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Trump readies for Putin face-to-face in Finland

There are 116 comments on the Dorsetecho.co.uk story from Jul 16, 2018, titled Trump readies for Putin face-to-face in Finland. In it, Dorsetecho.co.uk reports that:

Donald Trump will meet Vladimir Putin amid fraying Western alliances and developments in the investigation into Russian meddling in the US presidential election. The meeting has already been condemned by members of Congress from both parties after the US indictment last week of 12 Russian military intelligence officers accused of hacking Democrats in the 2016 election to help Mr Trump's presidential campaign.

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Cordwainer Trout

Owensboro, KY

#1 Jul 16, 2018
The summit took place. The news conference took place. The foreign media asked pertinent questions of the two world leaders expressing hope and constructive interaction for the future. The U.S. media once again shamed the profession and our country with anti-Trump insinuations and assertions. They are seen a joke.
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#2 Jul 16, 2018
FYI:
Mr. President, England is a country. And the United Kingdom is a sovereign state consisting of four individual countries: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. And Great Britain is an island comprised of the countries of England, Scotland and Wales.Croatia is across the Adriatic Sea from Italy ... got it? Hope that helps.
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#3 Jul 16, 2018
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The summit took place. The news conference took place. The foreign media asked pertinent questions of the two world leaders expressing hope and constructive interaction for the future. The U.S. media once again shamed the profession and our country with anti-Trump insinuations and assertions. They are seen a joke.
Really? What were you watching?
Cordwainer Trout

Owensboro, KY

#5 Jul 16, 2018
Kilroy wrote:
Trump standing at this summit saying he believe Putin repeating what he said a year ago
Yet American intelligence says otherwise and points to Russian intelligence agencies as doing the hacking
Trumps summit may well make the case for
Collusion
You're an insane liar. Trump's diplomatic skills said he had great respect and confidence in U.S. intelligence agencies, yet Putin denied in the strongest terms any knowledge of such meddling. That's all he said. Putin said the existent treaty between our countries should rule and that getting to the truth must be had in court. This will once again establish that our intelligence statements are unable to sustain the indictments, because they have never had access to the many servers the DNC, associated conspirators and Hillary destroyed years ago. Obama's refusal to investigate any Russian meddling would have interfered with the DNC, Hillary's and Obama's collusion to destroy necessary evidence.
USA Today

Milwaukee, WI

#7 Jul 16, 2018
It's about time the two leaders of the world's most powerful nations met. As for the endless chirping from Democrats about "Russia Meddling...," we've sadly found out we cannot trust our highest security entities--the FBI and the CIA, now that it's been revealed there was an undercover conspiracy to prevent Trump from becoming president. And it's time for the anti-Trump "clique" to finally step aside and let the president do his job.
Say What

Dalton, GA

#8 Jul 16, 2018
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The summit took place. The news conference took place. The foreign media asked pertinent questions of the two world leaders expressing hope and constructive interaction for the future. The U.S. media once again shamed the profession and our country with anti-Trump insinuations and assertions. They are seen a joke.
u need to move to Russia u traitor
Faith

United States

#9 Jul 16, 2018
Spocko wrote:
FYI:
And Great Britain is an island ...
Before you raise your poopstained finger to others, you better get your facts straight, imbecile!
Great Britain is an ARCHIPELAGO, not "an island", sht-fer-brains !
Jesus Latter Day Taints

Philadelphia, PA

#10 Jul 16, 2018
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
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You're an insane liar. Trump's diplomatic skills said he had great respect and confidence in U.S. intelligence agencies, yet Putin denied in the strongest terms any knowledge of such meddling. That's all he said. Putin said the existent treaty between our countries should rule and that getting to the truth must be had in court. This will once again establish that our intelligence statements are unable to sustain the indictments, because they have never had access to the many servers the DNC, associated conspirators and Hillary destroyed years ago. Obama's refusal to investigate any Russian meddling would have interfered with the DNC, Hillary's and Obama's collusion to destroy necessary evidence.
It was crystal clear.

Putin stated there are no actual facts regarding Russian interference in the election (a claim I am more likely to believe than not.)

Ill Duce Trump was then asked point blank who he believes - US intel or Putin. Ill Duce Trump replied that all he can do is "ask Putin about Russia's actions" while noting Putin's "strong and powerful" denials while mouthing his bit about great confidence in US intel.

That is a repudiation of US intel claims by Ill Duce Trump, if by omission or deflection. The answer is not consistent with having "great confidence" in the US military industrial secrecy complex claims. Ill Duce Trump then immediately launched a verbal attack on the FBI and on the Justice Dept. probe headed by Mueller. Those are aspects of the intelligence community. It is not having great confidence in the FBI when you are attacking the FBI in front of Putin at a press conference.

