Bill

San Anselmo, CA

#1 Mar 17, 2012
You wouldn't know it from listening to the radio, but the Beatles have a surprising number of fans in the rap world. Hip-hop artists have been hip to the Beatles ever since veteran MC KRS-One sang his ''Criminal Minded'' to the tune of ''Hey Jude'' in 1987. But these days, the Fab Four get props less for their eternal rock riffs than for their envelope-pushing recording ingenuity, which fundamentally changed the way pop artists think about making records.''The studio-oriented s --- is what electronic-based or hip-hop producers are drawn to,'' says experimental West Coast beat maker Nobody.''Like 'Tomorrow Never Knows.' We all agree that's, like, the first electronic song, because it's all tape loops. It is kind of like the way people go about doing beats these days. They didn't have a key change in the song.''

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Biff

Snohomish, WA

#2 Mar 18, 2012
I hate what they are doing to good music by killing it with lame hip hop jive pop crap.

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#3 Mar 19, 2012
Biff wrote:
I hate what they are doing to good music by killing it with lame hip hop jive pop crap.
It's crap and even rappers know that it's crap.

The Beatles have nothing to do with Hip Hop which is worthless.

Why anyone would want to listen to it is beyond me.

Great black music is the Blues, Soul or Motown.

Rap makes Disco even sound good.
Bub

Snohomish, WA

#4 Mar 19, 2012
octopus brain wrote:
<quoted text>
It's crap and even rappers know that it's crap.
The Beatles have nothing to do with Hip Hop which is worthless.
Why anyone would want to listen to it is beyond me.
Great black music is the Blues, Soul or Motown.
Rap makes Disco even sound good.
Rap is about as entertaining as listening to someone pound on garbage can lids and yap or annoying like listening to a jack-hammer.Disco sucked but at least it had music behind it Rap usually has a drum machine and no talent added.Any fool can do hip hop that's why so many blacks and whites do it.That idiot Eminem and Vanilla Ice proved that.I hope Rap dies out real soon.

Since: Mar 10

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#5 Mar 19, 2012
Bub wrote:
<quoted text>Rap is about as entertaining as listening to someone pound on garbage can lids and yap or annoying like listening to a jack-hammer.Disco sucked but at least it had music behind it Rap usually has a drum machine and no talent added.Any fool can do hip hop that's why so many blacks and whites do it.That idiot Eminem and Vanilla Ice proved that.I hope Rap dies out real soon.
Even kids like my nieces and nephews admit that rap is crapola.

It gets fed to the masses anyway.

If you look at the billboard charts today it's mostly pop bimbos.

Even people who listened to rap in the 90's admit it's not good.

It really has no real market because it's thug rap aimed at kids.

The recording industry allowed this crap to be produced and sold.

Then they complain about people not buying music anymore, right?

New music has hit an all time low because of untalented goons.

Why anyone would mix rap with The Beatles is beyond me.
Bub

Everett, WA

#6 Mar 19, 2012
These Rap guys haven't got much original ideas so they sample Beatles and other groups and murder their songs by turning them into hip hop jive crap.They should be sued and never able to ruin good songs the way they do.
Ehh

Delmar, NY

#7 Jun 14, 2013
To be honest to everyone's argument, music throughout time has influenced later music. And in regards to the bashing of rap, chuck berry made a huge impact on funk, disco, and ultimately rap. And you want to know who the beatles's biggest inspiration was?? Chuck Berry. They used so much of his sound and bits of lyrics that berry eventually sued them. You know the song come together??? "Here come ole flattop" was originally from berry's song "you can't catch me". Twist and shout from the beatles??? Nope the isley brothers wrote and produced that song in 1961, 2 years before the beatles version was released. The beatles eventually credited these people from inspiration, not from theft. They were PROUD to be influenced! These people ultimately made rap what it was today. As a person who is a die hard beatles fan (i literally have all of their record albums on my dorm wall) i respect rap for it's uniqueness. I mean think about it, a genre that uses talking, and poetry as a form of music, inquisitive. It was the start of a new era. So when you start bashing certain things, learn some facts first. It may not hurt.
Octopus

