The Beatles vs Led Zeppelin

The Beatles vs Led Zeppelin

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Narobi Smith

Houston, TX

#81 Apr 12, 2012
ROCK = BEATLES.
yep.
Merle

Everett, WA

#82 Apr 12, 2012
Big_Poppa_ wrote:
BMTH > The Beatles
lolz
B=Best M=musicT=terrific=H=heavenly = Beatles Yep BMTH.
Death Rides A Horse

Christchurch, New Zealand

#83 Feb 14, 2014
Led Zeppelin are overrated as fuck. Technically great musicians, yes, but 80% of their songwriting is corny cock-rock bullshit. Some of their songs I like, such as "When The Levee Breaks" and "No Quarter" but I can't tolerate much else, it makes me cringe.

And Robert Plants' vocals are horrid, those songs I mentioned I like because he isn't screeching like a tortured cat all over the fucking place. Jimmy Page delivers great guitar riffs, but his wank-a-tonic solos are boring as Hell. John Paul Jones did some truly great bass and keyboard work, but was forced to stay in the background, behind the credit-hogging guitarist and frontman. Bonzo is a fine drummer, but nowhere near Keith Moon's league. Not to mention the fact that they plagiarised shitloads of old blues guys without giving due credit until being sued for it.

The Beatles, on the other hand, wrote songs that I can actually relate to. They don't scream, they don't do 10-minute guitar wanks, they don't sing about screwing in every single god damn song, they actually stepped out of their comfort zone, and introduced elements of music hall, classical music, old folk rhymes, Indian sitar music, early rock n' roll, and electronic music into their work. John Lennon and Paul MccCartney are only behind Bob Dylan as the greatest songwriters of their generation, without indulging in all the overwrought, pretentious, mind numbing bullshit that Led Zep condoned.

Give me the Beatles, Pink Floyd, the Who, Black Sabbath (who are not fucking metal (the most bullshit musical genre on the face of the earth) but BLUES ROCK, god damn it!) the Doors, the Velvet Underground, the Ramones, the Clash, as well as the criminally overlooked early rock n' roll greats, such as Elvis, Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Link Wray, Dick Dale, etc. over fucking Led Zeppelin anyday.

And one, more valuable piece of information; music today does not "suk" and not all "Ckassic Rock rooolz" you just need to get off your elitist asses, and get out there and search for the good music. Good music is not just restricted to classic rock/metal, it is not just restricted to the U.K./U.S., and human history does actually extend back beyond 1960. Good day to you all.
Octopus

Schenectady, NY

#84 Feb 15, 2014
I would have to agree that Led Zeppelin are greatly overrated by today's standards but back in the seventies and eighties, very few people knew what they were doing in regards to stealing old blues songs and claiming that they wrote them. That cuts Zeppelin down quite a lot. However, as a kid back in the eighties, Led Zeppelin were by favorite band. As a middle aged adult though, The Beatles do hold up nicely, especially their later period. The sixties produced many great musicians other than the obvious superstars and it is all about checking out obscurities that might not have been huge but put out interesting material. The Flaming Groovies are a perfect example. Good music means different things to different people and it has always been that way. As for new music and what they would pass off as new rock bands, I am certainly not interested. Paul Rodgers new CD, "The Royal Sessions" is great and deserves a listen. I would also recommend Jimi Hendrix's "People, Angels And Hell" Bob Dylan, Paul McCartney, Ozzy Osbourne and Robert Plant can not sing anymore and their voices are shot despite winning Grammy Awards. That happens. To me, Pink Floyd is a bit overrated as well. I find myself forever changing my opinions on music. I like early forms of rock n roll and Memphis blues and soul. That is where I am currently...
Chris

