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Lack of accomplishment

It seems to me that people on both sides are missing a crucial point about Barack Obama .

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DailyGrind51
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Jul 29, 2008
 
I guess Barack made the error of not being born to a rich powerful political family who could bail him out of every failure so he would never be held accountable for his decisions, which, he believes, were inspired by God, rather than the self-serving people around him? I guess Barack should have been focusing on making himself rich, rather than serving his community, too? First term U.S. Senator, AND the next President of the United States. Deal with it!
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Jul 29, 2008
 
DailyGrind51 wrote:
I guess Barack made the error of not being born to a rich powerful political family who could bail him out of every failure so he would never be held accountable for his decisions, which, he believes, were inspired by God, rather than the self-serving people around him? I guess Barack should have been focusing on making himself rich, rather than serving his community, too? First term U.S. Senator, AND the next President of the United States. Deal with it!
Well said!
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Jul 29, 2008
 
What you fail to mention is that McCain's only accomplishment is being a Bush clone. Not exactly a sterling endoresement.
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Jul 29, 2008
 
Someone Might Want To Check Lincoln's Resume Before he Became President. Pretty Thin.
If Obama Had Been In The Senate And/Or Congress For The Last Ten Years,You Can Bet The Same People Bemoaning His Lack Of Experience Now Would Be Trashing His Recored During That Time!
Oh,And I Guess Trying To Give Something BACK To His Community Is Being A "Trouble Maker"!!
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Jul 29, 2008
 
I know the writer couldn't have possible voted for George W since he thinks Obama's resume is too thin. Or was he impressed that GW was Governor of Texas, the state with the highest rate of overturned convictions at the same time it has the highest number of executions. Or maybe it was GW's experience of support from Enron that impressed him.
Bush is a dimwit
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Jul 29, 2008
 
Suppose you had to choose between two Presidential candidates, one of whom had spent 20 years in Congress plus had considerable other relevant experience and the other of whom had about half a dozen years in the Illinois state legislature and 2 years in Congress. Which one do you think would make a better President? If you chose #1, congratulations, you picked James Buchanan over Abraham Lincoln.

Experience is overrated:

2000 Bush vs. Gore most experienced lost

1992 Clinton vs. Bush most experienced lost

1980 Reagan vs. Carter most experienced lost

1976 Carter vs. Ford most experienced lost

1968 Nixon vs. Humphrey candidates were equal in experience.

1960 Kennedy vs. Nixon most experienced lost

1952 Eisenhower vs. Stevenson most experienced lost

1322 FDR vs Hoover most experienced lost

1920 Harding vs Cox most experienced lost

1912 Wilson vs Taft and Teddy Roosevelt more experienced lost
Tamjak
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Jul 29, 2008
 
Obama is running against McCain, not Bush. It's not relevant to compare Obama to Bush.
KDB
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Jul 29, 2008
 
Conservatives certainly aren't enamored with John McCain as a candidate. I lean his way mostly on the fact that he has some track record for opposing wasteful, pork-barrel spending. My insight into his character is based on him not taking early release as a POW base on his status and not taking earmarks for his state. He has many successes and failures which add up to experience we can only hope he has learned from.
Barack Obama on the other hand, apart from a few impressive academic accomplishments has nothing of any substance or significance with which to judge him on. There doesn't seem to be anything particularly impressive or noteworthy from his work as a community organizer and lawer. As a politician he seems to have avoided risk, controversial issues and tough decisions. He is a blank canvas on which his campaign advisors paint a picture that helps him on any given day, or with any given audience.
My personal issue is not that he has less experience, but that he has none. Not that he has made bad decisions, but that he has made none. The President's job is to take a stance, make the very toughest decisions and see them through. We all hope our next President has better judgment, priorities and criteria for making those though decisions than the current one. If Barack Obama is the next President, I pray he shows the kind of judgment, wisdom and strength that we have only heard him talk about.
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Jul 29, 2008
 
paul wrote:
Someone Might Want To Check Lincoln's Resume Before he Became President. Pretty Thin.
If Obama Had Been In The Senate And/Or Congress For The Last Ten Years,You Can Bet The Same People Bemoaning His Lack Of Experience Now Would Be Trashing His Recored During That Time!
Oh,And I Guess Trying To Give Something BACK To His Community Is Being A "Trouble Maker"!!
A simple look at Wikipedia for Lincoln's bio before becoming President in 1860:

- Lincoln began his political career in 1832, at age 23.