Latham, NY

#9 Jun 14, 2013
Chuck Berry wrote songs about teenage life and played guitar. Though some songs rhyme, it had nothing to with rap with its violent anti social message. So I would disagree that the early rock n roll sound influenced later music. Rap grew from the inner city dance music scene of the seventies started by The Sugar Hill Gang. Chuck Berry is on record as saying that he hates rap and hip hop. He really got his style from the blues and country. Chuck simply created music built around his guitar playing in which included his famous duck walk. He joined the many other rockers who were exploring new ways of expression for the dissatisfied youth of the fifties. His songs spoke of what younger people were feeling at the time and along with other early rock greats, made people want to pick up instruments and start bands. Rappers don't play instruments. Hip hop is not rock and to me, shouldn't even be called music. It is spoken wordplay with fake comperized beat behind violent lyrics that for the most part, degrades women, glorifies drug use, guns and the loser thug life...
Bubba

Everett, WA

#10 Jun 14, 2013
Octopus wrote:
Chuck Berry wrote songs about teenage life and played guitar. Though some songs rhyme, it had nothing to with rap with its violent anti social message. So I would disagree that the early rock n roll sound influenced later music. Rap grew from the inner city dance music scene of the seventies started by The Sugar Hill Gang. Chuck Berry is on record as saying that he hates rap and hip hop. He really got his style from the blues and country. Chuck simply created music built around his guitar playing in which included his famous duck walk. He joined the many other rockers who were exploring new ways of expression for the dissatisfied youth of the fifties. His songs spoke of what younger people were feeling at the time and along with other early rock greats, made people want to pick up instruments and start bands. Rappers don't play instruments. Hip hop is not rock and to me, shouldn't even be called music. It is spoken wordplay with fake comperized beat behind violent lyrics that for the most part, degrades women, glorifies drug use, guns and the loser thug life...
You hit the nail on the head Octo. Rap is bullshit that rhymes and generated by drum machines and computers. No cool lead guitar solos or great horn parts just mumble jumble jiveass no talent selling to no brained morons who call it music. I think it's should be called Pig Slop not hip hop nothing hip about it just hopping and popping.
Octopus

Latham, NY

#11 Jun 14, 2013
Ehh wrote:
To be honest to everyone's argument, music throughout time has influenced later music. And in regards to the bashing of rap, chuck berry made a huge impact on funk, disco, and ultimately rap. And you want to know who the beatles's biggest inspiration was?? Chuck Berry. They used so much of his sound and bits of lyrics that berry eventually sued them. You know the song come together??? "Here come ole flattop" was originally from berry's song "you can't catch me". Twist and shout from the beatles??? Nope the isley brothers wrote and produced that song in 1961, 2 years before the beatles version was released. The beatles eventually credited these people from inspiration, not from theft. They were PROUD to be influenced! These people ultimately made rap what it was today. As a person who is a die hard beatles fan (i literally have all of their record albums on my dorm wall) i respect rap for it's uniqueness. I mean think about it, a genre that uses talking, and poetry as a form of music, inquisitive. It was the start of a new era. So when you start bashing certain things, learn some facts first. It may not hurt.
Bob Dylan and Jim Morrison wrote poetry. Rap will never reach that level of excellence. Most of it is pure garbage and shall never be respected by anyone that knows what true songwriting is. Truly banal, the music scene today is totally artless. Straight up. If rap and hip hop was a start of a new era, it basically ruined the creativity of people making music in what is left of the recording industry today. It is done cheaply, sold cheaply and has absolutely no value whatsoever. Lip snycing, dancing on stage with flashing lights is not a musician. Only clueless idiots would pay to see these fake concert productions and allow themselves to be ripped off by these untalented so called artists.
Bubba

Everett, WA

#12 Jun 14, 2013
Octopus wrote:
<quoted text>
Bob Dylan and Jim Morrison wrote poetry. Rap will never reach that level of excellence. Most of it is pure garbage and shall never be respected by anyone that knows what true songwriting is. Truly banal, the music scene today is totally artless. Straight up. If rap and hip hop was a start of a new era, it basically ruined the creativity of people making music in what is left of the recording industry today. It is done cheaply, sold cheaply and has absolutely no value whatsoever. Lip snycing, dancing on stage with flashing lights is not a musician. Only clueless idiots would pay to see these fake concert productions and allow themselves to be ripped off by these untalented so called artists.
It's more about the choreography now instead of the actual music. Joe Walsh still makes real music. His latest album analog man is very good.No flash or hype.
Octopus

