To some, Lehigh Valley charter school...

To some, Lehigh Valley charter school's ice skating class gives...

There are 166 comments on the The Morning Call story from Jan 25, 2009, titled To some, Lehigh Valley charter school's ice skating class gives.... In it, The Morning Call reports that:

On the banks of the Lehigh River in south Bethlehem is a public school classroom that may be unlike any other in America.

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Sally G

Reading, PA

#1 Jan 25, 2009
It seems like an awful lot of taxpayer money to make would-be skaters feel good about themselves. Didn't think that was the purpose of a charter school - and it certainly doesn't seem consistent with what is reported as audition-based admissions. It's more than disturbing the proportion of money going to this program rather than basic educational expenses at the school.
From Bethlehem

Philadelphia, PA

#2 Jan 25, 2009
A ridiculous waste of our tax money. BASD, on Jan 26, is proposing a measure that would force local sports programs for ALL our school districts kids into paying for time to use OUR GYMS that WE pay for with taxes in the first place. Our kids are also going without adequate bus service to various trips and there are rumors of reducing bus service further. All the while this select group of families gets free ice skating lessons instead of learning subjects that would actually get their kids jobs.

Dr Lewis, maybe you need a new job?
Storm

Catasauqua, PA

#3 Jan 25, 2009
Charter School was legislation that came through when Ridge was Gov.-- enough said about that topic except to add that was another way to talk down public education.
Blah

Schnecksville, PA

#4 Jan 25, 2009
From Bethlehem wrote:
A ridiculous waste of our tax money. BASD, on Jan 26, is proposing a measure that would force local sports programs for ALL our school districts kids into paying for time to use OUR GYMS that WE pay for with taxes in the first place. Our kids are also going without adequate bus service to various trips and there are rumors of reducing bus service further. All the while this select group of families gets free ice skating lessons instead of learning subjects that would actually get their kids jobs.
Dr Lewis, maybe you need a new job?
Based on what you said; then lets get rid of football too. I'm all for it. Unpopular choice eh?

Actually school sports should be parent funded. Afterall, school funded sports only caters to the few, not the all.

Too much emphasis on footballs and not enough on education. With few exceptions, this is why we have schools full of idiots.
Liberal_Elite

Fogelsville, PA

#6 Jan 25, 2009
From Bethlehem wrote:
A ridiculous waste of our tax money. BASD, on Jan 26, is proposing a measure that would force local sports programs for ALL our school districts kids into paying for time to use OUR GYMS that WE pay for with taxes in the first place. Our kids are also going without adequate bus service to various trips and there are rumors of reducing bus service further. All the while this select group of families gets free ice skating lessons instead of learning subjects that would actually get their kids jobs.
Dr Lewis, maybe you need a new job?
First of all, Lewis or the Bethlehem taxpayers have no say in how the monies are spent. Hence, one of the huge complaints against charter schools. It's one thing if they could fill the class, but they are obviously not training Olympians. Public schools, who must give money to these institutions, do not have the luxury of providing electives such as these.
MacUngie

Emmaus, PA

#7 Jan 25, 2009
Wow - Norbert, I thought you might be here again as you are the perennial LVPA basher. Please keep the vitriol to a minimum.

Not every program is for every student and LVPA has consistently done well at all measures as defined by the State and the NCLB Act within the academic environment as well as placed students at some of the finest performing arts colleges in the country. There is hard data to support these FACTS unlike most of the 'reporting' in this article.

I believe bringing the arts to everyone is not a privilege but something that schools like LVPA do well and are needed.

Casual Observer

Glenolden, PA

#8 Jan 25, 2009
Blah wrote:
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Based on what you said; then lets get rid of football too. I'm all for it. Unpopular choice eh?
Actually school sports should be parent funded. Afterall, school funded sports only caters to the few, not the all.
Too much emphasis on footballs and not enough on education. With few exceptions, this is why we have schools full of idiots.
Agreed. Marching bands have to go as well, when was the last time you heard of anyone making a career out of marching in parades? Orchestra can stay, that's a legitimate career option.

Time to trim everything that isn't related to 'education'.

After all, that's the biggest failing in our Country right now.
Norbert

Bethlehem, PA

#9 Jan 25, 2009
Let's not forget, this is the school that ended world hunger!
LVPA's time is running out.
BASD Parent

Bethlehem, PA

#10 Jan 25, 2009
LVPA provides a valid alternative to the traditional high school experience.