An answer consistent with great confidence in those (supposed) findings by the intelligence community (that he just attacked) would be to directly challenge Putin's claim that there are no actual facts.

Everyone can understand this. And the headlines are correct, for example, in saying, "Trump Denies Election Interference During Press Conference" or "Trump defends Putin from claims of election interference" or "Trump Avoids Rebuking Putin on Election Interference."
Faith

United States

#13 Jul 16, 2018
Jesus Latter Day Taints wrote:
<quoted text>

It was crystal clear.

Putin stated there are no actual facts regarding Russian interference in the election (a claim I am more likely to believe than not.)

Ill Duce Trump was then asked point blank who he believes - US intel or Putin. Ill Duce Trump replied that all he can do is "ask Putin about Russia's actions" while noting Putin's "strong and powerful" denials while mouthing his bit about great confidence in US intel.

That is a repudiation of US intel claims by Ill Duce Trump, if by omission or deflection. The answer is not consistent with having "great confidence" in the US military industrial secrecy complex claims. Ill Duce Trump then immediately launched a verbal attack on the FBI and on the Justice Dept. probe headed by Mueller. Those are aspects of the intelligence community. It is not having great confidence in the FBI when you are attacking the FBI in front of Putin at a press conference.

An answer consistent with great confidence in those (supposed) findings by the intelligence community (that he just attacked) would be to directly challenge Putin's claim that there are no actual facts.

Everyone can understand this. And the headlines are correct, for example, in saying, "Trump Denies Election Interference During Press Conference" or "Trump defends Putin from claims of election interference" or "Trump Avoids Rebuking Putin on Election Interference."
Fck off, nutless weasel.
And get a job, parasite of society !
Cordwainer Trout

Owensboro, KY

#14 Jul 16, 2018
Jesus Latter Day Taints wrote:
It was crystal clear.
<clipped>
You have no respect for diplomacy if done by Trump. In fact, you obviously don't understand diplomacy. You can mumble on with a bunch of avoidance rhetoric, but you clearly stated "But Ill Duce Trump pretty much denied any "Russian hacking" took place at all ...", which is patently false. All of both responses from him and Putin, clearly adhered to existent treaties between our countries and spoke specifically of establishing the truth through treaty imposed processes, to which Mueller was even invited. The indictments are hollow and without the evidence of the DNC, Hillary and DNC Pakistani hire servers, which have disappeared and to which the Mueller team of Democrats have never seen and which have never been available to any intelligence source. Still, Trump in diplomatic language, said he has confidence in the intelligence community. His only disclaimer is to the sleeper Democrats using those agencies for political purposes.
Jesus Latter Day Taints

Philadelphia, PA

#15 Jul 16, 2018
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
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The indictments are hollow
I'm not talking about the indictments of the "12 Russians" or about "Russian hacking." The point I am addressing is Ill Duce Trump's position:

He blamed Obama for allowing the claimed Russian hacking.

He says publicly that all he can do is ask Putin about Russia's activities and note Putin's strong denials. That is a repudiation of US intel...which contradicts Ill Duce Trump's blaming the phenomenon which he denies on Obama.

There are plenty of ways for world leaders to say they reject the position of their counterpart. You're making things up again.
Cordwainer Trout

Owensboro, KY

#16 Jul 16, 2018
Jesus Latter Day Taints wrote:
I'm not talking about the indictments of the "12 Russians" or about "Russian hacking." The point I am addressing is Ill Duce Trump's position:
<clipped>
There are plenty of ways for world leaders to say they reject the position of their counterpart. You're making things up again.
Don't blame me for your own indignities. Contrarily to your assertion, Trump only blames Obama for not investigating alleged Russian hacking. That is due to Obama's obvious collusion with the DNC, the DNC's Pakistani hire and Hillary disallowing any intelligence agency any access to their servers. You seem to believe that Trump is obligated to assume the false narratives of Leftist seditionists and interlopers in foreign policy. His superior intelligence refuses your assumption that he has to admit all your false narratives and embrace the jingoism of the Left.

“Watching The Snowflakes Rant”

Since: Feb 17

Location hidden

#17 Jul 16, 2018
Spocko wrote:
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Really? What were you watching?
Liberal heads exploding when they didn't get their ignorant demands met.........Trump wins again.

“Watching The Snowflakes Rant”

Since: Feb 17

Location hidden

#18 Jul 16, 2018
Jesus Latter Day Taints wrote:
<quoted text>

I'm not talking about the indictments of the "12 Russians" or about "Russian hacking." The point I am addressing is Ill Duce Trump's position:

He blamed Obama for allowing the claimed Russian hacking.

He says publicly that all he can do is ask Putin about Russia's activities and note Putin's strong denials. That is a repudiation of US intel...which contradicts Ill Duce Trump's blaming the phenomenon which he denies on Obama.

