Conservatives to turn to Internet after pulling plug on environmental panel

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NobodyYouKnow

Toronto, Canada

#1 Mar 31, 2012
Mr. Harpers only concern is continued electioneering and returning Canada to third world 'resource driven' economics.

He hates when people tell him that something needs real action, so he shoots the messengers. Or replaces them with his own toadies.

Between that and trying to keep his cohorts from getting caught lying, stealing, and getting slaps on the wrist from the ethics watchdogs, he just doesn't have any free time to deal with problems of concern to actual Canadians.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#2 Apr 1, 2012
It should be, Mr Harper's only concern, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty.
This might help both you and your imaginary friend, LessFact understand:
Possessive Forms
http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/posses...
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I'm sure you remember arguing about 'water's role'(the role water plays) when you were LessFact:
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
The apostrophe is to denote a contraction, i.e. "that's" <=> "that is".

Water's may be used in sentences such as "Water is wet" aka "water's wet" but "Water is role"?? Not likely.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

Hope that helps.

“dening those who deny nature. ”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#3 Apr 1, 2012
NobodyYouKnow wrote:
Mr. Harpers only concern is continued electioneering and returning Canada to third world 'resource driven' economics.
He hates when people tell him that something needs real action, so he shoots the messengers. Or replaces them with his own toadies.
Between that and trying to keep his cohorts from getting caught lying, stealing, and getting slaps on the wrist from the ethics watchdogs, he just doesn't have any free time to deal with problems of concern to actual Canadians.
Like the opposition isn't interested in electioneering? The simple truth is that Mr Harper is interested in truth is that Mr Harper wants to take the power away from a panel with it's own political agenda and give it back to the people. While Ms May wants to keep her position and the power that goes with it.

What you are really upset about is the fact that there is no way a minority group like yours is going to hold the influence over the masses in the same manner as the committee. That this is a another sign of the change in political winds.
Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#4 Apr 1, 2012
Everytime an individual's paycheck depends upon arriving at a specific conclusion, the individual will find a way to get to the conclusion needed.

This is the problem with all of the 'committees and commissions' and NGOs. Tenure on such boards should be limited and voluntary. We would get different results without paycheck dependent committee members.
NobodyYouKnow

Toronto, Canada

#5 Apr 1, 2012
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
Like the opposition isn't interested in electioneering?
Of course they are, during an election. But Harper is still running attack ads with public money to keep the pot boiling. Not good politics.

Not that you have a CLUE what Democracy is about.

“dening those who deny nature. ”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#6 Apr 1, 2012
NobodyYouKnow wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course they are, during an election. But Harper is still running attack ads with public money to keep the pot boiling. Not good politics.
Not that you have a CLUE what Democracy is about.
Really, I could say the same about you as well. That you have no clue what a democracy is. To you it seems to be that everyone would have to think like you. Which describes many things but not democracy.

Next thing you should look up is Republic. Because that is the type of goverment you have. Mr Harper is trying to turn it into more of a democracy.
NobodyYouKnow

Toronto, Canada

#7 Apr 1, 2012
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
Really, I could say the same about you as well.
I do not steal government money to electioneer when there is no election planned.

Your endless babble has ZERO credibility or reasoning.
NobodyYouKnow

Toronto, Canada

#8 Apr 1, 2012
Nor do I destroy all independent oversight on the government in order to destroy any public input.

Not just oversight on the environment but on pretty much all areas of the economy.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#9 Apr 2, 2012
LessFactMoreHype, alias:
NobodyYouEverWantToKnow wrote:
Not that you have a CLUE what Democracy is about.
NoFactAllHype wrote:
Your endless babble has ZERO credibility or reasoning.
Why do you respond to people you believe to be clueless, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty?
And why do you feel it necessary to almost invariably end your posts with an insult, Mr Thermal Pollutant?

“dening those who deny nature. ”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#10 Apr 2, 2012
NobodyYouKnow wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not steal government money to electioneer when there is no election planned.
Your endless babble has ZERO credibility or reasoning.
Do you steal it when there is an election planned?

And you were the one who has trouble telling the difference between a democracy and a republic. After all, Canada is a republic form of government. Based on your posts many would have to conclude that you were the one babbling.

“dening those who deny nature. ”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#11 Apr 2, 2012
NobodyYouKnow wrote:
Nor do I destroy all independent oversight on the government in order to destroy any public input.
Not just oversight on the environment but on pretty much all areas of the economy.
No, you just opposed independent oversight on the goverment and instead want a committee composed of those who think like you to help advance your political agenda.

