Surenos = Sur13 Alliance, Folk Alliance and La Gran Familia Alliance!!!!!!!

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Since: Jun 08

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#1 Dec 26, 2008
We dont have surenos in our back yards...they are in the allies like rats.

First of all, Surenos itself is one giant "peace treaty" once you hit prison. In other words, all the individual hispanic gangs in L.A have an agreement to a peace treaty as soon as they hit prison. Why? becuase all the hispanic gangs in southern Cali will not be able to survive in prison if they had to fight eachother as well as the bigger gangs like the Bloods and the Crips. So dont even try to say that surenos know nothing about peace treaties and alliances.

In Georgia you got surenos riding under the La Gran Familia aliance also. So what happen with your " a 13 will always and only be a 13". That's bullsh*t!You got 18 street riding with Latin Kings in Georgia!

In Illinois you got surenos riding under the Folks alliance...paying dues and standing on security for Folks in prison-- and guess who is at the top of the Folk alliance? It's the Ganster Disciples, a Black gang! And guess what. GD's have no laws against homoseuality! So imagine what happens when a sureno shows any signs of weakness. What happened to the BIG BAD SUR13 love!

So dont sit there and make it sound like you guys are not doing what you gotta do to survive. You are just a bunch of little and big gangs trying to stick together when you find yourselves in prison or out of state.(because in California streets you all are sworn enemies). But when you get locked up, you all need eachother in order to survive. So you come together because you all fear the bigger black gangs: the Crips and Bloods.

But Latin Kings dont need other hispanic gangs to survive in prison. We are one nation, not many. We have a different culture that is based upon strength, not weakness. And when the Latin Kings were small in numbers in Chicago back in the days, they just acted more brave and ruthless in order to get their respect. We didnt say "Hey Latin Disciples, Ambrose, Two Six, Spanish Cobras, etc...we need to stick together because the bigger black gangs have been taking advantage of us and we need to put aside our rivalries and stick together". No, the Latin Kings said "we are Kings and other mobs better respect us or feel our wrath". To this very day the Latin Kings are known as the most violent Security Threat Group in the state of Illinois. As for the surenos, you guys come together in prison out of fear. Instead, other Hispanic gangs have allied with us because they need our strength! But we dont need other gangs to survive like you guys. We are at the very top of the People Nation! We are the ones who spreaded the People Nation concept to New York in the first place! Bloods didnt know anything about the 5 and the 6! But they chose to ride with the peace treaty with Kings because they started seeing crips (who already adopted the Folk mentality)moving into New York. So they allied with Kings, which was a smart move. Because now it's "5 poppin and six droppin". As far as Kings in New York, they are a breed of a different kind. They are far more superior than us in trying to uphold our ideal principles and ideals of unity and peace among Third world Peoples. But if you want to bang instead, come to Chicago. You'll find exactly what you are looking for. Kings be treating the little surenos all through the suburbs (whenever they are fortunate enough to find them hiding in the allies,..slippin at some soccer game and thinking that they are still in L.A....and them BOOM, the last thing they hear is "Amor De Rey").
NWK_LKs

Redding, CT

#2 Dec 26, 2008
Lol@GDs treatin SUR13.....
bugsy13

Downey, CA

#3 Dec 28, 2008
Black gangs are bigger than latino gangs in LA? I don't know where you are getting your information, but latino gangmembers outnumber the bloods and the crips 4 to 1. There is not one sureno gang that fights with all sureno gangs. A Sureno gang might have four or five enemies and they don't target all black gangs. Black and brown gang territories intersect, you'll have a black and brown gangmember growing up together. Uniting in prison under the 13 allows us to control the California as well as Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, and Hawaiian prison systems. You guys in Chicago were a little late on that concept.
It is the same reason why the kings alligned themselves with the peoples. The kings are also known to battle within the people nation, hypocrite.
bugsy13

Downey, CA

#4 Dec 28, 2008
As far as the Latin Kings creating something positive in New York, that's BS! You can't have a so called organization fighting gangs from the folk nation and attempting to feed drugs to our people. The Latin Kings will never have a possitive impact in our communities, they're tainted with corruption, murder, and addiction. Their pathetic attempt to "clean" their image was worthless. You as well as I know that their change was a result of the continous attempts from rival gangs and the authorities to dismantle the LKs. LKs kept getting killed and your mediocre King Blood set himself up.
The LKs will never bring change. It's pathetic how you as well as all these individuals can believe that! Unbelievable, you know who is making a difference? Organizations like MALDEF, NHEA,the National Council of la Raza and the federation of puerto rican organizations. They are making a differnce, so if that is your goal, why don't you join one of them?
bugsy13

Downey, CA

#5 Dec 28, 2008
The Surenos gangs do offer some king of wellness in our communities, that was the reason for their existance. As Mexicans were fleeing the Mexican Revolution they joined former Mexicans naturalized under the treaty with the US. They were always looked down as second class citizens and were often targets of terror. As a result gangs were formed to protect those communities in the ezrly 1910s, and those gangs still exist today.
Now, Surenos have kept black gangs, whom often prey on older latinos, from targeting the weak. All Surenos are known for are murders, falsification, drugs, and money laundering. Surenos have rules such as no drive bys(we walk up and blast), rapes, and targeting unaffiliates. YES THEY ARE NOT NECERALY POSITIVE TO OUR COMMUNITIES, BUT THEY MAKE THE IMPACT LESS FELT.