Milford, MI

#85 Feb 15, 2014
Octopus wrote:
I would have to agree that Led Zeppelin are greatly overrated by today's standards but back in the seventies and eighties, very few people knew what they were doing in regards to stealing old blues songs and claiming that they wrote them. That cuts Zeppelin down quite a lot. However, as a kid back in the eighties, Led Zeppelin were by favorite band. As a middle aged adult though, The Beatles do hold up nicely, especially their later period. The sixties produced many great musicians other than the obvious superstars and it is all about checking out obscurities that might not have been huge but put out interesting material. The Flaming Groovies are a perfect example. Good music means different things to different people and it has always been that way. As for new music and what they would pass off as new rock bands, I am certainly not interested. Paul Rodgers new CD, "The Royal Sessions" is great and deserves a listen. I would also recommend Jimi Hendrix's "People, Angels And Hell" Bob Dylan, Paul McCartney, Ozzy Osbourne and Robert Plant can not sing anymore and their voices are shot despite winning Grammy Awards. That happens. To me, Pink Floyd is a bit overrated as well. I find myself forever changing my opinions on music. I like early forms of rock n roll and Memphis blues and soul. That is where I am currently...
Even though Zeppelin stolle those old blues songs, I still wouldn't say they were overrated. They were excellent musicians, & the songs that they actually wrote, are some of the best hard rock songs ever written. Also, they were a big influence, especially on a lot of the heavy metal bands from the 80s.
Octopus

Schenectady, NY

#87 Feb 15, 2014
Chris wrote:
<quoted text>Even though Zeppelin stolle those old blues songs, I still wouldn't say they were overrated. They were excellent musicians, & the songs that they actually wrote, are some of the best hard rock songs ever written. Also, they were a big influence, especially on a lot of the heavy metal bands from the 80s.
I am simply bored by Led Zeppelin because I overplayed them for many years and by collecting bootlegs I was able to hear many other great bands that were just as good or better than Led Zeppelin. Since Zeppelin broke up in 1980, they only made ten albums while Black Sabbath and Deep Purple/Rainbow made new material. I've outgrown Zeppelin whereas The Rolling Stones, The Doors, Jimi Hendrix and even The Beatles still sound good to me. In my opinion, Led Zeppelin have became overrated because they failed to do anything new as a band unit. They are living off their past work. Robert Plant had a very interesting solo career. However, his more recent material is dreadful. He can not sing anymore and the magic he once processed has disappeared with old age. The "Celebration Day" reunion concert in 2007 was pathetic.
Chris

Ypsilanti, MI

#88 Feb 15, 2014
Octopus wrote:
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I am simply bored by Led Zeppelin because I overplayed them for many years and by collecting bootlegs I was able to hear many other great bands that were just as good or better than Led Zeppelin. Since Zeppelin broke up in 1980, they only made ten albums while Black Sabbath and Deep Purple/Rainbow made new material. I've outgrown Zeppelin whereas The Rolling Stones, The Doors, Jimi Hendrix and even The Beatles still sound good to me. In my opinion, Led Zeppelin have became overrated because they failed to do anything new as a band unit. They are living off their past work. Robert Plant had a very interesting solo career. However, his more recent material is dreadful. He can not sing anymore and the magic he once processed has disappeared with old age. The "Celebration Day" reunion concert in 2007 was pathetic.
I know what you mean, I get bored too with some bands that get overplayed, ACDC immediately comes to mind. I just can't listen to them anymore. I know Zeppelin's music hasn't aged as well as other bands like the Beatles or the Stones. But, for what they did in their time, homage has to be payed to them. If you look at all four members, you see four very talented individuals. Their are lots of very good bands, but very few can lay claim to having all of their members being extremely talented. Plant was a very good vocalist, Page was an excellent guitarist especially acoustic, Bonham was one of the best drummer's ever. Also, Jones was an excellent bassist & keyboardist.
Chris

Ypsilanti, MI

#89 Feb 15, 2014
I wanted to add a couple more things. I'm not judging Zeppelin based on where their at today, like that horrific Celebration Day concert. I am judging them on their heyday. They should've never done that reunion concert, that really tarnished their legacy. I have a friend, who admires Zeppelin, the same way you & I admire Elvis & the Beatles. He said he bought that reunion concert, & he was so disappointed, that he broke the DVD & threw it away.
Octopus