Latham, NY

#13 Jun 14, 2013
Bubba wrote:
<quoted text>You hit the nail on the head Octo. Rap is bullshit that rhymes and generated by drum machines and computers. No cool lead guitar solos or great horn parts just mumble jumble jiveass no talent selling to no brained morons who call it music. I think it's should be called Pig Slop not hip hop nothing hip about it just hopping and popping.
Rap and hip hop has been around for over three decades and it is still not respected even by the morons that continue to listen to that garbage. Older rap acts like Run DMC are forgotten and left for dead for the next big thing. Rap is simply disposable junk for the current crop of kids that buy or download that crapola. At least, rock bands could actually build a catalog and maintained a life long career by playing life in concert and recording real albums in a recording studio. Computer generated voice overs is certainly not real recording. The music scene today is about as worthless as its ever been. That is why they have to find so called talent on television shows like American Idol or The X Factor.
Octopus

Latham, NY

#14 Jun 14, 2013
*live in concert...
Octopus

Latham, NY

#15 Jun 14, 2013
Bubba wrote:
<quoted text>It's more about the choreography now instead of the actual music. Joe Walsh still makes real music. His latest album analog man is very good.No flash or hype.
If I wanted to see people dance, I'd go to a dance club. Quite frankly, why anyone would spend hundreds of dollars to see a bimbo lip sync through her hits is mindboggling. It is a rip off of the highest degree. Madonna is a perfect example of lower standards. The untalented granny should disappear. She has done enough damage to the recording industry.
Bubba

Everett, WA

#16 Jun 14, 2013
Octopus wrote:
<quoted text>
If I wanted to see people dance, I'd go to a dance club. Quite frankly, why anyone would spend hundreds of dollars to see a bimbo lip sync through her hits is mindboggling. It is a rip off of the highest degree. Madonna is a perfect example of lower standards. The untalented granny should disappear. She has done enough damage to the recording industry.
It's caused more people to turn to country artist now. At least Carrie Underwood sings and looks good doing it. Madonna is all hype and good marketing. I wouldn't pay a dime to see her.Same with Beyonce. At least Aretha Franklin sang her heart out without the hype they have now a days.Madonna is very much like Justin Bieber only older and female.
Octopus

Latham, NY

#17 Jun 14, 2013
Bubba wrote:
<quoted text>It's caused more people to turn to country artist now. At least Carrie Underwood sings and looks good doing it. Madonna is all hype and good marketing. I wouldn't pay a dime to see her.Same with Beyonce. At least Aretha Franklin sang her heart out without the hype they have now a days.Madonna is very much like Justin Bieber only older and female.
Yeah, but even the modern country acts are bland and lifeless. I call it meathead music for wanna be rednecks. It is so fake. Still pure garbage.
Octopus

Latham, NY

#18 Jun 16, 2013
Ehh wrote:
To be honest to everyone's argument, music throughout time has influenced later music. And in regards to the bashing of rap, chuck berry made a huge impact on funk, disco, and ultimately rap. And you want to know who the beatles's biggest inspiration was?? Chuck Berry. They used so much of his sound and bits of lyrics that berry eventually sued them. You know the song come together??? "Here come ole flattop" was originally from berry's song "you can't catch me". Twist and shout from the beatles??? Nope the isley brothers wrote and produced that song in 1961, 2 years before the beatles version was released. The beatles eventually credited these people from inspiration, not from theft. They were PROUD to be influenced! These people ultimately made rap what it was today. As a person who is a die hard beatles fan (i literally have all of their record albums on my dorm wall) i respect rap for it's uniqueness. I mean think about it, a genre that uses talking, and poetry as a form of music, inquisitive. It was the start of a new era. So when you start bashing certain things, learn some facts first. It may not hurt.
I think you might have James Brown confused with Chuck Berry. It certainly it laughable to believe Chuck ever did Funk or Disco because he is strickly an early rock n roll legend. If anyone deserves credit for the development of funk, disco and early form of hip hop, it would really be James Brown, Marvin Gaye, Curtis Mayfield or George Clinton. Just saying...
Bubba

Everett, WA

#19 Jun 18, 2013
I think that some Mexican should do a rap Album called Mexican jumping Beans instead of hip hop. Those jumping bean hop around pretty good and Armando could play the Bongos and rap real fast in Spanish while Paco beats on a hubcap.

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