Since: Jun 08

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#6 Dec 28, 2008
bugsy13 wrote:
Black gangs are bigger than latino gangs in LA? I don't know where you are getting your information, but latino gangmembers outnumber the bloods and the crips 4 to 1. There is not one sureno gang that fights with all sureno gangs. A Sureno gang might have four or five enemies and they don't target all black gangs. Black and brown gang territories intersect, you'll have a black and brown gangmember growing up together. Uniting in prison under the 13 allows us to control the California as well as Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, and Hawaiian prison systems. You guys in Chicago were a little late on that concept.
It is the same reason why the kings alligned themselves with the peoples. The kings are also known to battle within the people nation, hypocrite.
The only individual hispanic gang in Los Angeles that is big like the Bloods and Crips are the 18 Streets; other than that, all the other little clicks are tiny in comparisson. So of course if you put all the Latino gang members together and say, "we are one gang in prison" then of course Surenos will be deeper than the bigger Black gangs. But I would be happy if I were wrong about the Black and Brown conflict.

Since: Jun 08

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#7 Dec 28, 2008
bugsy13 wrote:
As far as the Latin Kings creating something positive in New York, that's BS! You can't have a so called organization fighting gangs from the folk nation and attempting to feed drugs to our people. The Latin Kings will never have a possitive impact in our communities, they're tainted with corruption, murder, and addiction. Their pathetic attempt to "clean" their image was worthless. You as well as I know that their change was a result of the continous attempts from rival gangs and the authorities to dismantle the LKs. LKs kept getting killed and your mediocre King Blood set himself up.
The LKs will never bring change. It's pathetic how you as well as all these individuals can believe that! Unbelievable, you know who is making a difference? Organizations like MALDEF, NHEA,the National Council of la Raza and the federation of puerto rican organizations. They are making a differnce, so if that is your goal, why don't you join one of them?
You are wrong in regards to the motives of the Latin Kings in NY to clean up their image because of rival gangs and law enforcement. The Kings attempted to clean up thier image during the time when they were at their peak (when King Tone was still fighting his charges), already labled as the largest, most violent and organized Gang that NY had ever seen. They wanted to stand for peace even while they had already established themselves as the Kings of the Jungle. So you got it in reverse. And that's why the authorities were so desperate to dismantle the Latin Kings (because then the King would be a threat to their curruption, thier brutality and their oppressive agenda).

As for what the future holds for ALKQN, only God knows. I am not in denial. I know that the nation is a criminal organization. One thing that I can say that the ALKQN has been able to accomplish is to bring a sense of solidarity between all Latinos--under one concept of nationhood. Surenos in Los Angeles are too biased against other Latinos. Far too ethnocentric to ever be the guiding light of all Latino youth. The foundation is already there for the ALKN; it's just a matter of cleaning in house and humbling ourselves for the greater good of all oppressed peoples. Too bad it's always in a Lions nature to wanna ruls the jungle.

Since: Jun 08

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#8 Dec 28, 2008
bugsy13 wrote:
The Surenos gangs do offer some king of wellness in our communities, that was the reason for their existance. As Mexicans were fleeing the Mexican Revolution they joined former Mexicans naturalized under the treaty with the US. They were always looked down as second class citizens and were often targets of terror. As a result gangs were formed to protect those communities in the ezrly 1910s, and those gangs still exist today.
Now, Surenos have kept black gangs, whom often prey on older latinos, from targeting the weak. All Surenos are known for are murders, falsification, drugs, and money laundering. Surenos have rules such as no drive bys(we walk up and blast), rapes, and targeting unaffiliates. YES THEY ARE NOT NECERALY POSITIVE TO OUR COMMUNITIES, BUT THEY MAKE THE IMPACT LESS FELT.
Well I'm sure the community appreciates that at least. But I am not going to sit here and act like we are any better than surenos when it comes to violence against our own people--both Latinos and Blacks. The truth is that a Latino gang member is more likely to be killed by another Latino gang member in Chicago than any other race. I's strictly gang bangin going on over here. The People and Folk Alliances are only significant in prison and in the national arena of gang identities. Almost all Latin "Folk" gangs are at war with eachother: MLDs vs Spanish Cobras, Two Six vs SDs, La Raza vs Latin Souls etc...I can go on and on. And the Latin Kings are at war or at odds with almost ever Latino "People" gang: Bishops, Counts, Spanish Vice Lords, Saints, Familia Stones etc... It's a dog eat dog world on the streets. But in prison, all these smaller Latino "People" gangs have to ride under the crown and are labled as "Allies"--but they can never have a position of authority over a King. Kings dictate everthing Latino and under the 5 in the joint. And no Black "People" Gang has any say to or over the Kings either. They function autonomously with all it's "aids and assists" and semi constituents.

