McCain: "I'm the Only One the Special Interests Don't Give Any Money To"

Feb 22, 2008 Full story: snafu-ed.blogspot.com 276
Oh, come on. I don't believe there is any candidate, at least at the national level, that doesn't get some money from special interest groups. And certainly someone as powerful as John McCain would. Full Story

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#179 Feb 25, 2008
Quote:
"For too long, McCain has been given a free pass by the media, which promotes campaign-finance reform to silence other voices, and by his Republican colleagues, who are concerned about alienating McCain given the GOP's tenuous majority in the Senate.
In John McCain's America, any politician who accepts a large contribution or gift from a donor, and then takes steps consistent with the donor's interests even though there is no legal quid pro quo is corrupt.
Well, then, by his own standard, McCain is corrupt.
McCain was one of the so-called "Keating Five" senators.
He was investigated by the Senate Select Committee on Ethics in 1991 regarding the acceptance of favors from Lincoln Savings & Loan Association (Lincoln) and its owner, Charles H. Keating, Jr.
Simply put, the issue was whether McCain and the other senators used their official positions to attempt to pressure Federal Home Loan Bank Board officials to go easy on the troubled institution. Eventually Lincoln went bust, costing depositors and taxpayers millions.
In its final report (November 20, 1991), here is what the Senate Select Committee on Ethics concluded about McCain's conduct:
"Mr. Keating, his associates, and his friends contributed $56,000 for Senator McCain's two House races in 1982 and 1984, and $54,000 for his 1986 Senate race.
Mr. Keating also provided his corporate plane and/or arranged for payment for the use of commercial or private aircraft on several occasions for travel by Senator McCain and his family, for which Senator McCain ultimately provided reimbursement when called upon to do so.
Mr. Keating also allowed Senator McCain and his family to vacation with Mr. Keating and his family, at a home provided by Mr. Keating in the Bahamas, in each of the calendar years 1983 through 1986.
"[F]rom 1984 to 1987, Senator McCain took actions on Mr. Keating's behalf or at his request. The Committee finds that Senator McCain had a basis for each of these actions independent of the contributions and benefits he received from Mr. Keating, his associates and friends.
"Based on the evidence available to it, the Committee has given consideration to Senator McCain's actions on behalf of Lincoln.
The Committee concludes that, given the personal benefits and campaign contributions he had received from Mr. Keating, Senator McCain exercised poor judgment in intervening with the regulators without first inquiring as to the Bank Board's position in the case in a more routine manner.
The Committee concludes that Senator McCain's actions were not improper nor attended with gross negligence and did not reach the level of requiring institutional action against him.
The Committee finds that Senator McCain took no further action after the April 9, 1987 meeting when he learned of a criminal referral.
"The Committee reaffirms its prior decision that it does not have jurisdiction to determine the issues of disclosure or reimbursement pertaining to flights provided by American Continental Corporation while Senator McCain was a Member of the House of Representatives. The Committee did consider the effect of such on his state of mind and judgment in taking steps to assist Lincoln.
"Senator McCain has violated no law of the United States or specific Rule of the United States Senate; therefore, the Committee concludes that no further action is warranted with respect to Senator McCain on the matters investigated during the preliminary inquiry."
McCain was the only Republican implicated in the Keating Five scandal, yet today he lectures his party and his president about "the corrupting influence" of money in politics.
He rails against the so-called "wealthy special interests" and their ability to buy access to elected officials, yet this is precisely what the Keating Five scandal was all about. And, of course, under McCain's current standard, a politician who takes a principled position that may benefit a donor is corrupt, even if no law has been violated.

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#180 Feb 25, 2008
jference wrote:
<quoted text>
I am an independent, but won't vote for Nader. Why waste a perfectly good vote?
I think voting for any of the Big 3 is a wasted vote.

