Economic growth, Hispanics may help d...

Economic growth, Hispanics may help draw retailers to city

There are 45 comments on the El Paso Times story from Jun 1, 2011, titled Economic growth, Hispanics may help draw retailers to city. In it, El Paso Times reports that:

Jorge de Jesus Legaspi of the Legaspi Company spoke about Hispanic markets during Wednesay's seminar by the Inernational Council of Shopping Centers at the Double Tree Hotel.

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Anonymous

El Paso, TX

#22 Jun 2, 2011
I honestly feel that stores such as Whole Foods and Trader Joe's can make it here.

I know these forums like to play up the "low income" factor in EP. However, we have do indeed working people here with decent wages (and with families) who desire diverse shopping opportunities. If we make enough noise about it, and make it known that there is a need for these stores here, maybe they will listen.
Hispanic El Pasoan

El Paso, TX

#23 Jun 2, 2011
Rey wrote:
This week, the Times published stories of how the EP housing market is not good and the high unemployed rate. Doesnt it take money to shop?
It's premature to setting up shops or stores until the economny gets better.
This story was published, most likely, to counter the negative feeling of Juarez buisnesses fleeing to EP. And of course, La Reds PR program.
This is not directed to 'Rey,' but just an additional side note to this person's comment.

Did you know that real estate is cheaper in the greater DFW area than here in El Paso? In addition, employment opportunities are way better there as well. Now is the perfect time for all the people residing in the greater El Paso area who don't like it here to leave and go there. Pretty pleeeeese??
EL PASOAN

El Paso, TX

#24 Jun 2, 2011
We fought a war to win Texas from Mexico. Now it seems that our politicians (City, County, State and Federal) want to give it back.

Maybe it's time we fight for it again.

By the way, I have a hispanic background, but I'm a Texan and an American first and always.
Hispanic El Pasoan

El Paso, TX

#25 Jun 2, 2011
El Paso 2 Cali wrote:
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Because EL paso isn't California--We have both Trader's Joes and whole foods down the street...
Awe aren't you special? I wouldn't trade El Paso for Santa Clara, since Sun Harvest, Big 8, and Wal-mart Market serve me just fine. I read some of the Santa Clara forum links and wasn't impressed when I saw: gang-related homocides and drive by shootings, MS-13, great for Mexicans--especially illegals wink wink*, and bad performing schools. Sounds much worse than El Paso!!! Also, I have California cousins and they aren't the sharpest tools in the shed---family genetics wasn't enough to counter a terrible school system and being surrounded by low morality.
Rey

El Paso, TX

#26 Jun 2, 2011
I know that the property tax is much cheaper than EP's and wages are a lot more in relation to the job.

But, to leave EP, each to his own, would be like the fleeing people of Juarez. I intend to make a diffference in this city, not flee.

Just because people make statements about EP, doesnt mean they should move or hate EP. It means they are stating what is wrong and needs to be fixed. Instead of just accepting the status quo to show you love EP.

I love EP, which is why, I moved here. So I dont waste words about looking or being like some other city.
Tejano con huevos

El Paso, TX

#27 Jun 2, 2011
TheFuture wrote:
Mr. Tejano the "gringos" all shop on the Westside
Do not get me wrong Amigo, we love gringos to spend in our Mexican culture stores. We are not like Arizona, If ain't White it ain't right. We believe in equality.
Hispanic El Pasoan

El Paso, TX

#28 Jun 2, 2011
Mattman wrote:
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Don't forget In and Out Burger. Oh, amd some killer Sushi establishments. Good eats in Santa Clara.
Then go to Santa Clara. I saw the menu and it didn't look like anything special to me: Double burger with two meat patties, cheese and onions. BORRRRRINNNG.

I can't understand why people are so into franchises, when you have places like AJs diner: check out the menu: http://ajsdiner.com/pages/menu/index.shtml

bbq, guacamole, green chile, cheese, mushrooms, grilled onions etc. great burgers and great prices! If I hadn't just eaten a home-grilled burger with BBQ sauce and pineapple, I'd have to head right over!

Keep your California and your california-cruddy franchises.
Hispanic El Pasoan

El Paso, TX

#29 Jun 2, 2011
If you must have franchise, try Hudson's Grill. They have 10 locations: 4 in Wisconsin, 3 in Michigan, 1 in Iowa and then good ol' El Paso, TEXAS.