Schenectady, NY

#90 Feb 15, 2014
Chris wrote:
I wanted to add a couple more things. I'm not judging Zeppelin based on where their at today, like that horrific Celebration Day concert. I am judging them on their heyday. They should've never done that reunion concert, that really tarnished their legacy. I have a friend, who admires Zeppelin, the same way you & I admire Elvis & the Beatles. He said he bought that reunion concert, & he was so disappointed, that he broke the DVD & threw it away.
I did not buy it because there was nothing new on the discs that hasn't been done before better when they were at their peak. Like I said, years ago I was a Zeppelin freak but I just overplayed them. A track from "Celebration Day" still won a Grammy award. However, as a kid I liked Bad Company as well but Paul Rodgers new CD is amazing. He still can sing and do something new as an artist without turning off his core audience. Paul tapped into something that just happens to appeal to me at the moment. Memphis soul and blues with musicains that played on the original Stax recordings. That is why I think Zeppelin is now overrated. They waited too long to do a proper reunion and by 2007, it was very disappointing that it was just the same old tired songs that were played a billion times before. Finally releasing the concert six years after that one event is a joke. At least Black Sabbath took the time to create brand new material.
Octopus

Schenectady, NY

#91 Feb 15, 2014
Chris wrote:
<quoted text>I know what you mean, I get bored too with some bands that get overplayed, ACDC immediately comes to mind. I just can't listen to them anymore. I know Zeppelin's music hasn't aged as well as other bands like the Beatles or the Stones. But, for what they did in their time, homage has to be payed to them. If you look at all four members, you see four very talented individuals. Their are lots of very good bands, but very few can lay claim to having all of their members being extremely talented. Plant was a very good vocalist, Page was an excellent guitarist especially acoustic, Bonham was one of the best drummer's ever. Also, Jones was an excellent bassist & keyboardist.
I still like AC/DC's Bon Scott era music because it was more high speed rock n roll and was exactly Heavy Metal. The Stones best era was 1968-1971 and it holds up fine. Led Zeppelin were very good in their heyday and Iike I said, were my all time favorite band growing up. Perhaps, I overplayed them and that is why I do not like them anymore. I know that I was laughed at by many of my friends at the time over Zeppelin and they certainly never got Robert Plant's solo career with "Big Log" "In The Mood" "Sea Of Love" "Little By Little" "Tall Cool One" and "Ship Of Fools" It wasn't Heavy Metal but neither were The Who, The Kinks and Pink Floyd who were still popular all through my High School days. I just do not like Robert Plant's more recent work. That is ok with me because there are many other artists I can listen to. Paul Rodgers and Jimmy Page were in The Firm and they were great. It surprised me that I like Paul's brand new CD. He still sings very well.
Octopus

Schenectady, NY

#92 Feb 15, 2014
*not exactly heavy metal...
Chris

East Lansing, MI

#93 Feb 16, 2014
Octopus wrote:
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I still like AC/DC's Bon Scott era music because it was more high speed rock n roll and was exactly Heavy Metal. The Stones best era was 1968-1971 and it holds up fine. Led Zeppelin were very good in their heyday and Iike I said, were my all time favorite band growing up. Perhaps, I overplayed them and that is why I do not like them anymore. I know that I was laughed at by many of my friends at the time over Zeppelin and they certainly never got Robert Plant's solo career with "Big Log" "In The Mood" "Sea Of Love" "Little By Little" "Tall Cool One" and "Ship Of Fools" It wasn't Heavy Metal but neither were The Who, The Kinks and Pink Floyd who were still popular all through my High School days. I just do not like Robert Plant's more recent work. That is ok with me because there are many other artists I can listen to. Paul Rodgers and Jimmy Page were in The Firm and they were great. It surprised me that I like Paul's brand new CD. He still sings very well.
I forgot about Bon Scott era AC/DC, I still like that to, because it hasn't been overplayed. I liked Plant's 80s-90s solo stuff too. It was good & some of it sounded like Zeppelin. I liked the stuff Page was doing too, like the Firm & Outrider. I really liked the Coverdale/Page collaboration. That seemed like it was a throwback to the Zeppelin days, but also had a modern sound. I think because Coverdale has a similar voice to Plant's, it worked well with Page's guitar playing. If you've never listened to it, you should, the whole album is good in my opinion.
Octopus

