Eugenics is practiced in our nation

Eugenics is practiced in our nation

There are 115 comments on the Berkshire Eagle story from Feb 11, 2010, titled Eugenics is practiced in our nation. In it, Berkshire Eagle reports that:

It's no secret that Adolf Hitler's belief in eugenics led his regime to kill millions of innocent people that were considered genetically defective or racially impure.

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Oh really

Troy, NY

#1 Feb 12, 2010
I beg t o differ on one point. There are many many poor and uneducated flok in America and I don't think they are going away any time soon. In fact I believe their population to be growing exponentially.
Jim

Williamstown, MA

#3 Feb 12, 2010
Not only is Mr. Hines living in the past, he is more like Hitler than he knows. People under the Nazi regime had no choice. Like Hitler, Mr. Hines if he had his way, would take away the freedom choice from millions of American women.

As a social movement eugenics reached its height of popularity in the early decades of the 20th century. By the end of World War II eugenics had been largely abandoned. Although current trends in genetics have raised questions amongst critical academics concerning parallels between pre-war attitudes about eugenics and current "utilitarian" and social theories allegedly related to Darwinism, they are, in fact, only superficially related and somewhat contradictory to one another. At its pre-war height, the movement often pursued pseudoscientific notions of racial supremacy and purity.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#4 Feb 12, 2010
As no one in this country is being forced to undergo an abortion, this is nothing more than rhetoric meant to manipulate emotions and sway people weak in mind, because a good argument cannot be found.
econ101

Williamstown, MA

#5 Feb 12, 2010
@Jim: Excellent, informative, and well-written comment! You always raise the bar when you participate in Topix. Thanks.
minoritymama

Queensbury, NY

#6 Feb 12, 2010
Bitner wrote:
As no one in this country is being forced to undergo an abortion, this is nothing more than rhetoric meant to manipulate emotions and sway people weak in mind, because a good argument cannot be found.
How true.
Barros Serrano

United States

#7 Feb 12, 2010
Any eugenics program would require intentional selection of those to be sterilized/aborted. This is not being done. Who gets an abortion is who wants to get an abortion.

I do not see them turning away white women from abortion clinics...

The fact of eugenics in the USA is that it WAS IMPLEMENTED for a while, mostly in the South, and its targets were principally three groups: blacks, Appalachians and Italians.

The victims were sterilized, usually without understanding what was being done to them. The goal was to prevent "inferior" genes from contaminating the mainstream population. Appalachians were especially targeted because it was feared that as they left Appalachia for jobs they would quickly mix with the mainstream white population and dirty it with their genetic contamination from Native and black ancestry, which whom many are mixed, especially with Cherokee and Shawnee.

MANY women were sterilized during this period, up until WW2 basically.
MUIM

Toronto, Canada

#8 Feb 12, 2010
Wow this is a dumb article.
Harold Poupass

Boston, MA

#9 Feb 12, 2010
Jim wrote:
Not only is Mr. Hines living in the past, he is more like Hitler than he knows. People under the Nazi regime had no choice. Like Hitler, Mr. Hines if he had his way, would take away the freedom choice from millions of American women.
As a social movement eugenics reached its height of popularity in the early decades of the 20th century. By the end of World War II eugenics had been largely abandoned. Although current trends in genetics have raised questions amongst critical academics concerning parallels between pre-war attitudes about eugenics and current "utilitarian" and social theories allegedly related to Darwinism, they are, in fact, only superficially related and somewhat contradictory to one another. At its pre-war height, the movement often pursued pseudoscientific notions of racial supremacy and purity.
Great response Jim. Unfortunatley it will likley be disregared by Brad . I believe Brads concerns have less to do with the poor victims of quack science that was part and parcel of the social darwinism theories of the turn of the last century than with trying to demonstrate how American progressives are the same as European Fascists. It's just one of the "Bg Lies" in the far rights playbook.
Clairence Fantasizer

Troy, NY

#10 Feb 12, 2010
econ101 wrote:
@Jim: Excellent, informative, and well-written comment! You always raise the bar when you participate in Topix. Thanks.
Oh, like I don't raise the bar? Where is my slap on the back? Just for once I would like to be recognized for my educational and witty offerings.