Let it live!
Fighter88

United States

#11 Jan 25, 2009
Norbert wrote:
The performing arts school should be closed. It has failed, it is poorly run and it is beset by conflicts of interest.
On the other hand, a couple graduates do have a shot at jobs with ``The Jeffersons on Ice.''
A good and useful story. This is what local papers are supposed to do, not have endless stories involving staff members debating which team will win.
This so-called academy has been a boondoggle and waste from day one. Close it NOW!
As noted before, it is like the school in fame, only without the talent or accomplished teachers.
The charter school is doing a great job in many areas of the arts - to say it has failed shows either your ignorance or your prejudice. The education and training has prepared many students for life in and out of the arts - I know a few who have gone there. The quality of the programs is very high.
Sally G

Reading, PA

#12 Jan 25, 2009
In principle it's a good thing to support the arts particularly for highly talented students. These students must take the PSSA and so the schools are held to standards of academic achievement. It is taxpayer money, though. The school seems to be relaxing admission standards for these programs so that students can be placed IN them rather than truly identifying and meeting the needs of those who are highly talented.

My mother paid for piano lessons for this less-than-gifted musician. I made progress. But the taxpayers didn't - and shouldn't - pay for it.
Norbert

Bethlehem, PA

#13 Jan 25, 2009
The school is not about achieving excellence, nor can it take credit for those who have gone on to performing arts colleges. The truly talented would have gone forward anyway and have learned just from the struggle.
What LVPA has become is a haven for students who feel different and for employees who are not at the top of their fields. The first need in particular may be deeply felt by some youngsters but it is not enough reason to spend taxpayers' money.
There must be talent, not just a feeling of ostracism or victimhood. Ask anybody in the NYC theater/dance scene about how certain personalities, sexual preferences, ethnicities try to enter the field. Being different is not enough.
LVPA -- on the way out!
jalskdfjslka

Philadelphia, PA

#14 Jan 25, 2009
So, if apparently we all who attend LVPA are not going to get good jobs, then how to most of the seniors who graduated went onto an Ivy league school, eh?

Since: Mar 07

Harleysville, PA

#15 Jan 25, 2009
In the new world economy, there will be tremendous demand for artists, and especially figure skaters.

WTF is wrong with the parents of these kids?
Sally G

Reading, PA

#16 Jan 25, 2009
jalskdfjslka wrote:
So, if apparently we all who attend LVPA are not going to get good jobs, then how to most of the seniors who graduated went onto an Ivy league school, eh?
The point of the article was that taxpayers are paying for programs that do not seem to be within the philosophical intention of a charter school for the arts. Figure skating with fancy trimmings for the merely interested should not be paid for by the taxpayer.
jalskdfjslka

Philadelphia, PA

#17 Jan 25, 2009
Do you wanna get skates on? Do you really wanna know how much we work when we skate? Do you want to see all the bruises we have all over our body from falling out of big double jumps? Just come on over to the rink, we'll show you.

We have extremely high level skaters at this school, one from another country and another from another state who wouldn't of had this skating experience if it weren't for our school and they work their butts off.
Except

Northampton, PA

#18 Jan 25, 2009
MacUngie wrote:
Wow - Norbert, I thought you might be here again as you are the perennial LVPA basher. Please keep the vitriol to a minimum.
Not every program is for every student and LVPA has consistently done well at all measures as defined by the State and the NCLB Act within the academic environment as well as placed students at some of the finest performing arts colleges in the country. There is hard data to support these FACTS unlike most of the 'reporting' in this article.
I believe bringing the arts to everyone is not a privilege but something that schools like LVPA do well and are needed.
Wow.
If the ice skating program is so great and the academics so excellent, why is Swantek's offspring enrolled at Moravian Academy?
Sally G

Reading, PA

#19 Jan 25, 2009
jalskdfjslka wrote:
Do you wanna get skates on? Do you really wanna know how much we work when we skate? Do you want to see all the bruises we have all over our body from falling out of big double jumps? Just come on over to the rink, we'll show you.
We have extremely high level skaters at this school, one from another country and another from another state who wouldn't of had this skating experience if it weren't for our school and they work their butts off.
You seem to be interpreting the issue as a personal attack on skaters, skating, or a dismissal of your bruises. It is not. No one is denying that skaters work hard or is saying that you shouldn't skate. Many people work hard at what they do.

The article is suggesting that the level of support the charter school supplies for interested skaters is more than the taxpayers should be expected to support. In particular, the complaint is that the skaters placed in this program were not identified as uniquely talented, but were put INTO the skating program because they did not successfully audition for something else.
Funny

Harleysville, PA

#20 Jan 25, 2009
jalskdfjslka wrote:
So, if apparently we all who attend LVPA are not going to get good jobs, then how to most of the seniors who graduated went onto an Ivy league school, eh?
Looks like the LVPA school could use better English classes.
Oh really

AOL

#21 Jan 25, 2009
Sally G you are absolutely correct in your interpretation of the article. To be accepted at a charter school in any program at the "pre-preliminary" stage is ludicrous. Heck, I guess I can get accepted at my skill level!

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