Schenectady, NY

#94 Feb 16, 2014
Chris wrote:
<quoted text>I forgot about Bon Scott era AC/DC, I still like that to, because it hasn't been overplayed. I liked Plant's 80s-90s solo stuff too. It was good & some of it sounded like Zeppelin. I liked the stuff Page was doing too, like the Firm & Outrider. I really liked the Coverdale/Page collaboration. That seemed like it was a throwback to the Zeppelin days, but also had a modern sound. I think because Coverdale has a similar voice to Plant's, it worked well with Page's guitar playing. If you've never listened to it, you should, the whole album is good in my opinion.
I have most everything the members of Led Zeppelin put out up until the Plant/Page projects but stopped buying after that point. I liked Jimmy's guitar playing on "Coverdale/Page" but the album really left me cold. The last Robert Plant release I loved was "Fate Of Nations" I even found John Paul Jones score for the film, "Scream For Help" which I still have as a cassette. One of the most interesting things about Bon Scott era AC/DC was their imports were available back in the day so I heard more than just their US albums like "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheep" and his other releases with AC/DC. I was just a kid and did not realise I was buying basically bootlegs. I love the way Bon Scott led AC/DC rocked. High speed Chuck Berry riffs that has never really gone out of style. I am bored with Brian Johnson AC/DC. I think Bon Scott was quite a rocker. One of the greatest that ever lived but it wasn't exactly because it was what you would call Heavy Metal today. It was just high energy boogie. Teenage rock n roll for the seventies. They never overplayed it. I have an excellent two disc set on bootleg CD called, "Bonzo" Great stuff. I'd rather listen to Jimi Hendrix than Zeppelin. Jimi Hendrix is better than ever. Timeless. He makes Jimmy Page seem silly. Some things definitely change as you get older. I simply outgrew Zeppelin. I do not care if I ever hear them again.
you know they both excell

Alexandria, VA

#96 Feb 23, 2014
Hey its just possible that the Beatles AND Led Zeppelin should be considered the two most popular bands ever. Maybe someone should explain to you guys that verbally bashing each other does nothing to indicate the better band (if there is such a thing). They both had the mark of greatness.The Beatles began the madness of super hyped hysteria of rock and roll. Led Zeppalin carried it further, especially oweing to the fact that smoking pot was so prevailent during the Beatles' exit from the mainstream and Led Zeppelins' entrance. Both are still highly listenable.
Greg

Athens, Greece

#97 Feb 23, 2014
In my opinion, Led Zeppelin were just a very good hard rock band. They have some good songs; However, people make an image large with talking too much about it. Only music can tell.
Michael

Christchurch, New Zealand

#99 Mar 1, 2014
Greg wrote:
In my opinion, Led Zeppelin were just a very good hard rock band. They have some good songs; However, people make an image large with talking too much about it. Only music can tell.
Excellent comment, Greg. Solid hard rock band, great riffs, boring solos, occasionally plagiarised (and, might I add, mostly awful) songwriting, terrible singing. Yes, they brought more attention to the old blues guys, but did it by ripping off their songs. At least the Beatles had the common decency to credit the artists whose songs they covered. And the Beatles never stuck to just one genre. Led Zep simply dragged out the whole blues-rock schtick which had already been done to death by the time they arrived on the scene. Of course, they dipped their toe into a few different styles of music, but it was just plain embarassing to my ears. "D'yer Mak'er"? I can hear Bob Marley, Desmond Decker and Peter Tosh dancing somersaults in their graves. The Beatles tried out all types of music-music hall, folk, old-school rock n' roll, balladry, pysch rock, classical, blues and so on-more out there than Led Zep, yet still not committing themselves to one genre and remaining musically ambigous (is that the right term?). These are just some of the reasons why the Beatles crush Led Zeppelin IMO. And one more thing: The late, great Keith Moon suggested the name "Led Zeppelin" as a joke. And that is what Led Zeppelin will always be in my mind-a joke.
Greg

