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Scientologist Tom Cruise Rants: Psychiatry 'Crime Against Humanity'

There are 498 comments on the The Post Chronicle story from Jan 21, 2008, titled Scientologist Tom Cruise Rants: Psychiatry 'Crime Against Humanity'. In it, The Post Chronicle reports that:

“I was doing an interview with someone and she said, 'I want to know who you are,' and I said, 'Know - I'm a Scientologist.'”

Scientologist Tom Cruise Rants: Psychiatry 'Crime Against Humanity' by Staff Tom Cruise has branded psychiatry "disgusting" in another bizarre Scientology rant. via The Post Chronicle

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Yada

Cookeville, TN

#1 Jan 23, 2008
This man is a crime against us all, in my estimation. He's just another lay individual who thinks he knows medical science. I reckon he problably considers himself an expert on rocket science also.
He's just another body that does not even know what he really believes. Hubbard, his founder merely used the same psychotherapy used for the last five thousand years of human history that is today called CBT as his undoing of negative engrams and shite. The technique can be found in the Holy Bible, Hinduism , the world over.'Tis not a new observation. Cheers!
TIC

Edgware, UK

#2 Jan 23, 2008
Yada wrote:
This man is a crime against us all, in my estimation. He's just another lay individual who thinks he knows medical science. I reckon he problably considers himself an expert on rocket science also.
Not just an expert, the AUTHORITY.

“Honorary Squirrel Buster”

Since: Apr 07

Oklahoma City, OK

#3 Jan 23, 2008
Yada wrote:
This man is a crime against us all, in my estimation. He's just another lay individual who thinks he knows medical science. I reckon he problably considers himself an expert on rocket science also.
He's just another body that does not even know what he really believes. Hubbard, his founder merely used the same psychotherapy used for the last five thousand years of human history that is today called CBT as his undoing of negative engrams and shite. The technique can be found in the Holy Bible, Hinduism , the world over.'Tis not a new observation. Cheers!
Yada,'HumanSpirit' on the psychiatry forum is a Scientologist too, even though he denies it.
Polly

Brisbane, Australia

#5 Jan 23, 2008
Red, this thread is cross posting in multiple forums.

Entertainment - Tom Cruise, Action, Mission: Impossible, Adventure, Thriller, Mystery Movies
News - Drugs
Health - Medicine, Psychiatry
Life - Religion, Scientology

Yada, now yopu see even more why many of us came to the psychiatry/neurology forum prior to them both being split in 2.

Cruise propogates the belief that has people totlly discard some sound medical advice.

Just like the woman last year who was refused ongoing psychiatric treatment,by her scientologist parents. She went on to have a osychitic break and murdered her own father, her 15 yr old sister and attempted to murder her own mother also.

This isnt the first time scientology "belief" about psychiatry has taken someones life.



And it certainly wont be the last whilst ever crackpot cultists practice medicine withOUT a license or any training.

Cruise's basis of "knowing the history of psychiatry" is based on hubbards lunacies that "whole track psychs" are behind all the troubles in the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_opera_in_S...
peter

Vancouver, WA

#4 Jan 23, 2008
Red Pill wrote:
<quoted text>Yada,'HumanSpirit' on the psychiatry forum is a Scientologist too, even though he denies it.
Yeah HS is definately a scientologist. He even let it slip a few times with, "not that i'm a member or anything but scientologists believe that...."

I can debate/talk crtically about COS all day long but the claims against psychiatry I can rarely ever even bring myself to discuss. These people have no clue whatsoever about how psychotropic meds improve the quality of life of millions of people. I'm not even talking about the PCP who prescribes too much prozac instead of recommending talk therapy but rather the chronic mentally ill population in the US that would endure incredible suffering w/o their meds. The development of these medications has enabled so many people to live generally normal lives who otherwise would have been warehoused and institutionalized for the remainder of their days. To say that they are out to help people while still claiming psychiatry is an "industry of death"is a disgrace and the non-brainwashed public knows it.

Peter
Yada

Cookeville, TN

#6 Jan 24, 2008
TIC wrote:
<quoted text>Not just an expert, the AUTHORITY.
True. Thank you. In fact, he might be another of our "deciders".
Yada

Cookeville, TN

#7 Jan 24, 2008
Red Pill wrote:
<quoted text>Yada,'HumanSpirit' on the psychiatry forum is a Scientologist too, even though he denies it.
I know thanks.
Yada

Cookeville, TN

#8 Jan 24, 2008
Red Pill wrote:
<quoted text>Yada,'HumanSpirit' on the psychiatry forum is a Scientologist too, even though he denies it.
So is zoompad and another person who sued to ISP from Ireland. Cheers!

