Eugenics is practiced in our nation

It's no secret that Adolf Hitler's belief in eugenics led his regime to kill millions of innocent people that were considered genetically defective or racially impure. Full Story
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BRAD HINES

Chester, MA

#105 Feb 13, 2010
Barros Serrano wrote:
You're an idiot, like 100% of conservatives (fascists).
I advocate that population be reduced. That could be accomplished. Overpopulation IS a problem. I doubt you've thought deeply enough about that or any other problem on this planet to come up with any comment more meaningful than a hackneyed dittohead insult at liberals.
You pathetic traitorous fool.
I never said overpopulation isn't a problem. I just said that proponents of legal abortion are motivated by something other than respect for a woman's "right to choose." In some cases (Sanger, Ginsberg) it's eugenics. In your case, it's population control. Fine. At least you have admitted it. But don't pretend it's about "choice." You're not fooling anyone.

Have you noticed that I haven't resorted to childish name-calling? The fact that you have to proves you are losing this debate.

Since: May 08

Queensbury, NY

#106 Feb 13, 2010
BRAD HINES wrote:
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If liberals had their way, we wouldn't have any of these choices.
1. We can't choose what kind of car we want. There are fuel milage standards, emissions limits, inspection stickers, air bags, etc. Many these mandates were imposed by "pro choice" politicians
2. If you have enough money you can send your kids to any school you want, but poor kids are forced into whatever public school the government chooses. Liberals in California are currently trying to outlaw home-schooling. Dosen't sound very "pro choice"to me.
3. I'm not saying people should smoke everywhere. I'm just saying that it's the "pro choice" liberals who have taken away that choice.
4. Are you actually implying that there are no restrictions on our right to keep and bear arms? Have you noticed that the politicians who usually support the strictest gun control laws also happen to be "pro choice?"
5. Incandescent light bulbs have been banned by Democrats, most of whom claim to be "pro choice." The ban takes effect next year.
Obviously Democrats aren't really "pro choice." They are just pro abortion.
Sure pal,whatever you say,now get back to the ward,the card game is starting!
aisling___

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#107 Feb 13, 2010
Billy Jack wrote:
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I'm not a "liberal" and don't know anything about "liberal tactics" but I am against people losing hard fought rights in this great country of ours. Call me what you want but I will always stand up to people like you who want to be zealots and think they can take control of others rights just to fulfill some religious or political ideology. Obtaining and keeping individual right is a hard fought battle and it will continue. Freedom will prevail.
How about they take their hard fought rights and use a little common sense? The had the choice to use contraception or abstinence.

However, the "if it feels good just do it" mindset of some people allows them to skirt responsibility for their own actions.

Spin it however you want. Just because it is a woman's body doesn't give her any right to take the life of her unborn.

Maybe she should have thought about choice before engaging in sex and making the choice to be responsible. And not after the fact.

The only peple I see atttempting to take away the rights of others are those pro-choice advocates. Tell that to the someone who may believe it. Taking the life of the unborn is taking away their right to life, liberty and happiness. And only because they are classified as being unborn.

And the person who had the choice before engaging in sexual relations had a choice. The unborn didn't.

Candy coat it all you want. Sanger was a ghoul and could have given two damns about choice and a person's rights.

Obviously, you choose to avoid what her core beliefs were.

So stand up all you want to. Just as many will stand up to defend those who cannot help themselves and who have no voice due to someone's "choice".
aisling___

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#108 Feb 13, 2010
*correction: couldn't have given two damns...
Barros Serrano

Chatham, VA

#109 Feb 13, 2010
BRAD HINES wrote:
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I never said overpopulation isn't a problem. I just said that proponents of legal abortion are motivated by something other than respect for a woman's "right to choose." In some cases (Sanger, Ginsberg) it's eugenics. In your case, it's population control. Fine. At least you have admitted it. But don't pretend it's about "choice." You're not fooling anyone.
Have you noticed that I haven't resorted to childish name-calling? The fact that you have to proves you are losing this debate.
There is a debate to lose? Where? You are trite and trivial, boy.

I never connected abortion to pop control. In fact I think abortion is NOT a means of population control and should be minimized by adequate birth control, sex education, etc., as well as economic circumstances which do not make a single mother feel helpless.

The goal ideally would be to reduce as far as possible the number of abortions. I do not support rescinding Roe v Wade, however, because that would simply make abortion illegal without solving ANY of the attendant problems.

Pro-lifers are the biggest hypocrites on the planet.

Some feminists ARE motivated by "a woman's right to choose", but I think that they often overlook that abortion is nasty and we should be trying to avoid them... instead they support only the RIGHT to abortion and don't deal with policies which would reduce abortions.

In any case, the world is over-populated, and that has nothing to do with abortion.
Billy Jack

Glens Falls, NY

#110 Feb 13, 2010
BRAD HINES wrote:
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If liberals had their way, we wouldn't have any of these choices.
1. We can't choose what kind of car we want. There are fuel milage standards, emissions limits, inspection stickers, air bags, etc. Many these mandates were imposed by "pro choice" politicians
2. If you have enough money you can send your kids to any school you want, but poor kids are forced into whatever public school the government chooses. Liberals in California are currently trying to outlaw home-schooling. Dosen't sound very "pro choice"to me.
3. I'm not saying people should smoke everywhere. I'm just saying that it's the "pro choice" liberals who have taken away that choice.
4. Are you actually implying that there are no restrictions on our right to keep and bear arms? Have you noticed that the politicians who usually support the strictest gun control laws also happen to be "pro choice?"
5. Incandescent light bulbs have been banned by Democrats, most of whom claim to be "pro choice." The ban takes effect next year.
Obviously Democrats aren't really "pro choice." They are just pro abortion.
Brad, your making up lies again. Every thing that you have said here are lies, same as Jim pointed out earlier.
Get a life and get some education. And stop making up lies!
Billy Jack

