Snowboarder, snowmobile collide at The Canyons - The Park Record

There are 29 comments on the Park Record story from Jan 13, 2009, titled Snowboarder, snowmobile collide at The Canyons - The Park Record. In it, Park Record reports that:

A Park City snowboarder was in intensive care Tuesday after he was struck Friday by a snowmobile a resort employee was operating at The Canyons, an attorney for the victim said.

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pcskiboy

West Jordan, UT

#1 Jan 13, 2009
Perhaps the Canyons should consider paying "real" professional wages to workers instead of offering employment by enticing them with a free season pass. Just the other day, my little kid just about got crushed underneath the saddleback chairlift while exiting because the lift operator was sitting in the booth text messaging and not paying attention.
anonymous

Salt Lake City, UT

#2 Jan 14, 2009
this guy has a case, and should be compensated... he might be paralyzed because the employee was obviously going WAY too fast to cause this kind of injury... you would think anyone riding a snowmobile at a SKI RESORT wouldn't go over 5-10 mph... especially on a run! this man wouldn't be possibly paralyzed had the employee followed the rules. period. it's too bad the canyons is trying to cover this one up... their employee made a grave mistake, and now this man might not walk, let alone ride, again. take some responsibility, fire the jerk who didn't care about the life of a guest, and compensate him for the years he will spend not able to ride the resort he loved.
Rabble

Framingham, MA

#3 Jan 14, 2009
Doesn't suprise me. They drive those things way to fast up there-- don't slow down on blind corners/hills, and drive fast through heavy traffic areas. At PC I trust them, at the Canyons I stay the hell out of the way...
concerned

Salt Lake City, UT

#4 Jan 14, 2009
An account has been set up at Wells Fargo Bank in the name of John Everett for any donations to help with medical costs.
Skeptikal

Boulder, CO

#5 Jan 14, 2009
Very one-sided article. Highly unlikely the snowmobile was speeding at the bottom of a lift. Sounds more like another out-of-control snowboarder and a blood-sucking attorney.
Angered

Salt Lake City, UT

#6 Jan 14, 2009
One-sided on the side of the Canyons and their cover up! There is no way a "nearly stopped" snowmobile could have caused such injuries, it is obvious that this was reckless driving by a Canyons employee with a Canyons motorized vehicle. Further, the canyons are full of it if they don't know who was operating the snowmobile... If I know, I'm sure they know. This sounds like a PR article to cover the Canyons mistake. SHAME ON YOU CANYONS!!!
Solomon

Brigham City, UT

#7 Jan 14, 2009
Nothing is "obvious," particularly not based upon a news story by the Park Record, which is not exactly known for its fact gathering. Avoid the rush to judgment.
Sceptical of Pat

Park City, UT

#8 Jan 14, 2009
Everyone knows that Pat Parkinson hates The Canyons and never just reports the news. Pat always puts a negative spin on anything Canyons related. Pat says the snowmobile hit the snowboarder but Mike Goar is quoted as saying the snowboarder hit the snowmobile. Hey Pat, which is it? This will obviously be the topic of an investigation but it's amazing to me so many of the posters on this blog are making assumptions before they know the whole story. Do The Canyons and the injured snowboarder a favor and reserve your opinions for if you get selected to be on the jury. None of us know what happened and we certainly can't rely on Pat to tell us the facts. What about the comments from The Canyons suggests they are trying to cover anything up? Pat has no credibility as a journalist - never has. He has way too many biases for and against people and businesses in this town. It's just amazing to me he didn't seek a quote from Kenny Griswold like he always does. Remeber the last story? According to Pat and Kenny inbounds avalanches only happen at The Canyons and only because of The Canyons' financial situation. Look how many inbounds avalanches we've had around the country. Give it a rest, Pat. Some of us who read the Park Record are still trying to find out what is really going on and could care less about your biased opinion. Sounds to me like a tragic accident and I don't know what good it does to pass blame on either the snowboarder or The Canyons right now.
Tragic

Park City, UT

#9 Jan 14, 2009
What a tragedy - whether it was a snowmobile, a tree, another skier or whatever. It doesn't take much speed to cause an accident that can result in devastating injuries. We all assume that risk when we go high speeds down a ski run or when we hop on a snowmobile or, for that matter, when we get in car. Very sad.
SMS

Englewood, CO

#10 Jan 14, 2009
I think everyone needs to step away from the jump to conclusion mat. It is total possible to wind up in intensive care if you were boarding out of control and hit a parked snowmobile. I am not saying that's what happened but it is just as likely that the snowboarder was reckless as it is that the snowmobile driver was reckless. Only time will tell, I am sure the person driving the snowmobile feels horrible and all of you assuming he is guilty without talking to him OR the snowboarder isn't going to help the situation or help John get better. It's a tragic situation and I wish John a full and speedy recovery.
johns cousin