Geeeesshh!
Barros Serrano

United States

#11 Feb 12, 2010
Harold Poupass wrote:
<quoted text> Great response Jim. Unfortunatley it will likley be disregared by Brad . I believe Brads concerns have less to do with the poor victims of quack science that was part and parcel of the social darwinism theories of the turn of the last century than with trying to demonstrate how American progressives are the same as European Fascists. It's just one of the "Bg Lies" in the far rights playbook.
Exactly. Well put.
Sanity

Midland, TX

#12 Feb 12, 2010
Jim wrote:
Not only is Mr. Hines living in the past, he is more like Hitler than he knows. People under the Nazi regime had no choice. Like Hitler, Mr. Hines if he had his way, would take away the freedom choice from millions of American women.

At its pre-war height, the movement often pursued pseudoscientific notions of racial supremacy and purity.
Nice to know that "liberals" have made it easier to "choose" to act like Nazis...

Today, pseudoscience is used to peddle absurdities like "anthtopomorphic global warming."

National Socialism Ueber Alles

Don't tolerate dissent, Sieg Obama.

Have a good day.
aisling___

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#13 Feb 12, 2010
Eugenics was embraced by The Fabian Socialist Society.
Sanity

Midland, TX

#14 Feb 12, 2010
Harold Poupass wrote:
<quoted text> I believe Brads concerns have less to do with the poor victims of quack science that was part and parcel of the social darwinism theories of the turn of the last century than with trying to demonstrate how American progressives are the same as European Fascists. It's just one of the "Bg Lies" in the far rights playbook.
Conserbatives believe "liberal" concerns have as much or less to do with the poor gaining and maintaining political power, much as was done by European fascists.

Social darwinism doesn't come from judeo-christian thought, it comes from , ummm... darwinism, the favored belief system of not only European fascists, but, ummm...the American Left.

Might wanna check your Left Wing "playbook" again, Harold.(You did pick an apt user name, though).

Still wishing everone a pleasant day.

Since: May 08

Queensbury, NY

#15 Feb 12, 2010
So now the ANTI's label a womans right to choose as eugenics! Cool!
Barros Serrano

Hillsboro, WV

#16 Feb 12, 2010
More twisting of history. Social Darwinism is not a philosophy of the Left, but of the racist right. It is social Darwinism even the conservative belief that the poor are poor through their own inferiority. Blame the victim = social Darwinism. They think that's "natural selection".

They also use a lot of misappropriated Darwinism in talking about capitalism generally.

Rightwing reprobates!
Sanity

Midland, TX

#17 Feb 12, 2010
ramdan wrote:
So now the ANTI's label a womans right to choose as eugenics! Cool!
Republicans were as anti 'Right to choose' to own slaves as we are abortion (aka in Newspeak as "choice")
Sanity

Midland, TX

#18 Feb 12, 2010
Barros Serrano wrote:
They also use a lot of misappropriated Darwinism in talking about capitalism generally.
Rightwing reprobates!
Ummmm, no...but are you saying that, like the European fascists, you think that capitalism in bad?

Do you think 'reprobates' should be exterminated, politically or otherwise?
aisling___

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#19 Feb 12, 2010
"Princeton appoints Peter Singer, Eugenics supporter as Biotethics Professor."

"It is Mr.Singer's writings and speeches on eugenics, eughanasia and the rights of babies, children, the elderly and the disabled, and the (lack of) value of human life in general, that are the focus of attention in so many countries.

Prof. Peter Singer advocated the harvesting of organs from disabled babies. There is the championing of eugenics. He felt that babies should only be admitted into the community as citizens in a ceremony on life after birth."

(That isn't who the right that man. It's the left. It also serves to illustrate just who our institutions of higher learning have within their ranks.)
aisling___

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#20 Feb 12, 2010
*Correction:
euthanasia, rather.
It isn't the right that embraces that man as well.
Sanity

Midland, TX

#21 Feb 12, 2010
MUIM wrote:
Wow this is a dumb article.
Yeah, anyone who impugns liberal fascism is dumb.

Politically speaking (if not in all ways), "liberals" are a Master Race.

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