- He was elected captain of an Illinois militia company drawn from New Salem during the Black Hawk War, and later wrote that he had not had "any such success in life which gave him so much satisfaction."

- In 1834, he won election to the state legislature

- He served four successive terms in the Illinois House of Representatives as a representative from Sangamon County, and became a leader of the Illinois Whig party

- In 1837, he made his first protest against slavery in the Illinois House, stating that the institution was "founded on both injustice and bad policy."

- Admitted to the bar in 1837, that same year and began to practice law with John T. Stuart. With a reputation as a formidable adversary during cross-examinations and in his closing arguments, Lincoln became one of the most respected and successful lawyers in Illinois and grew steadily more prosperous.

- He served four successive terms in the Illinois House of Representatives as a representative from Sangamon County, and became a leader of the Illinois Whig party

- Lincoln was elected to a term in the U.S. House of Representatives in 1846. As a freshman House member, he was not a particularly powerful or influential figure.(LIKE Obama!)

- In one prominent 1851 case, he represented the Alton & Sangamon Railroad in a dispute with a shareholder, James A. Barret. He won this case, and the decision by the Illinois Supreme Court was eventually cited by several other courts throughout the United States

- Lincoln was involved in more than 5,100 cases in Illinois alone during his 23-year legal career. Lincoln and his partners appeared before the Illinois State Supreme Court more than 400 times.

- Lincoln returned to politics in response to the Kansas-Nebraska Act (1854), which expressly repealed the limits on slavery's extent as determined by the Missouri Compromise (1820).

- Drawing on remnants of the old Whig, Free Soil, Liberty and Democratic parties, he was instrumental in forming the new Republican Party.

Yes, thin, very thin. Comparing Obama to this great Republican is laughable.
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Jul 29, 2008
 
Barak made the smart move to write an autobiography explaining his trepid background and upbringing wretched with a terrible, bigoted, scary white grandmother but included his spiritual advisor the racist Rev. Wright as a significant mentor. He also got into bed with the scum like Tony Rezko during his community activist days and helped that puke make millions off of affordable housing projects funded by "Federal and State funds", which by the way are falling down slums today!

Your Messiah is rich, thanks to the kool-aid drinkers purchasing his phoney baloney books, contributing their hard earned money to his campaign (which is your choice not mine) and sucking off the political Chicago scum. Bundler's bringing in hundreds of thousands of dollars at a time from special interest groups corrupt as the day is long.

He has not served "his community" in any meaningful fashion other than supporting corruption through the political Chicao combine and lest we forget, the only way he was elected was through hiring lawyers to kick the other four minority (black) candidates off the ballot during his first campaign for state senator. His other election (US Senate) success was accomplished through a smear campaign against Jack Ryan, re: his divorce which in the end proved to be nothing but a combination of made up lies and fabrications. I suppose he'll attack MCCain eventually through the same methods.

The comments were about accomplishments, yet I see no kool-aid drinkers listing Sen. Obama's, just bashing Bush? Put down that beer professor it's too early for cocktails, Bush is not running for President
DailyGrind51
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#11
Monday Aug 11
 
Tamjak wrote:
Obama is running against McCain, not Bush. It's not relevant to compare Obama to Bush.
McCain now embraces Bush economic (permanent tax cuts and deregulation) and energy policies (additional off-shore drilling). Obama might as well be running against Bush!
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Monday Aug 11
 
paul wrote:
Someone Might Want To Check Lincoln's Resume Before he Became President. Pretty Thin.
WHAT!!??? Put down the bong. See KDB's post.

Yeah, Barak is gonna win, and how he'll do is a huge crapshoot.

What bothers me is the he's not running as President, he's running as Messiah. THAT scares me.
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Monday Aug 11
 
DailyGrind51 wrote:
I guess Barack made the error of not being born to a rich powerful political family who could bail him out of every failure so he would never be held accountable for his decisions, which, he believes, were inspired by God, rather than the self-serving people around him? I guess Barack should have been focusing on making himself rich, rather than serving his community, too? First term U.S. Senator, AND the next President of the United States. Deal with it!
Considering his negro-base is poverty stricken, had BO started a USA company producing A VALUED PRODUCT and made himself and another 500-local-workers wealthy, then he would have done more-good for more people than he ever will now.

Get the picture how it's done right ? Simpering advocates for Darwin-Award-Winning fools are NO friend of yours ...
Productive, job creating enterprise leaders deserve our full support.

That's NOT Rawlsian BO & that's not globalist neocon Mc$ame.

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