Son, 18, charged with murder in father's shooting in St. Paul

His parents were arguing. He tried to intervene. Then, Aramis Gaither, 18, grabbed his gun and held it out toward his father at their St. Full Story
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Just Saying

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Feb 17, 2010
Children born and raised with violence, that are unable to "break the chain" become violent offenders themselves. The so called "victim" here was arrested 3 times prior to this for domestic abuse....just imagine how many times he should have been and wasn't. The mother, son and other children are the real victims here....the named "victim" is a product of the environment he created and the result is he is dead and the son has ended the violence inflicted upon him and his family for probably his entire life.
What happiness

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Feb 17, 2010
Another All American family supported by our hard earned tax dollars.
Seth

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Feb 17, 2010
What happiness wrote:
Another All American family supported by our hard earned tax dollars.
No. Another ignorant fool who believes that it's the poor who take their hard earned money and have gotten this country in the condition it's in. It's an abuse of power, and who's been in power? The poor? Wrong again!
Just Saying

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Feb 17, 2010
What happiness wrote:
Another All American family supported by our hard earned tax dollars.
I must have missed something as irrelevant as your statement in the article...the father was returning to the house for his work clothes and gloves when he was shot...do you have anything intelligent and/or factual for us this morning??
Bootsontheroad

Minneapolis, MN

#5 Feb 17, 2010
It was taught that 70% of leadership is setting an example. In this community it would appear that the example being set is violence is the way to get what you want, or make your point. So now the 18 year old tough guy is going to meet the really tough guys. Sad part, two weeks after his trail is done the whole community will be back to Business As Usual.
justified

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Feb 17, 2010
This young man may have done the wrong thing by killing this thug - but I hope the court sees it from his side and he is able to move on. He should do NO time for this.
1heated mother

Willmar, MN

#7 Feb 17, 2010
This is wrong. This child should not be charged with 2nd degree murder!! There is so many children out there that are tired of either their father or male figure in their mothers lives threating, or treating them and their children like garbage. This kid did alot of other children a favor. Sticking up for the rights of a WOMAN!!! Espically when it is their mother!! Who the hell taught this society what is right and wrong? A bunch of laws? Well, where are the laws that protect the women and children????? Susan needs to re think these charges. Look at her other cases better that what she does! Charge those who kill other peoples children and lets them get a Man 2 charge. Doesn't investagte any more than what she wants to. There are more cases out there that she needs to rethink about charging.
1heated mother

Willmar, MN

#8 Feb 17, 2010
What happiness wrote:
Another All American family supported by our hard earned tax dollars.
you really need some help - you have no clue if this family was supported by your heard earnd tax dollars! Grow up. What if they were? So what. Deal with it just like the rest of society and get off your high horse!
1heated mother

Willmar, MN

#9 Feb 17, 2010
Just Saying wrote:
Children born and raised with violence, that are unable to "break the chain" become violent offenders themselves. The so called "victim" here was arrested 3 times prior to this for domestic abuse....just imagine how many times he should have been and wasn't. The mother, son and other children are the real victims here....the named "victim" is a product of the environment he created and the result is he is dead and the son has ended the violence inflicted upon him and his family for probably his entire life.
I agree "VICTIM" that is the main key. why charge him with this kind of crime? Nonsense is what it is.
1heated mother

Willmar, MN

#10 Feb 17, 2010
justified wrote:
This young man may have done the wrong thing by killing this thug - but I hope the court sees it from his side and he is able to move on. He should do NO time for this.
I agree with this as well!!! He did everyone a favor. There is no way to rehabilitate someone who will not, don't want to change for the better. This child is innocent! I hope that he gets the support from society that he deserves.
Fishin Guy

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Feb 17, 2010
The victim was convicted of domestic assault-related cases in 2001, 2003 and 2004. What a jerk he must have been, he looks like an angry guy. It's hard to imagine what it must have been like living in that house every day. I almost feel sorry for the gun totin' son. I wonder if the son was a gangsta?

“Just dance.........”

Since: Jan 09

East Side

#12 Feb 17, 2010
justified wrote:
This young man may have done the wrong thing by killing this thug - but I hope the court sees it from his side and he is able to move on. He should do NO time for this.
He should definately serve some time. Something in his life pi$$es him off & he solves it by getting rid of that problem by shooting & killing it.
He possessed an illegal handgun which would of been used eventually by him to kill somebody.
The circumstances are very unfortunate indeed, but there were other choices for the family besides killing his father.
Nick

United States

#13 Feb 17, 2010
Give this guy a medal for taking out the bad guy.
But what a temper!
Nick

United States

#14 Feb 17, 2010
1heated mother wrote:
<quoted text>I agree "VICTIM" that is the main key. why charge him with this kind of crime? Nonsense is what it is.
One shot in the face may heave been enough to chase the old man off.
The son unloaded a gun on the guy filling his back with lead.
Very murderous indeed and that changed everything.
The Good Old Days

Saint Paul, MN

#15 Feb 17, 2010
You never saw Wally or the Beaver hold a gun on Ward. And June always had the pot roast and martinni ready when Ward got home from work. Just say'n.
Ap2_s2k

Minnetonka, MN

#16 Feb 17, 2010
Nick wrote:
<quoted text>
One shot in the face may heave been enough to chase the old man off.
The son unloaded a gun on the guy filling his back with lead.
Very murderous indeed and that changed everything.
I agree. Sure, he was protecting his mother but what he did was excessive and because of that, he won't be out for a long, long time.
Jesse Venturing

Minneapolis, MN

#17 Feb 17, 2010
There's no victim in Aramis.

He had an illegal weapon.

The so-called threat was no longer in the house.

He retrieved the illegal gun AFTER the threat had left.

He pursued his father outside.

He murdered his father outside.

Shot at him 10 times (prior report) hitting him 6 times.

Luckily there were no bystanders hit by the other 4 bullets!

No victim in Aramis.

Sounds like a case of "like father like son."
Some Never Learn

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Feb 17, 2010
1heated mother wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with this as well!!! He did everyone a favor. There is no way to rehabilitate someone who will not, don't want to change for the better. This child is innocent! I hope that he gets the support from society that he deserves.
Until he pulls the gun on someone else, maybe you or your family and then you would be screaming why wasn't he locked up. Black male youths do not learn by their mistakes. Can you say Royce White for example?
Jeff T in MPLS

United States

#20 Feb 17, 2010
While this young man did us a favor in getting rid of scum, he became that same type of scum in doing so. Being infected, he needs to pay the price for murder.

Does anyone but Paul Wellstone worshippers buy this:

"Aramis Gaither had gotten a black semiautomatic handgun off the street after someone tried to rob him; he went to his bedroom to retrieve it."

Exactly what was Aramis being robbed of or for? Did he have something of value someone else wanted? How did he get the gun away from his "assailant"?

Yeah right. He is scum.
Gopher Fan

San Francisco, CA

#21 Feb 17, 2010
AGAIN - SHAME ON THE PIONEER PRESS FOR ALLOWING ANY COMMENTS ON THIS -

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