Antioch residents aren't fine with winery proposal

May 24, 2012 Full story: Daily Herald 35

Despite opposition from some residents, Antioch officials are moving forward in a review of a request to build a winery on unincorporated land and annex it into the village.

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Antioch Res

United States

#21 May 25, 2012
NIMBY Nut wrote:
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You must be her daddy. She's wayward, you're whacked out. And a lunatic. You think there is only one person posting here that thinks Obama is a train wreck? Delusional is no way to go thru life.
There ya go proving her point once again! I do love her, yes I do.
NIMBY Nut

Spring Grove, IL

#22 May 25, 2012
Antioch Res wrote:
<quoted text>There ya go proving her point once again! I do love her, yes I do.
I knew it! Gotta love myopia. See you at the winery. I'm buying!

Since: Jan 12

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#23 May 31, 2012
OMG! After reading these posts I definitely need a glass, make it a double.
Still Watching

Salem, WI

#24 May 31, 2012
WaywardDaughter wrote:
OMG! After reading these posts I definitely need a glass, make it a double.
Oh boy, better watch it. The same 2-3 goofs that post with different names are going to start attacking you as one of the old crowd. May even start to call you Dorothy. You go girl. I gave up. That's the plan, keep attacking until you go away even though you state you won't play the game. Now I just "drop a bomb and run" as they say.
Mystery Man

Fox Lake, IL

#25 Jun 1, 2012
A good red wine with a juicy porterhouse steak and a huge helping of mash potato with gravy what could be better ?
Antioch Res

United States

#26 Jun 7, 2012
Yeah, ive gots multiple personalities and im currently taking meds to control this situation. Trust me, its no fun being an unemployed redneck felon with multiple personalties. You should see my box of rocks wife. Together we make quite the team. Have a great day ya'll

Since: Mar 12

Hampton, VA

#27 Jun 7, 2012
Just a question on the location of the Winery. North of 173 on Crawford road is pretty far east of the village? If the land is annexed into the villiage that means everything between Crawford road and the current eastern limit of the villiage will be annexed right? If I remember corretly from the many years(38) I lived in Antioch right on Main street, there is the Villiage of Antioch and a Township. This affects the taxes for the land owners in the unincorporated area being annexed in. Also if you build anything that will draw more traffic to the area no matter the size it affects the people living in tht area. It sounds like they live in unincorporated Lake County because they like the country living with it's peaceful tranquility. Don't they have a right to their peace and quite? At least have the right to have their concerns heard? I read the article and see they will have 6 parking spaces and propose to be open early evenings and during the day on weekends. Only allow 6 tastings per visit which amounts to a glass. It will not be like sitting in a bar and consuming large amounts. Depending on the proposed annex area, this could affect the taxes of residents living around the property which we all know would benefit the village in gained money so they are all for it. Let's at least consider the people that have probably lived there for many years by choice and cost before you let the village's greed get in the way.
Antioch person

Mchenry, IL

#28 Jun 7, 2012
can't we just stay on the topic? What does Obama have to do with the winery in Antioch? Why do we always have to resort to name calling, etc.?
Mystery Man

Fox Lake, IL

#29 Jun 7, 2012
commish1955 wrote:
Just a question on the location of the Winery. North of 173 on Crawford road is pretty far east of the village? If the land is annexed into the villiage that means everything between Crawford road and the current eastern limit of the villiage will be annexed right? If I remember corretly from the many years(38) I lived in Antioch right on Main street, there is the Villiage of Antioch and a Township. This affects the taxes for the land owners in the unincorporated area being annexed in. Also if you build anything that will draw more traffic to the area no matter the size it affects the people living in tht area. It sounds like they live in unincorporated Lake County because they like the country living with it's peaceful tranquility. Don't they have a right to their peace and quite? At least have the right to have their concerns heard? I read the article and see they will have 6 parking spaces and propose to be open early evenings and during the day on weekends. Only allow 6 tastings per visit which amounts to a glass. It will not be like sitting in a bar and consuming large amounts. Depending on the proposed annex area, this could affect the taxes of residents living around the property which we all know would benefit the village in gained money so they are all for it. Let's at least consider the people that have probably lived there for many years by choice and cost before you let the village's greed get in the way.
I got lost in all your questions.
I think what you're trying to point out is that some people will see their taxes go up since they will now be part of the town.
I don't have a lot of sympathy for them.
They have been getting fire and police protection, school usage, and whatever other benefits tax payers who live in the town paid for while they haven't paid as much.
So if their taxes do go up welcome to our world.