Pew Research Projects Population Will Reach 438 Million in 2050; 82 Percent of Growth Attributable to Immigration
Last Monday, the Pew Research Center released a study which projects that U.S. population will grow by 48 percent between 2005 and 2050, and that 82 percent of this growth will come from immigration both legal and illegal to the United States. The report, authored by Jeffery S. Passel and D'Vera Cohn of the Pew Research Center, predicts that the population of the United States, which was 296 million in 2005, will be 438 million by 2050 if current trends continue. Of these 142 million additional people, 67 million will be immigrants and 50 million will represent the children or the grandchildren of these immigrants.(Pew Research Center, U.S. Population Projections: 2005-2050, February 11, 2008) The findings of the Pew Research Study are similar to that of a 2006 FAIR study which found the U.S. population in 2050 would be a minimum of 445 million.(Projecting the U.S. Population to 2050: Four Scenarios)
The report also estimates that between 2005 and 2050, the foreign-born population will more than double from 36 million to 81 million. As a result, the foreign-born share of the population will rise from 12 percent of the population in 2005 to nearly 19 percent of the population in 2050. Pew Research also estimates that sometime between 2020 and 2025, the foreign-born percentage of the population will exceed its historic peak of 14.8 percent reached in 1890. Commenting on these findings, Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies stated, "we need to ask ourselves if we want the 100 million more people immigration will bring. Do you want 80 million more cars on the road, or 40 million homes occupying what's now open space?" (Washington Post, February 12, 2008)
In announcing the report, co-author Jeffery Passel carefully pointed out that the projection is simply an extrapolation from current trends that could change through intervening events. For example, Passel pointed to its conclusions regarding the ethnic composition of the population in 2050, noting that it assumes the same definitions and categories used today will continue to be used in the next 50 years. Thus, predictions could change not only in the face of changed immigration policy, but due to shifting categories and perceptions about the population.(USAToday, February 11, 2008)
To read the Pew Research Center population in its entirety, click here.
Apathy

Indianapolis, IN

#181 Feb 25, 2008
Run Ralph Run wrote:
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And that, my friend, is precisely how Big Business controls and corrupts the Two Major Parties. "Bundling" contributions from Corporate Executives is how almost ALL Corporate largess makes its way into campaigns these days.
The PAC Money issue on the other hand, is a complete Red Herring. Pack Money is almost completely irrelevant, as you yourself seem to have inadvertently illustrated:
<quoted text>
Now just how far do you think one-million or half-a-millin dollars gets you in a modern presidential campaign? Pretty much nowhere is where it gets you.
Both the Democratic and the Republican Party dance to the tune which Corporate America calls. And "Bundling," not PACs, is how its done.
The bottom line is Barak Obama and the Democrats are every bit as bad and just as bought and sold as the Republicans.
That's why I'm voting Green Party.
That's why I support Ralph Nader.
And how far to you think $400,000 or so from Goldman Sachs employees goes when he has raised over $130 million?

Ralph Nader hasn't been relevant in almost 30 years, he just doesn't know it yet. He got 0.3% of the vote in 2004. Waste your vote if you want to. I am waiting for Ron Paul to go third party, the Radical Right will go for him and cripple McCain worse than now.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#182 Feb 25, 2008
Before The Hart-Celler Act of 1965 (Thank you Senator Kennedy)and the 1986 Amnesty Act ( Thank you Senator Kennedy) most Americans wanted population control in the US.Now we allow in around 2,000,000 legal immigrants a year plus their extended families,(Mother,Father,Sister ,Brother and their children.)That adds millions more.Then you have the 12-20 million illegal Aliens that Congress wants to give Amnesty to.If that's granted,then you have their extended families,which will add millions more.Then you have the 500,000 that still cross our southern border illegally each year.The US current population is 301,000,000,not to long ago we exported our surplus food,now we import half,In the near future 36 states will have a water shortage,Some studies show the US population at 450,000,000 by the year 2050.Has anyone ask their Congressman and Senators what quality of life our Children and Grand Children will have? Social Security,in 1996 the Social Security Administration signed an agreement with Mexico that will give Social Security payments to some of the 12-20 million illegal aliens once they are granted amnesty, total cost over 50 billion dollars a year.Add the 45 billion dollars each year that the American tax payer donates for illegal aliens free medical care,food stamps,WIC,rent assistance,free school lunches,and translators at schools for their children and we have a ticking time bomb.Amnesty for 12-20 million illegal aliens and endless immigration is not the answer.I encourage everyone to write their Congressman and Senators and ask them what the total cost to the American tax payer will be if they grant amnesty to those 12-20 million illegal aliens,after all you and I and our children will foot the bill for their decision
Run Ralph Run

AOL

#183 Feb 25, 2008
Apathy wrote:
<quoted text>
And how far to you think $400,000 or so from Goldman Sachs employees goes when he has raised over $130 million?
Ralph Nader hasn't been relevant in almost 30 years, he just doesn't know it yet. He got 0.3% of the vote in 2004. Waste your vote if you want to. I am waiting for Ron Paul to go third party, the Radical Right will go for him and cripple McCain worse than now.
I'm voting for Ralph, but I would absolutely be delighted if people voted for Ron Paul running as an independent or for the Libertarians etc.

All these votes would be the same in the sense that they send a message to the Big Two Unresponsive Parties that they can't take the voters for granted!

Whether your talking about supposedly "liberal" issues (such as protecting the Environment) or supposedly "conservative" issues (such as combating Illegal Immigration) nothing will ever be done as long as the TWO BIG PARTIES think they can get away with doing nothing and simply take their voters for granted because these voters have nowhere else to go.