Since: Jan 07

Jellystone Park

#9 Jan 24, 2008
Polly wrote:
this thread is cross posting in multiple forums
ORLY?
Then I will make it a point to mention that unlike scientology, the science of medicine (including the psychiatric specialties) are subject to peer review. It can't always be perfect but it can only get better.

Scientologogy can *never* get better, as it is permanently engraved on titanium tablets and stored in an underground bombproof bunker in New Mexico

“Honorary Squirrel Buster”

Since: Apr 07

Oklahoma City, OK

#10 Jan 24, 2008
peter wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah HS is definately a scientologist. He even let it slip a few times with, "not that i'm a member or anything but scientologists believe that...."
Thats always such a dead giveaway, but they mostly deny it on YouTube as well. Lying Scientologists like 'HumanSpirit' just don't understand kooky they look to we 'garden variety humanoids.'
HumanSpirit

High Springs, FL

#11 Jan 24, 2008
Peter.

Not a Scientologist.

That seems to be a common statement from any person associated with the mental health and counseling industry as the only defense against logical, reasonable or free thought on the issue of psychiatry and the use of psychotropic drugs..
You hear it all over the web and that is the reason I point out : "I am not a Scientologist" in my writings.
Read "Red Pill or Yogi Bear commits and you can see why I would make that statement in my writing.(Mental health occult members)

I do, however, commend COS on bring the issue of mental health court cases, Congressional hearings and documentation to the public eye. I don't think the mental health and counseling industry is going to police themselves considering the monies of the court and legal professions.

Calling a person a Scientologist, sounds like a common propaganda statement mindwashed on the mental health industries of guiney pigs.

Lets look at facts.

The American Psychiatric Association statement of "no test" for chemical imbalance" is not a Scientology statement but is an admission of guilt to the use of psychotropic drugs and mind alteration of millions of people, including children, based on whatever political motive was in the making, and for the profit of sustaining the mental health industry by induced mentally compromised patient.

My other statements has nothing to do with Scientology:

My statement:

"I believe the practice of medicine is predicated on something called the "medical model," which doctors learn in medical school that has a set of procedures by which they practice medicine. To me, a diagnosis is dependent on a pathology: something requiring a physical exam, X-rays, EKG, EEG, fluid specimen. I don't give merit to pain and suffering with governmental disability checks (as a shadow in background )for monetary enrichment by the long term patients and with absence of a genuine physical symptoms or patients drug induced to symptoms of mental psychosis for profit.

As for psychiatrists diagnosing an illness predicated on something like pain & suffering or behavior or conduct is absurd to me and I would discount the diagnoses as much as I would distrust their theories of physical or chemical lobotomies or shock treatment.

I understand that the statement of "no test for chemical imbalance" was made because of the pressures of the Academy of Sciences to disavow association with psychiatry because of the false statement.

"APA admits to fraud in mental health diagnoses by "Chemical Imbalance"
http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp...

I find it disturing that you, claiming to be a student or psychologist, would speculate on your statement below:

"Yeah HS is definately a scientologist. He even let it slip a few times with, "not that i'm a member or anything but scientologists believe that...."

I would be freighted or weary of anyone who makes a living by speculation, as commonly done in the mental health industry, especially considering the dangers of psychiatric drugs and bogus mental illness without reasonable thought to the damages done to a patient with whatever and however means of false diagnoses was evaluated on the patient.

http://www.psychdisorders.org/DSMsRidiculousL...

1. Medical oath: Do no harm:
(Psychiatry version)
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi...

2. Note: Bush enacted the "Medical Privacy Act" (2004) to conceal wrong doing and product defect of the pharmacutical industry (medical) and mental health and counseling industry so the list stops at that year 2004)
http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com :80/casualties.htm

more continued
HumanSpirit

High Springs, FL

#12 Jan 24, 2008
continued

Here's links with about 50000 people questioning the psychotropic drug you advocate in the mental health profession and speaking on the damages.

Today, from the recent Topix postings:

Effexor, Venlafaxine Forum
http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/effexor

effexor - longer term side effects
http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/effexor/TLLBS...

Marriages destroyed by SSRI's/SNRIs
http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/effexor/TQ4I2...

Effexor Withdrawal- any suggestions?
http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/effexor/TCDBC...

Antidepressants, Depression and Suicide
http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/effexor/T0VGN...