Glens Falls, NY

#111 Feb 13, 2010
aisling___ wrote:
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How about they take their hard fought rights and use a little common sense? The had the choice to use contraception or abstinence.
However, the "if it feels good just do it" mindset of some people allows them to skirt responsibility for their own actions.
Spin it however you want. Just because it is a woman's body doesn't give her any right to take the life of her unborn.
Maybe she should have thought about choice before engaging in sex and making the choice to be responsible. And not after the fact.
The only peple I see atttempting to take away the rights of others are those pro-choice advocates. Tell that to the someone who may believe it. Taking the life of the unborn is taking away their right to life, liberty and happiness. And only because they are classified as being unborn.
And the person who had the choice before engaging in sexual relations had a choice. The unborn didn't.
Candy coat it all you want. Sanger was a ghoul and could have given two damns about choice and a person's rights.
Obviously, you choose to avoid what her core beliefs were.
So stand up all you want to. Just as many will stand up to defend those who cannot help themselves and who have no voice due to someone's "choice".
If you are so against abortion why don't you put time and energy into helping women survive with children they can't afford, Help fight birth defects by supporting organizations that work to prevent them, Fight for funding to educate young women and get them the contraception they need. Republicans fight against these issues. You are such a hypocrite.
Billy Jack

Glens Falls, NY

#112 Feb 13, 2010
aisling___ wrote:
<quoted text>
How about they take their hard fought rights and use a little common sense? The had the choice to use contraception or abstinence.
However, the "if it feels good just do it" mindset of some people allows them to skirt responsibility for their own actions.
Spin it however you want. Just because it is a woman's body doesn't give her any right to take the life of her unborn.
Maybe she should have thought about choice before engaging in sex and making the choice to be responsible. And not after the fact.
The only peple I see atttempting to take away the rights of others are those pro-choice advocates. Tell that to the someone who may believe it. Taking the life of the unborn is taking away their right to life, liberty and happiness. And only because they are classified as being unborn.
"Candy coat it all you want. Sanger was a ghoul and could have given two damns about choice and a person's rights. "
And the person who had the choice before engaging in sexual relations had a choice. The unborn didn't.
Candy coat it all you want. Sanger was a ghoul and could have given two damns about choice and a person's rights.
Obviously, you choose to avoid what her core beliefs were.
So stand up all you want to. Just as many will stand up to defend those who cannot help themselves and who have no voice due to someone's "choice".
Your twisted opinion. Hypocrite.

Since: May 08

Queensbury, NY

#113 Feb 14, 2010
Barros Serrano wrote:
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There is a debate to lose? Where? You are trite and trivial, boy.
I never connected abortion to pop control. In fact I think abortion is NOT a means of population control and should be minimized by adequate birth control, sex education, etc., as well as economic circumstances which do not make a single mother feel helpless.
The goal ideally would be to reduce as far as possible the number of abortions. I do not support rescinding Roe v Wade, however, because that would simply make abortion illegal without solving ANY of the attendant problems.
Pro-lifers are the biggest hypocrites on the planet.
Some feminists ARE motivated by "a woman's right to choose", but I think that they often overlook that abortion is nasty and we should be trying to avoid them... instead they support only the RIGHT to abortion and don't deal with policies which would reduce abortions.
In any case, the world is over-populated, and that has nothing to do with abortion.
You have stated perfectly,both the problem,and the solutions to the problem!
Ebonyeyez

College Point, NY

#114 Feb 14, 2010
Ho sad...
Skeptic

Worcester, MA

#115 Feb 14, 2010
You guys are like peas in a pod, 2 peas in a pod.....
ramdan wrote:
<quoted text>You have stated perfectly,both the problem,and the solutions to the problem!
Skeptic

Worcester, MA

#116 Feb 14, 2010
Abortion in the United States, eugenics, Margaret Sanger's agenda, it's all out in the open, everyone knows about cukoo Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood is an extremely rich, powerful organization, a big, nasty corporate entity that the Liberals love, they mostly hate corporate America, until it comes to Planned Parenthood, then, all of the sudden, the big corporation is OK, hypocritical.....

Since: May 08

Queensbury, NY

#117 Feb 14, 2010
Skeptic wrote:
Abortion in the United States, eugenics, Margaret Sanger's agenda, it's all out in the open, everyone knows about cukoo Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood is an extremely rich, powerful organization, a big, nasty corporate entity that the Liberals love, they mostly hate corporate America, until it comes to Planned Parenthood, then, all of the sudden, the big corporation is OK, hypocritical.....
We only hate certain portions of Corporate America! Planned Parenthood represents things we support,things like,a Womans right to choose,a God given right!
If planned parenthod has full coffers,it is due to the support of the people! Not hypocritical at all,we make a choice to support the rights of ALL AMERICANS!
SAL

Hickory, NC

#118 Feb 15, 2010
abortion-- no body has to talk about it-- it happens-- stop throwing it around-- grow up.
sweet sassy JM

Bronx, NY

#119 Feb 15, 2010
Bitner wrote:
As no one in this country is being forced to undergo an abortion, this is nothing more than rhetoric meant to manipulate emotions and sway people weak in mind, because a good argument cannot be found.
How ignorant of you to make such a statement that no one in this country is being forced to abort.

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