Skatepark design group scales back project

Logan Pendergast describes a particular personal favorite skate park element to landscape architect Shawn Rohrbacker and fellow skater Drake Mason Thursday at a Paradise Recreation and Park District meeting. Full Story
Jake

Hayward, CA

#1 Jan 29, 2011
"The development also includes soccer fields and low-income housing which would be across the street from the skate park".

This is the town just asking for trouble. Anytime there is a park near low income housing, it becomes a magnet for crime, graffiti and drugs. Any skater with an ounce of skill, masters skate parks in no time at all, so the novelty with a lame park will wear off by the skater's next birthday. With limited funding, you can bet it's not going to be a Burnside or Battleground.
Bill

Hayward, CA

#2 Jan 29, 2011
Who's paying the Land Image Landscape Architects group for three go arounds of useless plans? As a taxpayer, I hope they are doing it out of the kindness of their hearts. Everyone benefits from parks providing nature, walking paths and picnic areas but numbers wise, what's the percentage of people who are going to be using a skate park?
paradise mike

Paradise, CA

#3 Jan 29, 2011
You wonder why your kids are becoming tweakers. Give them something to do! The park was going to be at the Park and Rec center. Now you want to put it on lower Clark out of town where it will be hard to get to. You worry about insurance yet other towns don't seem to have a problem giving this needed outlet to their youth. Give our youth a wholesome outlet!!
Paradise

Oroville, CA

#4 Jan 30, 2011
paradise mike wrote:
You wonder why your kids are becoming tweakers. Give them something to do! The park was going to be at the Park and Rec center. Now you want to put it on lower Clark out of town where it will be hard to get to. You worry about insurance yet other towns don't seem to have a problem giving this needed outlet to their youth. Give our youth a wholesome outlet!!
Wah, wah, wah. Don't blame "the system" or the "taxpayer" because kids do drugs. The issue of drugs comes from the home, parents and the kid as an individual. If the kids are bored there are other sports. There are also homework, part time job, volunteering, and so on. Come on, you can come up with a better argument than that, can't you?
Play Time

Chico, CA

#5 Jan 30, 2011
It's lame that Paradise doesn't already have a skate park.
It's lame that the park is not planned to be centrally located in town.
Let's get one built already, whatever the size. It will be fun.
Michael Regan

Paradise, CA

#6 Jan 30, 2011
Crappy location and a 1/3 of an acre is way to small especially if the are going to allow kids on bikes and push scooters. They need to scrap the leisure parks they are working on and put all that money towards this park for the kids. We already have the aquatic park, Rec center, Pearson park, Billie park, Paradise Lake and Merlo Park. We sure as heck don't need another park on Pentz or Magalia for people to stroll around in. They need to get this park right the first time so it will last for ages and not become boring after the first month.
Jake

Oroville, CA

#7 Jan 30, 2011
Michael Regan wrote:
Crappy location and a 1/3 of an acre is way to small especially if the are going to allow kids on bikes and push scooters. They need to scrap the leisure parks they are working on and put all that money towards this park for the kids. We already have the aquatic park, Rec center, Pearson park, Billie park, Paradise Lake and Merlo Park. We sure as heck don't need another park on Pentz or Magalia for people to stroll around in. They need to get this park right the first time so it will last for ages and not become boring after the first month.
"The development also includes soccer fields and low-income housing which would be across the street from the skate park".

And I repeat;.....you obviously don't pay taxes or have concern for property values.....
This is the town just asking for trouble. Anytime there is a park near low income housing, it becomes a magnet for crime, graffiti and drugs. Any skater with an ounce of skill, masters skate parks in no time at all, so the novelty with a lame park will wear off by the skater's next birthday. With limited funding, you can bet it's not going to be a Burnside or Battleground.
Jon Remalia

United States

#8 Jan 31, 2011
Paradise Community Village is far from real. Budget cuts have taken their toll. They are looking for over $500,000.00 in the very near future to keep it going.

I agree the location in not centrally located. It is far from the major residential portion of town. I would strongly suggest a more central location near the community park/RR Station.

Close to Police and Fire makes much sense. Land is zoned close by for a Skateboard shop or small cafe. Is not the old PID yard near the park. They are moving.

Put the park in town !!!! A boarder could access the Skate Park by the Memorial Bike Path. What a concept. A Boarder friendly access to a Skateboard Park.