Since: Oct 11

Antioch, IL

#30 Jun 7, 2012
commish1955 wrote:
Just a question on the location of the Winery. North of 173 on Crawford road is pretty far east of the village? If the land is annexed into the villiage that means everything between Crawford road and the current eastern limit of the villiage will be annexed right? If I remember corretly from the many years(38) I lived in Antioch right on Main street, there is the Villiage of Antioch and a Township. This affects the taxes for the land owners in the unincorporated area being annexed in. Also if you build anything that will draw more traffic to the area no matter the size it affects the people living in tht area. It sounds like they live in unincorporated Lake County because they like the country living with it's peaceful tranquility. Don't they have a right to their peace and quite? At least have the right to have their concerns heard? I read the article and see they will have 6 parking spaces and propose to be open early evenings and during the day on weekends. Only allow 6 tastings per visit which amounts to a glass. It will not be like sitting in a bar and consuming large amounts. Depending on the proposed annex area, this could affect the taxes of residents living around the property which we all know would benefit the village in gained money so they are all for it. Let's at least consider the people that have probably lived there for many years by choice and cost before you let the village's greed get in the way.
I think this is a valid point, and one that I made before the lunatics escaped the asylum. I can't speak for them, but I wonder that a big part of their issue is the fact that they don't want to be annexed. My understanding is that taxes aren't necessarily much lower, and they are assessed for the use of fire services. APD doesn't handle the township, Lake County Sheriff does. BUT - by being in the township you escape a lot of the restrictive regulations of being in the village (permits, parking regulations, yada yada yada). If I chose to live in the township, I would not want to be annexed into the village to accomodate someone else. If that's their argument - and I don't know that it is and don't have enough vested interest to get further involved - I think it's valid.

Since: Mar 12

Hampton, VA

#31 Jun 8, 2012
Mystery Man wrote:
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I got lost in all your questions.
I think what you're trying to point out is that some people will see their taxes go up since they will now be part of the town.
I don't have a lot of sympathy for them.
They have been getting fire and police protection, school usage, and whatever other benefits tax payers who live in the town paid for while they haven't paid as much.
So if their taxes do go up welcome to our world.
As stated by News Reader 2011, unincorporated areas of the county are policed by the County Sheriff which County residents due pay for.
People that live in the Township pay for Fire coverage already.
Snow removal has village coverage and township coverage. If you live outside these areas you are covered by the County.(just an example of the differences and they pay accordingly.)
The people live in an area choosen by them for the reasons they determined were good for them.
This has nothing to do with sympathy but a desire for the prople affected to have their concerns heard and allowed to VOTE on the issues affecting them.
Do you have facts that says the people do not pay for fire and police protection, school usage. If I remember correctly the school districts are maped to areas and not village/township boundaries. If you live in one district but send you children to another you pay additional tuition costs. There is no free ride anywhere so what I see the issue is, do the people in this area want to be annexed into the village or not due to the village wanting the tax revenue from the winery. Should be there right to say yes or no.
Facts

Spring Grove, IL

#32 Jun 9, 2012
Facts and comments

Comment

This is more a neighborhood dispute than anything else.

Facts

Only the petitioners property would be annexed.

The west line of the petitioners 10 acre property abuts the Village of Antioch (Antioch Corporate Center land which is in the Village).

Many neighbors there run businesses, including a bee farm and even stables for horse owners.

The petitioner would continue to receive full services from the Village, and through cooperative arrangements, with the township and county

The winery would mostly hidden several hundred feet west of Edwards Road.

A winery would enhance Antioch's reputation and desirability as a destination.
Mystery Man

Round Lake, IL

#33 Jun 10, 2012
commish1955 wrote:
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As stated by News Reader 2011, unincorporated areas of the county are policed by the County Sheriff which County residents due pay for.
People that live in the Township pay for Fire coverage already.
Snow removal has village coverage and township coverage. If you live outside these areas you are covered by the County.(just an example of the differences and they pay accordingly.)
The people live in an area choosen by them for the reasons they determined were good for them.
This has nothing to do with sympathy but a desire for the prople affected to have their concerns heard and allowed to VOTE on the issues affecting them.
Do you have facts that says the people do not pay for fire and police protection, school usage. If I remember correctly the school districts are maped to areas and not village/township boundaries. If you live in one district but send you children to another you pay additional tuition costs. There is no free ride anywhere so what I see the issue is, do the people in this area want to be annexed into the village or not due to the village wanting the tax revenue from the winery. Should be there right to say yes or no.
I don't live in Antioch so i didn't know for sure who pays for what.
But i do live in Fox Lake.
And i have for a fact seen the Fox Lake police and fire dept respond to unincorporated Ingleside many times.
And i also know they do NOT pay more for that service.
Also for years they gotten a free ride on other items such as village stickers for their cars.
So while you may be right no one in the Antioch is getting a free ride there are and always have been free rides in my area.
Confused

United States

#35 Jun 10, 2012
What's this? A useful and informative discussion about the topic without an Obama slam in recent days? Where am I?
Taxed to desth

United States

#36 Jun 10, 2012
Confused wrote:
What's this? A useful and informative discussion about the topic without an Obama slam in recent days? Where am I?
Only democrats are posting here. All 12 of us in Antioch.

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