Athens, Greece

#100 Mar 2, 2014
Michael wrote:
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Excellent comment, Greg. Solid hard rock band, great riffs, boring solos, occasionally plagiarised (and, might I add, mostly awful) songwriting, terrible singing. Yes, they brought more attention to the old blues guys, but did it by ripping off their songs. At least the Beatles had the common decency to credit the artists whose songs they covered. And the Beatles never stuck to just one genre. Led Zep simply dragged out the whole blues-rock schtick which had already been done to death by the time they arrived on the scene. Of course, they dipped their toe into a few different styles of music, but it was just plain embarassing to my ears. "D'yer Mak'er"? I can hear Bob Marley, Desmond Decker and Peter Tosh dancing somersaults in their graves. The Beatles tried out all types of music-music hall, folk, old-school rock n' roll, balladry, pysch rock, classical, blues and so on-more out there than Led Zep, yet still not committing themselves to one genre and remaining musically ambigous (is that the right term?). These are just some of the reasons why the Beatles crush Led Zeppelin IMO. And one more thing: The late, great Keith Moon suggested the name "Led Zeppelin" as a joke. And that is what Led Zeppelin will always be in my mind-a joke.
Well, Michael...I can't give much credit to the Led Zeppelin, on the other hand I can't downgrade them either. What I was trying to say was that people tend to idealize guitar riffs and screams so much. And they want us to take them as talent! While my view on music is much different, much different...Even at school all the kids were going mad with those heavy metal bands or when I was a student...I couldn't stand it. I liked some songs and that was it! Thanks for your words.
Michael

Christchurch, New Zealand

#102 Mar 3, 2014
Greg wrote:
<quoted text>Well, Michael...I can't give much credit to the Led Zeppelin, on the other hand I can't downgrade them either. What I was trying to say was that people tend to idealize guitar riffs and screams so much. And they want us to take them as talent! While my view on music is much different, much different...Even at school all the kids were going mad with those heavy metal bands or when I was a student...I couldn't stand it. I liked some songs and that was it! Thanks for your words.
Sorry for misunderstanding you, Greg! But , rock n' roll is so much more than Cookie-Monster vocals, 20-minute guitar solos, etc.I can't really get into Heavy Metal (Note: Cookie-Monster vocals!) And of course there's so much more to music than just classic rock!(not a slam on classic rock, though) There's a whole different world out there, filled with amazing varied music most of us wouldn't even recognise...it's always good to listen to different stylesof music than just fixate yourself on one style...but that's just my opinion. Thank you.
Greg

Athens, Greece

#103 Mar 4, 2014
Michael wrote:
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Sorry for misunderstanding you, Greg! But , rock n' roll is so much more than Cookie-Monster vocals, 20-minute guitar solos, etc.I can't really get into Heavy Metal (Note: Cookie-Monster vocals!) And of course there's so much more to music than just classic rock!(not a slam on classic rock, though) There's a whole different world out there, filled with amazing varied music most of us wouldn't even recognise...it's always good to listen to different stylesof music than just fixate yourself on one style...but that's just my opinion. Thank you.
You haven't misunderstood me, don't apologize; It's just that we prefer different kinds of music as I have realised than other people. To me, these kinds of comparisons or Topix rivalries are meandering. The Beatles vs Led Zeppelin, the Beatles vs the Rolling Stones...Oh, man! Listen to your music and forget all other things. On the other side, when some come here and put down the ability of the Beatles and their arguments are based upon guitar playing and screaming, well that is what I can't tolerate.
Octopus

Schenectady, NY

#104 Mar 4, 2014
The problem with Beatle fans stems from the fact that the band still has a lot of overblown hype from the sixties cultural media that continues to want to shove a dead band down our throats. It has nothing to do with loud guitar solos or screaming vocals because that era has come and gone. Because Paul McCartney is old, they seem to want to give him awards and praise he does not deserve just because he is an ex Beatle. Over exposure stings and burns, which leads to criticism. Since most die hard Beatle fans are highly obnoxious about how they really view The Beatles, we are now seeing a direct bashlash against them. Led Zeppelin also can be harshly criticized for plagirism. People are just sick of The Beatles and we can clearly hear and see their faults and weaknesses in their live performances, studio recordings. Not everybody digs it. Paul McCartney is a wealthy businessman that has made billions of dollars. His music no longer has any emotion or meaning. It has been that way for over forty years. His songwriting is void of anything that most of us can even understand. He plays at a wealthy CEO's birthday party. It is quite a turn off to be honest. That is starting to hit back at The Beatles once solid legacy.

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