No, but in governments great wisdom (wis dum) they locate it miles from the major population and supporting businesses.
Good Lord

Chico, CA

#9 Jan 31, 2011
Paradise wrote:
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Wah, wah, wah. Don't blame "the system" or the "taxpayer" because kids do drugs. The issue of drugs comes from the home, parents and the kid as an individual. If the kids are bored there are other sports. There are also homework, part time job, volunteering, and so on. Come on, you can come up with a better argument than that, can't you?
Better argument? Where's YOUR better argument? You're arguing points about alternatives that have ALWAYS existed, right? How well have those alternatives worked out? Obviously, there are kids who want this. It sounds like you aren't a fan of skateboarding--and that's OK. It's also not important to this discussion. "There are other sports", you say? No kidding, eh? Kick the can? Telephone? Certainly you aren't referring to any sports that require the use of balls--Based on your curmudgeonly post, you'd KEEP any ball that wound up in your yard. Then what?!?! I guess it's time for a skate park, yeah?

What will happen because of its (the skate park's) presence is yet to be determined. One thing's for sure though, you need to switch up your paradigm if you want to make any REAL changes here and participate in this discussion actively. Otherwise, you're opinion is just uninformed and outdated--we have PLENTY of that in Paradise.
Jake

Paradise, CA

#10 Feb 2, 2011
Good Lord wrote:
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Better argument? Where's YOUR better argument? You're arguing points about alternatives that have ALWAYS existed, right? How well have those alternatives worked out? Obviously, there are kids who want this. It sounds like you aren't a fan of skateboarding--and that's OK. It's also not important to this discussion. "There are other sports", you say? No kidding, eh? Kick the can? Telephone? Certainly you aren't referring to any sports that require the use of balls--Based on your curmudgeonly post, you'd KEEP any ball that wound up in your yard. Then what?!?! I guess it's time for a skate park, yeah?
What will happen because of its (the skate park's) presence is yet to be determined. One thing's for sure though, you need to switch up your paradigm if you want to make any REAL changes here and participate in this discussion actively. Otherwise, you're opinion is just uninformed and outdated--we have PLENTY of that in Paradise.
Let's talk money.

1. How much is the park costing (including the 3 design changes)?
2. How many people will actually use the park, and will the number be worth the cost?
3. Who's on the hook for paying for maintenance, clean-up and security?
4. Who's on the hook for the liability? A minor cannot consent to releasing liability and there is no way each skateboarder is going to have a parent present to sign a release.

I'm waiting for your words of wisdom and vast knowledge of economics...... Please explain.
Good Lord

Chico, CA

#11 Feb 2, 2011
Jake wrote:
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Let's talk money.
1. How much is the park costing (including the 3 design changes)?
2. How many people will actually use the park, and will the number be worth the cost?
3. Who's on the hook for paying for maintenance, clean-up and security?
4. Who's on the hook for the liability? A minor cannot consent to releasing liability and there is no way each skateboarder is going to have a parent present to sign a release.
I'm waiting for your words of wisdom and vast knowledge of economics...... Please explain.
Jake...I completely agree with you on EVERY point. But, unfortunately, you missed the gist of the conversation I was in with the other poster. The other poster (based on the defensive tone of your post, was it you, perhaps?) was simply dismissing the park because he/she has some sort of hangup with skateboarding or skateparks. He/she offered weak "solutions" that were really nothing more than feeble attempts to disregard the skatepark discussion completely.

I agree with you on figuring out money and logistics...but that was not what the conversation was about. So, before you go posting silly little snippets of contempt for a member of a discussion that you clearly haven't been paying attention to, maybe you should do a bit of reading to catch yourself up? That way, snarky little comments like "I'm waiting for your words of wisdom and vast knowledge of economics......" won't make you look like such a wannabe know-it-all...
Check it Out

United States

#12 Feb 12, 2011
Please visit the pathetic, expensive crime magnet that is the Oroville Skate/Bike Park, also presented by the SAME archtect. WASTE, not well used, THREE TIMES the budgeted price....be very careful. Come to this park after school or on a weekend and check it out.
Josh

United States

#13 Jan 13, 2012
Oriville, is way different, were talking about paradise. And who cares about location, put up some ramps, we raised over half a mill, and what the town of paradise waste it on law inforcement and the rec. Poor choices, also dont build a park and well just skate the schools, parks, buisnesses, and streets. Also many people in paradise were sponserd or can go pro. And they plan on building a walmart. Why not both? Another thing is a skate park for us kids who get looked at by people like were punks cause we skateboard. And at least we exercise and enjoi life insted of being some person who just has job. Way more to life, then money look at socity its crap. Get real people, a sports a sport. Look at rob dyrdek, and paul rodriguies, richer and happier then almost anyone. For something they love, we just wanna be happy and skate without, getting yeld at or kicked out. What else is there in this town?

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