Since: Jun 08

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#9 Dec 28, 2008
bugsy13 wrote:
The Surenos gangs do offer some king of wellness in our communities, that was the reason for their existance. As Mexicans were fleeing the Mexican Revolution they joined former Mexicans naturalized under the treaty with the US. They were always looked down as second class citizens and were often targets of terror. As a result gangs were formed to protect those communities in the ezrly 1910s, and those gangs still exist today.

Now, Surenos have kept black gangs, whom often prey on older latinos, from targeting the weak. All Surenos are known for are murders, falsification, drugs, and money laundering. Surenos have rules such as no drive bys(we walk up and blast), rapes, and targeting unaffiliates. YES THEY ARE NOT NECERALY POSITIVE TO OUR COMMUNITIES, BUT THEY MAKE THE IMPACT LESS FELT.
By the way, why do you keep changing your name? First you are Gonzo13, then ESELUCKY13 and now Bugsy13. I know it's the same person because of the tone of your comments. What's that all about?
a king brother

Chicago, IL

#10 Feb 10, 2009
51 ADA LK

You said it all

nothing else to say

what LA doesn't get is Chicago ia a mean place, everywhere, gangs, mods, dealers, plain old people on the street, democratic party, the cops, everyone likes to fight here

I know it ain't good, just the way it is
shorty king

Managua, Nicaragua

#11 Feb 11, 2009
amor de rey love peace and black and gold all the
way to central america reppin my crown
19st shorty
whot65656

Tualatin, OR

#12 Mar 21, 2009
i just want you to say that in prison and see what happens to you even out in the streets....
SURENO X3

Barrington, IL

#14 Mar 25, 2009
I MEANT THAT LATIN KINGZ AND SUR 13 R BIG OK SO TEAM UP AND KILL THE MAYATES L.O.V.E= Let Our Violence End.
NWK_LKs

Redding, CT

#15 Mar 25, 2009
Kings aren't "mayate killers" and there's good grip of Black Kings in the CHI and few places elsewhere
big g

Lisle, IL

#16 Apr 20, 2009
kkings are mayate lovers
kingofkings

Blue Jay, CA

#18 May 2, 2009
surenos aint shit

in the bay area surenos and crips are together

but in la crips and sureno dont like eachother
Wino

Norwalk, CA

#19 May 11, 2009
we ain't shit? You mean that we run shit in killafornia rite
King-S

New York, NY

#20 May 12, 2009
lmfao0 ya sur13's kant try that in NY....Kum to tha East to see wats really guud wit that Blue....I'll set that flag on fire fast homie....sur13 Killa, go tel your MS13 homies Tha same....i been slapin MS13's up in jamaica queens like krazy over here, ya all bunz, crips, sur, and MS13 iz nuffin out here but lite work
King Knowledge

Canada

#21 May 12, 2009
ADR. Is funny how ya claim the west the east the north the south. Kings we claim this earth as our kingdom we don't care about barrios we don't care about cities all we care is about our people and no matter where we are in Cali or NY Italy or Spain Ecuador or Mexico we still carried our crowns with pride. Right now I am in Canada I am still a king and my kingdom keeps growing my nation keep growing our tribes keep growing because we don't die we multiple.
NWK_LK I have a question for you, how is it that you know so much about our nation nut you still not a king I am old school and to tell you the truth I don't like when an outsider talks on behalf my nation. Don'T get me wrong this is not about disrespect is just that you may have a lot knowledge but not enough. In a lot of your post you sound like you are a brother, in a lot of your post you tell people to search in their hood if they want to join. Why don't you do the same.
King Knowledge Bloodline
NWK_LKs

Redding, CT

#23 May 12, 2009
Assumptions are bad King... Lol You don't know me to say go out to the hood and and seek brothers out because I have done so.. I know a few things because of Kings I've spoken to spit them too me but I gotta problem and its I don't wanna get plugged around here at all... Ask anybody and they will tell you Newark LKs is not like it was back in the days where you can find a King easily... Alot of Kings is knocked at that too.. I'll give you two instances.. When I was in barringer I was cool with couple of Highland futures maybe? I couldn't really tell back then but one of them really liked me and one day I caught up with him in the streets and he asked me to do him a favor basically to get close with em... Lol he told me to rob him a sidekick... Is you serious? and again I couldn't tell if he was really King or future but later I found out he got crowned after few months so go figure... I still got love for em because I knew him since middle/elementary and still shows love to me when he sees me... Another instance I met this King and he really liked me because the way I approached him and he start spittin to me tellin me how nation is beautiful thing and tellin me about "keepin a close circle though because not everyone is your brother" if I was really ready to join... But one thing threw me off about this guy he claimed to be from the Motherland and Im like oh word? I ask him where at and he just says "Northside" no street... I look at his hand he got 1 4 18 tatted... I been to the CHI and the Kings I've seen/met out there either had ADR tatted fully or just ADR not 1 4 18... So like I said I had few funny experiences which left me confused... My point is I do seek still but Im cautious with who I rotate...

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