not
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Eric_Johnson wrote:
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Interesting, what do you base your belief on?
There are many factors that effect healing. Diet is needed to "feed" the healing process, exercise is needed to increase blood flow, sleep (rest) is needed for the body to heal, etc.

Stress, drugs, smoking, alcohol, inactivity, bad diet all prohibit the healing process.

As for the medical "short cut"? What do I base that on? 25 yrs in the medical field...will that do?
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Linda wrote:
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Medical conditions can affect healing such as diabetes for one whether a smoker or not
yes, as can heart disease, breathing problems, Aids, Hep. C, immune system disorders... basically any major health problem will produce an impact on the healing processes.

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SassyVarmit wrote:
There are many factors that effect healing. Diet is needed to "feed" the healing process, exercise is needed to increase blood flow, sleep (rest) is needed for the body to heal, etc.
Stress, drugs, smoking, alcohol, inactivity, bad diet all prohibit the healing process.
Absolutely, however the retardation of healing due to smoking has been shown on a biological level.
As for the medical "short cut"? What do I base that on? 25 yrs in the medical field...will that do?
Medical field? Were you a hospital janitor? <joke, no offence meant!>.

If you were involved in the field of "tobacco toxicology and its effects on a cellular level" then I bow down to your superior knowledge.

I think I'll be looking straight ahead though!
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We had a Heavy Smoker at work who broke his leg and was out for weeks collecting disablity. It wasn't healing correctly and the doctor told him his smoking was slowing down the healing process.
He had an extra month of disablity, AND GUESS WHO PAID FOR THAT? I'm sick of paying for the smokers "Extra" care. The list just keeps getting longer and longer why smokers should pay more for their medical care and disablities.
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Eric_Johnson wrote:
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Absolutely, however the retardation of healing due to smoking has been shown on a biological level.
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Medical field? Were you a hospital janitor? <joke, no offence meant!>.
If you were involved in the field of "tobacco toxicology and its effects on a cellular level" then I bow down to your superior knowledge.
I think I'll be looking straight ahead though!


Eric, have you even considered the possibility the subjects for these test were pulled from the lower income levels, that do not get proper dietary intake, do not get proper medical care, and, have no idea of health care?

This is what many in the O.B. field suspect happens with the surveys done on smoking and it's correlation to small birth weight babies.

Unlike you, I stated in my original post that "I believed" that to be the situation. At no time did I state I was an expert in the field. And, for your future consideration.... just reading something does not make you an expert, nor, does it being in print make it fact.
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SassyVarmit wrote:
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Eric, have you even considered the possibility the subjects for these test were pulled from the lower income levels, that do not get proper dietary intake, do not get proper medical care, and, have no idea of health care?
This is what many in the O.B. field suspect happens with the surveys done on smoking and it's correlation to small birth weight babies.
Unlike you, I stated in my original post that "I believed" that to be the situation. At no time did I state I was an expert in the field. And, for your future consideration.... just reading something does not make you an expert, nor, does it being in print make it fact.
This comes directly from the linked story. I'm not sure if everyone posting read it.

Study after study since the early 1990s has confirmed what orthopaedic surgeons suspected for many years: namely, that smokers seem to have more complicated healing when it comes to fractured bones.

Early on, it was felt that these patients didn't heal well because they were generally unhealthy, either as a result of poor nutrition, heavy alcohol intake or diabetes. A large study published two years ago in the Journal of Orthopaedic Trauma finally put this controversy to bed. It carefully teased out the effects of smoking on the healing of tibia (lower leg bone) fractures and fracture complications such as bone infection. Smokers, and even ex-smokers, were significantly less likely to have their fractures heal and about three times more likely to develop a bone infection. Case closed.

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Anonymouse wrote:
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This comes directly from the linked story. I'm not sure if everyone posting read it.
Study after study since the early 1990s has confirmed what orthopaedic surgeons suspected for many years: namely, that smokers seem to have more complicated healing when it comes to fractured bones.
Early on, it was felt that these patients didn't heal well because they were generally unhealthy, either as a result of poor nutrition, heavy alcohol intake or diabetes. A large study published two years ago in the Journal of Orthopaedic Trauma finally put this controversy to bed. It carefully teased out the effects of smoking on the healing of tibia (lower leg bone) fractures and fracture complications such as bone infection. Smokers, and even ex-smokers, were significantly less likely to have their fractures heal and about three times more likely to develop a bone infection. Case closed.
http://www.nationalpost.com/life/health/story...
Do you not read? I never stated that I believed, that smoking had no impact... I stated that, that there are more issues than just smoking.

Once again, there is no back up on how the people were picked for the "study"... isn't that typical?
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No wonder a broken heart is hard to mend.
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Smoke Free wrote:
We had a Heavy Smoker at work who broke his leg and was out for weeks collecting disablity. It wasn't healing correctly and the doctor told him his smoking was slowing down the healing process.
He had an extra month of disablity, AND GUESS WHO PAID FOR THAT? I'm sick of paying for the smokers "Extra" care. The list just keeps getting longer and longer why smokers should pay more for their medical care and disablities.
My guess is that it wasn't you that paid for any of it dimwit.
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