What you have now is the entire country now on the committee. Of course that may be what is upsetting you. Now the majority instead of a minority now is providing the oversight.
NobodyYouKnow

Toronto, Canada

#12 Apr 2, 2012
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you steal it when there is an election planned?
Of course not. And if I was in government I wouldn't steal public money anyway. I would use party funds.
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
And you were the one who has trouble telling the difference between a democracy and a republic. After all, Canada is a republic form of government. Based on your posts many would have to conclude that you were the one babbling.
I know what a Democracy is. We HAD one here. Unfortunately, Americans in general and you in particular cannot understand the system at all. As shown by your posts.

That you agree with the suppression of public information and oversight just emphasizes this.
SeriesOfTubes

Toronto, Canada

#13 Apr 2, 2012
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/...

"Consistent with that view, a clear majority – 56 per cent – said they want Canada to sign on to a new international climate agreement, even it means job losses in some domestic industries and higher prices for some goods and services.

...

Nearly three quarters of respondents said they would support governments setting limits on carbon dioxide emissions, even if that meant higher energy prices. However, those who “strongly favour” such polices – as opposed to just “favour”– fell to 26 per cent from 38 per cent in the past year."

The Conservatives are getting the go-ahead for this kind of policy change from the Canadian public. Lost jobs, slower growth, higher fuel prices... Canadians would rather avoid these.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#14 Apr 2, 2012
LessFactMoreHype, alias:
NobodyYouEverWantToKnow wrote:
And if I was in government
Is "if" as big a word in Canada as it is everywhere else, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty?
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Any luck working out how to explain CO2 as a thermal pollutant yet?

“dening those who deny nature. ”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#15 Apr 2, 2012
NobodyYouKnow wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course not. And if I was in government I wouldn't steal public money anyway. I would use party funds.
<quoted text>
I know what a Democracy is. We HAD one here. Unfortunately, Americans in general and you in particular cannot understand the system at all. As shown by your posts.
That you agree with the suppression of public information and oversight just emphasizes this.
Then you would make a lousy politician. You use government funds first before using party funds.

When did you have a democracy? When did every citizen vote on every single little issue? Or did you have a republic where you elect people to represent you and they voted.

And who is agreeing with suppression of public information and oversight. I not the one who wants to leave it to a committee that is appointed by other political figures. I am all for trashing the committee and having the people provide the actual oversight instead of a select minority.
NobodyYouKnow

Toronto, Canada

#16 Apr 2, 2012
SeriesOfTubes wrote:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com /news/politics/support-for-cli mate-action-still-strong-in-ca nada-poll-finds/article2255707 /
"Consistent with that view, a clear majority – 56 per cent – said they want Canada to sign on to a new international climate agreement, even it means job losses in some domestic industries and higher prices for some goods and services.
The fact is that 'staying the course' with oil and coal will cost MORE than taking wise and early steps to improve efficiency. It will even increase GDP in the long run. And that messages is resonating with the voters who understand scrimping and saving to pay off the credit cards when you get behind.
NobodyYouKnow

Toronto, Canada

#17 Apr 2, 2012
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
Then you would make a lousy politician. You use government funds first before using party funds.
Theft comes easily to you, doesn't it?

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#18 Apr 3, 2012
LessFactMoreHype, alias:
NobodyYouEverWantToKnow wrote:
That CO2 cannot be a 'pollutant'? Wrong. Anything CAN and IS a pollutant in a specific context. In this case, as a greenhouse gas causing 'thermal pollution' of the planet.
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The point is really that the whole claim of 'CO2 is vital to life' and 'CO2 is plant food' promoted by Earthling is not so much that it is technically wrong, but that it is IRRELEVANT to the issue of CO2 as a 'thermal pollutant'. Agreed?
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#19 Apr 3, 2012
LessFactMoreHype, alias:
NobodyYouEverWantToKnow wrote:
Dear Mr. Case. The reason they would have used Fahrenheit is that, in the USA, only degreed scientists know what Celsius is, while everywhere else, they know both Fahrenheit and Celsius scales. So, to assure that the USA public is not left out, they have to report it in Fahrenheit.
No conspiracy. Honest.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

“dening those who deny nature. ”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#20 Apr 3, 2012
NobodyYouKnow wrote:
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Theft comes easily to you, doesn't it?
I understand it. After all, if you do not understand your foe you cannot hope to defeat them. We have people trying to penetrate the security of our network at work.

On the other hand, thinking things out must not come easy to you. After all, the idea of a politician using the government’s money before using the party's money is only a logical answer. Using government’s money would leave the party's money available while denying the government’s money to their opponents. Just a simple political tactic as is the replacing the panel with the public in general. It leaves the liberal party with less power and that is what bothers you even more. The environmental movement in Canada now has less pull and is less able to inflict its policy on the population in general

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