They do burgers with bacon, and chili and most the toppings Aj's does. http://www.hudsonsgrill.com/menu/burgers.html
LA_EP

El Paso, TX

#30 Jun 2, 2011
EP in ATX wrote:
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That's not completely true. Other border cities seem to have their own identities (San Diego) and the rest of Texas does have a large Hispanic population, but those cities cater to the community as a whole, not another county! I think most people are upset that the city cares more about what another counrty wants than its own tax paying citizens.
.....Tax paying citizens that unfortunately also pay more propery taxes than most bigger cities. Family in LA County that live in an $800,000 home and pay the same amount in property taxes that I pay on my > $200,000 home in EP. By the way...those property taxes are paying for a school district that just laid off a large number of its employees and is paying for medical services that I do not qualify for as an American citizen.
Hispanic El Pasoan

El Paso, TX

#31 Jun 2, 2011
Too many times people fall into the thinking that other cities are better than where they are at. This is not unique to El Paso. Personally, I don't think that El Paso is the best place on earth. I have lived in other places and liked them and could have lived in some of them for the rest of my life. Life is life and basically doesn't change from place to place. Family, great weather,cheap eats, and low real estate brought me and my family back to El Paso. I am born and raised--my spouse isn't. Low-real estate is not really a good reason to be in El Paso anymore---you can live better in cities like San Antonio and greater DFW. The opportunity costs of living in El Paso is high: high real estate, limited educational opportunities and lack of high end jobs. You gotta love it to stay.

Mattman mentioned El Paso not having a Saks Fifth Avenue, Pappadeux, Fry's, City Market, Ruth's Chris Steakhouse, HEB or In and Out Burger. Who cares? I'm happy shopping at Macy's, Dillard's, Koh'ls, JcPenney, Dress Barn, Burlington and Christopher and Banks. I have been to Saks so I do know what I am missing and they are online anyway if I really need a $400.00 silk dress. Many large cities don't have really high-end department stores, because there isn't a market for the types of things they sell and that is OK.

As for places like Fry's--isn't Best Buy and a combination of Electronic Departments in stores around town good enough? After all, you can always shop on-line.

Pappadeux---worse food ever in my opinion, but then I'm not into fried food served with more fried food and a bunch of french fries with the price tag of $15.00 and up or non-fried food with a tag of $20.00 and up. Give me some shredded beef tacos or a green chile, avocado, bbq or pineapple burger and I am quite content.

Ruth's Chris Steakhouse is a franchise I don't miss because one#: I've never been to one (next time I'm in Dallas I'll consider checking it out) and two#: I enjoy Great American, Cattle Baron, Logan's, Texas Roadhouse, Rancher's Grill, Edge of Texas, and Cattleman's just fine even though most of those aren't franchises. I've been eyeing Dane's Steakhouse for a while and will probably check it out on my next local Steakhouse visit. El Paso may not have certain steakhouses, but it isn't for lack of choices. I know I didn't mention some steakhouses like Billy Crews and Stateline--sorry never been to either.

As for grocery stores: I've shopped quite often at Sun Harvest even though I live in the far NE and it is NEVER crowded. I really like the variety of items they have and the produce is good. When I can't or don't want to make the drive, a combination of Big 8-decent produce, Wal-mart, Albertson's, Dollar General and Walgreens fill in all the gaps in my grocery shopping. City Market is not a necessity for me. Nor is Food Lion, Aldi, Hannaford, Safeway, Cub Foods, Food Bonanza, King Soopers, Piggly Wiggly, Sack n Save, Bag n Save, or Kroger. A couple were once El Paso staples and still exist elsewhere or are completely defunct. I've shopped in all of these in various cities I've traveled to or lived in as well. No city can support every grocery store there is. AND that is OK. A NE Target would be great, though.

