That's right, I forgot that Florida was founded in 1971. It's not like there was already a city of Orlando, a city of Jacksonville, Tampa or a little known city of Miami before then. Nahhhh. I guess I forgot that everyone living in Miami lives there because they want to be 3 hours away from Disney. Maybe you should check your history books again before you think that Disney put Florida "on the map". All they did was pump some tourism dollars into one Florida market which was growing anyway. Maybe I'm asking for too much from someone who doesn't know anything about Florida besides what exit to use to get off of I-4 for their hotel.And besides, if we didn't have these parks here, you can bet Florida would be a dead state, just like Oklahoma or Iowa. Where are those states again?
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#45 Feb 7, 2009
#46 Feb 7, 2009
Amazing how the people who overinflate the impact of Disney on the Orlando/Florida economy live in other states.... and are only in this talkback because it was an article about theme parks in Orlando. I wouldn't for a minute think these tourist's opinions of Florida represent the masses.
#47 Feb 10, 2009
Amazing how few truely recognize the widespread economic impact of the theme parks. Everyone employed, now matter how little or how much they make, have to live somewhere, eat food, have transportation, etc. That means grocery stores, banks, gas stations, housing and everyone employed by those places and so on down the line. Its a trickle down effect. Below is some information from a study back in 2004. If you don't think Orlando would be effected much beyond a few hotels and restaurants in and around Disney, you're all sadly mistaken.
The Fishkind & Associates study was done by compiling data using a popular economic model called the RIMS II Regional Input-Output Modeling System to calculate the indirect economic impact of Disney's payroll and customer spending, and its related impact on government and other businesses.
Few would argue against the theory that tourism is the region's most important industry and that Disney is the king of that particular hill. It directly employs more than 49,000 people at Walt Disney World, making the company the largest single-site employer in the United States.
In addition, another 14,000 people work at the Disney site for third-party hotel operators, restaurants and other activities, with 1,200 more working at Celebration in Osceola County. That means Disney employed more than 65,000 people in 2003.
The study also shows there are another 46,000 jobs indirectly generated by Disney in the area, totaling more than 111,000 people whose weekly paycheck is dependent on Walt Disney World.
Those paychecks bring $2.9 billion into the area's revenue stream. In addition, the total value of goods and services purchased in Central Florida directly and indirectly is $5.1 billion, making Disney's Central Florida combined economic
impact $8 billion.
Fishkind says, taxes generated for local government on Disney property, paid into resort tax fees and school levies, far exceed the cost of those services -- leaving area counties with a tax surplus that offsets taxes that would otherwise have to be paid by individuals and other businesses. Using the number of households in the Orlando MSA, the Fishkind study says Disney's taxes offset $476 in local taxes that would otherwise be paid by individual households.
#48 Feb 11, 2009
poboy is the man!!! I think that we should nationalize all theme parks and let all the low lifes that don't work in for free. Then double or even better yet triple the admissiion price for those that actually work. Then when theres no money left to pay the employees and maitain the park we can bail them out. This will create jobs because without the bialout the park employees would be out of work. Welcome to Obamanation economics. Oh, and I think its a good thing that they are lowering the admission prices!
poboy for president in 2012
#49 Mar 13, 2009
Timekeeper, you're neglecting to factor in how many of the 49,000 employed at Disney are college program employees from other colleges in America, or international employees. Trust me, I'm speaking both from experience working for Disney and as an academic researcher- the amount of impact on the economy from entry level service employees is negligible compared to the impact of only a few skilled technical workers, such as those employed for NASA in Cape Canaveral, and the growing medical institutions in the area. UCF boasts one of the nation's finest engineering programs-- there are plenty of ways Orlando is impacting the entire nation that aren't covered on DIsney's brochures.
Also, your arguments confuse the impact of employees on the economy versus the impact of tourists on the economy. While I argued the latter in my last message, I'm certainly willing to argue the sooner with you as well. Disney has much less of a contribution to the economy by design- research the impressive economic incentives/structure offered to Disney by our politians back in the 70's. Disney circumvents local planners as they are in essence their own municipality. As a result, less money is contributed back to the economy than say, Universal studios, or retailers situated alongside International drive. When you, however, factor in the fact that DIsney is going to new lengths (e.g., direct free buses from MCO to Disney property) to keep guests on property and to NOT frequent retailers down the road, well, you see my point why Disney is less important to the Orlando economy than you're claiming. It is true that it is likely Disney encouraged the growth of the area (which I argue would have eventually happenned anyway, by the way), but nowadays I'm sure Orlando would be just fine if Disney were to shutter its resort. That point is irrelevant, as I doubt it's going anywhere. But, as a proud Florida resident, I don't need your neglible tourist taxes to receive my next paycheck.
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