From petition. com

Effexsor
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed...

Paxil
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed...


Psychiatrists Top List in Drug Maker Gifts
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/27/health/psyc...

(Note: Bush enacted the "Medical Privacy Act" (2004) to conceal wrong doing and product defect of the pharmacutical industry (medical) and mental health and counseling industry so the list stops at that year 2004)

http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com :80/casualties.htm
Lil Momma

Bowling Green, KY

#13 Jan 24, 2008
WHY THE HELL DO YOU WRITE SO MUCH..?NO BODY IS REALLY GONNA READ ALL THAT STUFF..I WOULDN
XENU

United States

#14 Jan 24, 2008
I HEARD YOU LIEK XENUS!

“Proud SP since 2003”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#15 Jan 24, 2008
I would be weary of a cult that charges its adherents vast sums of money and claims, without an iota of proof, to be "experts on the mind".
Lil Momma

Bowling Green, KY

#16 Jan 24, 2008
Were you talking to me..?if so i dont know what you said and i dont like what ever you what ever you heard i liked i cant even read it..
HumanSpirit

High Springs, FL

#17 Jan 24, 2008
Peter, The wagon trains are circling and the Republican's will soon be out of office.

F.D.A. Requiring Suicide Studies in Drug Trials

snip:

After decades of inattention to the possible psychiatric side effects of experimental medicines, the Food and Drug Administration is now requiring drug makers to study closely whether patients become suicidal during clinical trials.

The new rules represent one of the most profound changes of the past 16 years to regulations governing drug development. But since the F.D.A.’s oversight of experimental medicines is done in secret, the agency’s shift has not been announced publicly.

The drug industry, however, is keenly aware of the change. Makers of drugs to treat obesity, urinary incontinence, epilepsy, smoking cessation, depression and many other conditions are being asked for the first time by the drug agency to put a comprehensive suicide assessment into their clinical trials.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/24/washington/...
JOE JOE

Bowling Green, KY

#18 Jan 24, 2008
YOUR UGLY...
Johnny

Sola, Norway

#19 Jan 24, 2008
Pharmaceutical companies are profit run and I have no doubt that quango's exist and that there are examples of experimental drugs being forced through for the sake of the shareholders. I also have no doubt that there are profiteering psychiatrists and psychologists who will proscribe badly, cash-in on as many money-making opportunities as possible and treat the hyppocratic oath with disrespect.

But these people and practices are not accross the board. To damn all drugs designed to treat mentall ilnesses without acknowledging the great benefits they give to millions of people is blinkered and/or uninformed.
To suggest that every psychiatrist is a quack is ridiculous and pathetic.

It's an industry and will inevitably contain flaws and undesirable goals to some extent.

But I tell you this: it is at least regulated. The regulatory bodies may themselves not be perfect but at least there is an openness and at least it is the requirement of any pharmaceutical company or psychiatrist or academic body to publish their findings, apply for licences and submit to professional/industrial/state (if not public) scrutiny.
An organisation like CoS cannot offer an alternative to these tried and tested practices without any responsibility or desire to lay it's own work open to scrutiny. You cannot rubbish the entire world and work of this branch of medicine without showing your own working.
CoS cannot wheel out some obscure professor (usually indirectly on their own payroll) and use his unsupported criticism of psychiatry as final proof of an industry bent on profit and mind control.

HS, your arguments only stand up to smaller scale scrutiny, isolated examples of an industry that may need yet more stringent regulation. But it does not prove that the whole system is rotten. You just end up looking like you have an axe to grind and an agenda to follow.
An agenda which matches that most flawed and rotten of all organisations; the CoS.
HumanSpirit

High Springs, FL

#20 Jan 24, 2008
Johnny;

As I stated before: I believe the practice of medicine is predicated on something called the "medical model" which doctors learn in medical school and has a set of procedures by which they practice medicine. Psychiatry, Psychologist, psychotherapist" do not have a medical model and there is no test for chemical imbalance.

To me, Psychiatry is misplaced in academia and belongs in social medicine. Psychology should be part of anthropology and brains are topics of biology.

I give acknowledgment in medical science to Neurology because of it's clinical research and testing and responsibility for operations.

I believe we need more regulation placed on Psychiatrist and Psychologist with video recorders because their profession is in collusion with free speech and Constitution privileges in the USA and is based on hearsay and thought including mind manipulation. We also have an enormous problem in the USA with murders, suicides and violence as a result of misdiagnose,pharmaceutical incentive programs and inducing illness for profits and long term patients at insurance or government costs.

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