Germany, Poland Fight Over Manuscripts -

Germany, Poland Fight Over Manuscripts -

There are 91 comments on the Newsday story from Aug 15, 2007, titled Germany, Poland Fight Over Manuscripts -. In it, Newsday reports that:

A priceless manuscript at a Polish library shows how Mozart wrote down his Piano Concerto No.

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Paul

Battle Ground, WA

#1 Aug 16, 2007
Mozart might be born germanic, but he is was not a German and his cultural heritage is not is not only germanic. Just remember where he composed or executed his work...
Smetana

Vienna, VA

#2 Aug 17, 2007
Paul wrote:
Mozart might be born germanic, but he is was not a German and his cultural heritage is not is not only germanic. Just remember where he composed or executed his work...
In Austria?
American

Mount Vernon, MO

#3 Aug 17, 2007
So why does Poland have them then??????????
Smetana

Vienna, VA

#4 Aug 17, 2007
American wrote:
So why does Poland have them then??????????
Because the Nazis evacuated them to occupied Poland to protect them from Allied bombing. After the war the territory was either returned or rewarded to Poland and they took possesion of the manuscripts.
Rey

Ashford, UK

#5 Aug 17, 2007
Paul wrote:
Mozart might be born germanic, but he is was not a German and his cultural heritage is not is not only germanic. Just remember where he composed or executed his work...
In the United States of Amyeeerica! You know, everything is Amyeeeerican in this world, including Mozart's Amyeeeerican folk and jazz music. Is that correct?
Smetana

Vienna, VA

#6 Aug 17, 2007
Rey wrote:
<quoted text> In the United States of Amyeeerica! You know, everything is Amyeeeerican in this world, including Mozart's Amyeeeerican folk and jazz music. Is that correct?
How did you find a way to bash America through this forum. That took some creative thinking to connect a discussion of Mozart to ant-Americanism.

“Lege et lacrima”

Since: Aug 07

Salinas, CA

#7 Aug 17, 2007
Rey wrote:
<quoted text> In the United States of Amyeeerica! You know, everything is Amyeeeerican in this world, including Mozart's Amyeeeerican folk and jazz music. Is that correct?
Off to Tesco with you!! Silly git!
Rey

Ashford, UK

#8 Aug 17, 2007
Smetana wrote:
<quoted text>How did you find a way to bash America through this forum. That took some creative thinking to connect a discussion of Mozart to ant-Americanism.
Creative thinking… don’t you see, Smetana, you little Czech-Pepicek, that your fellow opened this topic the same way as McDonalds opens gates to uneatable burgers? And you, little Czech, how did you find the way to gurgle about things not available to your little hen’s brain? You’d better isolate yourself (as your masters, the Yanks, usually do) within the limits of the American Forum, together with other semi-literate clods, like you, to bubble successfully the American chewy subject. Don’t profane arts by means of your intellectual misery. Farewell!
Rey

Ashford, UK

#9 Aug 17, 2007
Tom Dooley wrote:
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Off to Tesco with you!! Silly git!
“Cogito Ergo Sum”? Garden goblins would laugh! Change your alias…
Rest in peace and in boredom of the American Forum, dude... just piss off, you professional idiot
william

Canterbury, UK

#11 Aug 18, 2007
Very amusing thread this one!

LMAO !!

Smetana, we don't need an excuse to bash America; we just like to do it!! LOL
Werner

Cambridge, MA

#12 Aug 18, 2007
Poor poor germany, my heart bleeds for you. If I were Poland, I would burn the manuscripts before turning them over to those barbarians.
Bo Siriyl

Bolton, Canada

#13 Aug 18, 2007
German hopes of regaining the music and manuscript collection has offend many Poles and rightly so.

German genocideality reulted in the loss in the Polish Republic of 6 million people and vast cultural treasures, including an estimated 22 million books and hundreds of thousands of art works, in nearly six years of German World War II occupation.

What German hypocrisy and audacity!

The German invasion in Ukraine alone resulted in the destruction of thousands of ancient wonders of church architecture, and priceless icons.

Where are the Germans when it comes to replacing those treasures that they destroyed and pillaged?
Aureliusz

Australia

#14 Aug 18, 2007
Let's remember over 40% of Poland's wealth infrastructure,cultural treasures, and 52% of it's prewar land was annexed in the East. Including enormous amounts of Gold reserves that where shipped to the UK for safe keeping till after the war,which had also, to this day disappeared in Britain.