There are plenty of ways for world leaders to say they reject the position of their counterpart. You're making things up again.
Obama knew about the hacking two years before the election and did nothing. His lack of action is more proof of the flexibility Obama promised Putin on an open mic.
Jesus Latter Day Taints

Philadelphia, PA

#19 Jul 16, 2018
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
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Don't blame me for your own indignities. Contrarily to your assertion, Trump only blames Obama for not investigating alleged Russian hacking. That is due to Obama's obvious collusion with the DNC, the DNC's Pakistani hire and Hillary disallowing any intelligence agency any access to their servers. You seem to believe that Trump is obligated to assume the false narratives of Leftist seditionists and interlopers in foreign policy. His superior intelligence refuses your assumption that he has to admit all your false narratives and embrace the jingoism of the Left.
Jul 14, 2018 President Trump responded Saturday to the Justice Department's indictment of 12 Russian military officers for hacking into Democratic campaign files by questioning why President Obama failed to stop the intrusion in 2016.
The right wing moonie paper makes it perfectly clear. Ill Duce Trump is blaming Obama for not responding aggressively to or investigating a phenomenon which Ill Duce Trump has denied many, many times before even occurred. Now Ill Duce Trump is being a little more nuanced on whether "Russian hacking" ever happened, saying while he has high confidence in US intelligence - when he's not busy attacking the FBI - all he can do is ask Putin about Russia's activities and note Putin's strong denials.

This is all self contradictory on Ill Duce Trump's part, obviously.

"Jul 14, 2018 President Trump responded Saturday to the Justice Department's indictment of 12 Russian military officers for hacking into Democratic campaign files by questioning why President Obama failed to stop the intrusion in 2016."
washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jul/14/trump-sa...
Jesus Latter Day Taints

Philadelphia, PA

#20 Jul 16, 2018
CodeTalker wrote:
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Obama knew about the hacking two years before the election and did nothing. His lack of action is more proof of the flexibility Obama promised Putin on an open mic.
And that is another baseless attack on Obama, my point, because now, after denying "Russian hacking" for years, Ill Duce Trump _just said_ all he can do is ask Putin about Russia's activities and note Putin's strong denials.

While Ill Duce Trump is attacking Obama for Obama not doing anything about the "Russian hacking." Obama didn't respond to it, quoth Ill Duce Trump, but all Ill Duce Trump can do is ask Putin and note Putin's strong denials....

I know it's a difficult thing for you to recognize right wing nonsense.
Cordwainer Trout

Owensboro, KY

#21 Jul 16, 2018
Trump has been misquoted even in this current debate here and in the Democrat biased and other confused responses, by you and them.

Apparently, you mean criticizing the Democrat operatives in the intelligence agencies, who are on record with Pravda on the Potomac as leaking and performing repeated and unrelenting activities within their agencies and in the American press to undermine Trump's candidacy, his transition and his Presidency? He's supposed to embrace them, as Obama embraced them in condemning our intelligence agencies in claimed intentional falsehoods concerning WMD in Iraq, or undermining the Presidency itself by condemning Bush's acceptance of the stupid intelligence agencies? That must be what you mean.
Diplomatic Mess

Peabody, MA

#22 Jul 16, 2018
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The summit took place. The news conference took place. The foreign media asked pertinent questions of the two world leaders expressing hope and constructive interaction for the future. The U.S. media once again shamed the profession and our country with anti-Trump insinuations and assertions. They are seen a joke.
Constructive interaction cannot take place without a strong Diplomatic presence. That was wiped out soon after Trump became President and he flippantly said they were a waste of money.

Constructive interaction cannot take place without a significant level of trust. There is no trust between Putin and Trump. Trump is either star-struck by Putin, or he is beholding to Putin. Either way, this is not a good situation.

Trump trying to go it alone without any assistance from advisors or diplomats is an awful mistake.
Annie Oakly

Wilmington, IL

#23 Jul 16, 2018
Each man lied to preserve their dignity, neither trusts the other as far as they could throw them with one hand tied behind them, but at least the door is open. President did not offer him uranium, or other goodies. Each know the other could blow up the world if they chose, so you keep your friend close, and your enemies closer. It was a success no matter what Ryan, and the others think, Flake will be gone soon for obvious reasons.
Jesus Latter Day Taints

Philadelphia, PA

#24 Jul 16, 2018
It's very simple:

Ill Duce Trump can't do anything but ask Putin and note Putin's denials....

That's after Ill Duce Trump just emptily attacked Obama for not doing anything. Weird.

And that empty attack was after months of Ill Duce Trump saying that nothing happened in this Russian election meddling, anyway. Weirder.

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