Every place should offer some similar places and some places that are 'in that area only.' That is what makes traveling interesting. I visit Dallas every 3 months (dd's medical care--many pediatric specialties are not available here in El Paso which is more complaint worthy than things like 'we don't have a Hardee's or Captain D's ). I used to take my girls to Build a Bear in Dallas(Grapevine), but once they opened one at Cielo Vista it lost its appeal. We quit visiting the one in Dallas and have only visited the one here a few times. Same goes for Panda Express and Six Guys Burgers and Fries. As much as I enjoy Boston Market, Cafe Express and La Madeleine's, I don't really need them to open here.
cantescapethetax man

El Paso, TX

#32 Jun 2, 2011
LA_EP wrote:
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.....Tax paying citizens that unfortunately also pay more propery taxes than most bigger cities. Family in LA County that live in an $800,000 home and pay the same amount in property taxes that I pay on my > $200,000 home in EP. By the way...those property taxes are paying for a school district that just laid off a large number of its employees and is paying for medical services that I do not qualify for as an American citizen.
What size is your $800,000 home? How much will you end up paying in mortgage finance charges over the life of the loan? Property Taxes are high in Texas, but the state government doesn't tax income, so they have to make up for it somehow. In the El Paso area you can head north to NM for lower property taxes, but then you open yourself up to NM state income taxes. Real estate can be higher in NM as well so you will end up paying more for the same size house when you tally up the initial cost and the finance charges. Tax is a drag, but you can't escape it anywhere.

...oh you forgot to mention that your property taxes also pay for the county hospital---where they love treating mexican nationals who are shot in Juarez and on the border bridges
cantescapethetax man

El Paso, TX

#33 Jun 2, 2011
the country hospital is also where many illegals have their anchor babies....

...and many area students don't even live in the U.S.--they all have Tias and Tios here.
lowincomeelpaso

El Paso, TX

#34 Jun 2, 2011
Rose in EP wrote:
I honestly feel that stores such as Whole Foods and Trader Joe's can make it here.
I know these forums like to play up the "low income" factor in EP. However, we have do indeed working people here with decent wages (and with families) who desire diverse shopping opportunities. If we make enough noise about it, and make it known that there is a need for these stores here, maybe they will listen.
El Paso is more of a "low income mentality city' than a low income city.
ghost

El Paso, TX

#35 Jun 2, 2011
PARTY ALL THE TIME wrote:
If they're going for the Hispanic market then I guess the retail center is going to be full of Chicos Tacos and Dollar Stores
Ese i don't like chicos tacos vato got it ese, i dont like shopping at the Dollar store either ese, got it vato!
ghost

El Paso, TX

#36 Jun 2, 2011
Tired wrote:
The percentage of Mexican shoppers is skewed. They live here but have Mexican license plates, litter, don't pay taxes, and take advantage of manifestos. Yet another example of how the government protects those that do not support anything this country stands for.
Skewed??? What do you mean the Mexican's dont support anything vato, if it wasn't for the Mexicans coming over to downtown El Paso and shop, all the stores would be closed out of business, ese
ghost123

Washington, DC

#37 Jun 2, 2011
I was just saying to myself the other day thats exactly what the El Paso area needs! Another Mexican restaurant!! we just dont have enough here! probably why we have so mant slender ladies walking aroung without muffin tops. So hopefully with that mexican restaurant they can put a Bebe store or maybe a Fredricks of Hollywood so when you get your fill of the hard to find tamale or flauta you can go stuff yourself into some designer duds!! Good thinking El Paso!! Always on top of the game!!
Mr-D ElPaso

United States

#38 Jun 2, 2011
ghost wrote:
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Ese i don't like chicos tacos vato got it ese, i dont like shopping at the Dollar store either ese, got it vato!
I don't care for Dollar Tree Or Family Dollar either but if ElPaso was to open a real big 99cent store like in Tucson, Las Vegas, or California they would have to have more than 100 checkout stands. and these other dirty crummy cramped cheap stores would be closed with in a month. And when I say 99cent store I mean a real on not some Korean mom and pop joint.
Rich

Arlington, TX

#39 Jun 2, 2011
Mr-DElpaso wrote:
<quoted text>You got to be kidding a Whole foods or Trader Joe's. Just saying if they did open one of these classy food stores here in ElPaso the place would be trashed within a week parking lot littered with used diapers diapers and and other trash. It's to pricey they don't care about good quality only cheap fruits and veggies.
Whole Foods, Classy? are you kidding? Have you been to the ones in Dallas?
really

Austin, TX

#40 Jun 2, 2011
where in the NE
really

Austin, TX

#41 Jun 2, 2011
where's sun Harvest???

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