To this day Germany, Britain, and Russia haven't paid 1 cent of compensation for the destruction, the pillaging and day light robbery as in Britain's case for those day. If there's anyone who should demand anything from anyone then it should be Poland, and yet Poland doesn't direct it's focus on these issues as rigorously as Germany has and increasing does with stronger and stronger political backing.

Certainly, Germany can have their manuscript collection, but first pay up for the billions of dollars of destruction including our cultural heritage you still posses. After that, I'm sure we are can be kind enough to return your cultural heritage as a good will gesture.
Aureliusz

Australia

#15 Aug 18, 2007
German Pigs!!!
Aureliusz

Australia

#16 Aug 18, 2007
Next thing you'll hear is that Chopin and Copernicus where German too. un-#@*%^# believable.
Smetana

Vienna, VA

#17 Aug 20, 2007
william wrote:
Very amusing thread this one!
LMAO !!
Smetana, we don't need an excuse to bash America; we just like to do it!! LOL
I know, I know. This has been evident from almost all the forums. Where did Rey come off that I'm Czech and why does he hate them so much? Sometimes its just impossible to have a intellectual dispute on these forums. Too much name calling and racism
Smetana

Vienna, VA

#18 Aug 20, 2007
Rey wrote:
<quoted text> Creative thinking… don’t you see, Smetana, you little Czech-Pepicek, that your fellow opened this topic the same way as McDonalds opens gates to uneatable burgers? And you, little Czech, how did you find the way to gurgle about things not available to your little hen’s brain? You’d better isolate yourself (as your masters, the Yanks, usually do) within the limits of the American Forum, together with other semi-literate clods, like you, to bubble successfully the American chewy subject. Don’t profane arts by means of your intellectual misery. Farewell!
Rey, I made the comment because Paul never mentioned anything about America. Why should I stay in American forums when you don't stay in UK forums? Also could you write a little more clearly because my hen's brain can't compute your superior racist comments. I just don't have the intellectual prowness you have to insult someone with profanities while at the same time completely avoiding subject.
Rey

Attleborough, UK

#19 Aug 20, 2007
Smetana wrote:
<quoted text> Rey, I made the comment because Paul never mentioned anything about America. Why should I stay in American forums when you don't stay in UK forums? Also could you write a little more clearly because my hen's brain can't compute your superior racist comments. I just don't have the intellectual prowness you have to insult someone with profanities while at the same time completely avoiding subject.
Smetana wrote:“After the war the territory was either returned or rewarded to Poland…”

Smetana,
1. For me, the way you write about Poland stinks with racism and discrimination ; you tend to suggest that Poland has always been on a leased ground, or has been granted par excellence some, previously leased, grounds. Forgive me, please, but such a comment can only come from a brain-fenced man. Since my insult (or a statement rather, than insult).
I am saying now: How great is Czechoslovakia… always an insignificant part of somebody’s empire. Always.… Even Polish tanks and anti-aircraft artillery guns were recently ploughing with their caterpillars your so much “independent” territory!
2. I started with the topic which is parallel to this ; why didn’t you placed your rightly substantiated criticism of what I had written? I wouldn’t mind if you found that I had misjudged the case, and thus you refuted my point of view. I would be happy to read your opinion. Would you be so kind and try to read my only comment on the same topic, placed on this Forum? Thank you
3. I am sending you to the American devil and its Forum, and, at the same time, I have a good reason to write on the Polish one for the Polish affairs do matter for me for I origin from Poland (do you write on the Czech Forum?). Besides the British Forum is dull and has almost nothing to offer, my confession, as above, fully explains the case.
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Paul wrote:“Mozart might be born germanic, but he is was not a German and his cultural heritage is not is not only germanic. Just remember where he composed or executed his work…”
Listen, Smetana. For the vast majority of Czechs are mostly educated (and I presume that you are one of them), gifted and industrious people, I am counting on you that you will write something substantial about Mozart’s manuscripts, in an attempt to disperse the puerility and the nightmare of the McDonald’s grub chamber-style discussion (typical to the American mentality!) which opened,“successfully”, this page, thanks to Paul‘s intellectual efforts.
Then, aftermath, I will be more than happy to shake hand with you. Regards
bee

Cathedral City, CA

#20 Aug 20, 2007
Germany may end up being the last light left on in Europe.
bee

Cathedral City, CA

#21 Aug 20, 2007
The manuscripts now reside in Poland.
The war is over.

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