Mesquite, TX

#11 Jan 14, 2009
ooof.
close to the situation

Layton, UT

#12 Jan 14, 2009
Being close to the situation and knowing the boarder, the manager and the families, I can say that this is a tragic accident. John is hardly reckless and the manager is hardly reckless, they are both good men. Bad timing and perhaps a bad route for snowmobiles to take up the mountain. The two gentlemen are friends making it all the more difficult to deal with. I would be hesitant to blame anyone here, there are plenty of lawyers on both sides already making their cases. I will say that I a bit ashamed of Tim Vetter's comments. Tim knew exactly who was operating the snowmobile and minimizing the event by saying it happens all the time is shameful. Tim should keep his mouth shut and Mike Goar should too. I spent a few minutes with John today and I can say that his road to recovery will be long, challenging and painful for him and his wife. The injuries are serious and has left a man without feeling, without movement, two crushed vertebrae, a hole in his knee, broken ankle, infections, internal bleeding and only hope on his side. If that's not enough to keep your blame game to yourselves, then god help you.. John is determined to beat this and walk out of the hospital someday soon. God bless you bro... As for Pat, your report is accurate. thx
blank

Salt Lake City, UT

#13 Jan 14, 2009
you need to know the whole story before you just assume that the driver is at fault. skiers and snowboarders are known for going very fast and sometimes out of control. If you read into the matter the driver was in fact driving where he was supposed to be and within the required speed. Not to say it was not the drivers fault but i would not think that blame should be put automatically on the driver in this particular case.
Mountain Local

South Jordan, UT

#14 Jan 14, 2009
So the first sentence in a "news" story quotes the attorney. Nice Pat. The Park Record has a hack for a reporter.
Death mountain

Salt Lake City, UT

#15 Jan 15, 2009
The constant change in ownership/managment and constant financial troubles the canyons has been in ever since its conception has lead to below average guest service. As well as below average training for their employees and a higher than normal employee turnover ratio, and a very high number of deaths at the resort. Whether its lifts breaking down for hours, inexperienced ski patrol opening rocky terrain before they should, inbound avalanches, out of bounds avalanches started by people acessing those areas through the canyons, slow response time of inexpeienced ski patrol, ski patrol going on strike, severely underrmaned lift maintenance staffs, employees on snowmobiles running into people, etc, etc, etc...(i could go on for days) speaking as a former employee of the canyons, and somone who has been skiing/riding there since the days of "Park West", "Wolf Mountain"and now "The Canyons" I have never felt safe riding that mountain, there is some great terrain there, but the number of "Accidents" and Deaths speak for themselves...
facts to support claims

Park City, UT

#16 Jan 16, 2009
Speaking directly to Death Mountain. If you don't feel safe at The Canyons, why do you still go back. Where are your statistical facts to support your claims and accusations. I have been to a large number of resorts througout the country and from my observations The Canyons operates the same as or better than most resorts, safety wise. Guest Service wise, they may not have the prettiest buildings, but their operators, ski patrol, bellmen, food service (maybe not the food itself) is as good as any other. I was just at a resort in Little Cottonwood and just to speak to snowmobiles, their operators were driving at a very high rate of speed and no helmets. How does that make you feel? I for one feel as safe at The Canyons as any other resort. If you are so scared to be at The Canyons then leave the mountain to the reset of us. I would call you an idiot, but I don't have any facts other than your statement to back it up. Keep unsupportive and unproductive thoughts to yourself.
Matt

Longview, TX

#17 Jan 16, 2009
Keep fighting! I love you man.

Your Brother.
Talisker is evil

Salt Lake City, UT

#18 Jan 16, 2009
and elitist, in addition their lawyers are overworked...
and if you don't know, now you know
Truth be told

Salt Lake City, UT

#19 Jan 16, 2009
Death mountain wrote:
The constant change in ownership/managment and constant financial troubles the canyons has been in ever since its conception has lead to below average guest service. As well as below average training for their employees and a higher than normal employee turnover ratio, and a very high number of deaths at the resort. Whether its lifts breaking down for hours, inexperienced ski patrol opening rocky terrain before they should, inbound avalanches, out of bounds avalanches started by people acessing those areas through the canyons, slow response time of inexpeienced ski patrol, ski patrol going on strike, severely underrmaned lift maintenance staffs, employees on snowmobiles running into people, etc, etc, etc...(i could go on for days) speaking as a former employee of the canyons, and somone who has been skiing/riding there since the days of "Park West", "Wolf Mountain"and now "The Canyons" I have never felt safe riding that mountain, there is some great terrain there, but the number of "Accidents" and Deaths speak for themselves...
I agree. The Canyons is the bad new bears of ski resorts.
been there

Salt Lake City, UT

#20 Jan 16, 2009
first hand I have been there. And I have worked at other resorts. The Canyons is scary. They do not pay attention to safety concerns like they should. Ask any excperienced ski area employee.

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