Well we DO have other places to go, and we shouldn't be afraid to exercise our right to go there!

I say vote for Ralph Nader!

But if you don't want to vote for Nader, at least vote Third Party!

“Religion stops a thinking mind”

Since: Nov 07

Salt Lake City, UT

#184 Feb 25, 2008
Since he has the lobbyists actually lobbying FOR HIM to become president, he is technically accurate. (If not morally void)

“The more things change...”

Since: Feb 08

The more they stay the same!!!

#185 Feb 25, 2008
FedUpAmerican wrote:
Since he has the lobbyists actually lobbying FOR HIM to become president, he is technically accurate.(If not morally void)
Actually, they don't give money to any of them anymore. PACs do.
Getitright

Red Cliff, CO

#186 Feb 25, 2008
Looks like we are getting another holiday.
Caralee

Placentia, CA

#187 Feb 25, 2008
Go ahead and vote for Obama or Hillary and see what happens to your healthcare. You will have to wait for important surguries and mri's and there will be meds they will do away with. Socialized medicine will be a nightmare! That's why Canadaians have to come here to be taken care of. Healthcare is very important to me as I am older and probably need it more than young people. You don't realize this until you start to age. Also McCain is American hero, 5 years in a Viet Nam prison, being tortured how many of could do that? And to vote for Hillary just because she's a woman or Obama because he's black is just down right stupid. I will admit I like Obama but I'm just concerned for healthcare.
roswell old spirit

Phoenix, AZ

#188 Feb 25, 2008
JohnMcCain wrote:
Not true. I employ lobbyists on my campaign team, in addition to taking every red cent I can get.
McKing ?

;-)))))))))
roswell old spirit

Phoenix, AZ

#189 Feb 25, 2008
Run Ralph Run wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm voting for Ralph, but I would absolutely be delighted if people voted for Ron Paul running as an independent or for the Libertarians etc.
All these votes would be the same in the sense that they send a message to the Big Two Unresponsive Parties that they can't take the voters for granted!
Whether your talking about supposedly "liberal" issues (such as protecting the Environment) or supposedly "conservative" issues (such as combating Illegal Immigration) nothing will ever be done as long as the TWO BIG PARTIES think they can get away with doing nothing and simply take their voters for granted because these voters have nowhere else to go.
Well we DO have other places to go, and we shouldn't be afraid to exercise our right to go there!
I say vote for Ralph Nader!
But if you don't want to vote for Nader, at least vote Third Party!
Run 2 the club n party ?

;-)))))))))
roswell old spirit

Phoenix, AZ

#190 Feb 25, 2008
Michael Hazzard wrote:
I've got oceanfront property in Arizona...
;-)))))))))
Getitright

Red Cliff, CO

#191 Feb 25, 2008
Caralee wrote:
Go ahead and vote for Obama or Hillary and see what happens to your healthcare. You will have to wait for important surguries and mri's and there will be meds they will do away with. Socialized medicine will be a nightmare! That's why Canadaians have to come here to be taken care of. Healthcare is very important to me as I am older and probably need it more than young people. You don't realize this until you start to age. Also McCain is American hero, 5 years in a Viet Nam prison, being tortured how many of could do that? And to vote for Hillary just because she's a woman or Obama because he's black is just down right stupid. I will admit I like Obama but I'm just concerned for healthcare.
Wel, Obomus will not salute the flag. Weak minded. See what we have let into this country. I bet if he is elected you can not find one of these idiots to say they voted for him.

“Dragon Slayer”

Since: Jul 07

Antonito Colorado

#192 Feb 25, 2008
Richard wrote:
John McCain spent less than half the money that Romney did by the time Romney bowed out. McCain is spending less than half of what either Obama or Clinton are spending. He doesn't need the special interest money because he knows how to use money efficiently. Obama and Clinton do because efficiency is an alien concept to them. You'll see that reflected in your pocketbook if either of them gets elected.
Will McCain be a spend thrift Spartan like GW?:o)

“Dragon Slayer”

Since: Jul 07

Antonito Colorado

#193 Feb 25, 2008
Caralee wrote:
Go ahead and vote for Obama or Hillary and see what happens to your healthcare. You will have to wait for important surguries and mri's and there will be meds they will do away with. Socialized medicine will be a nightmare! That's why Canadaians have to come here to be taken care of. Healthcare is very important to me as I am older and probably need it more than young people. You don't realize this until you start to age. Also McCain is American hero, 5 years in a Viet Nam prison, being tortured how many of could do that? And to vote for Hillary just because she's a woman or Obama because he's black is just down right stupid. I will admit I like Obama but I'm just concerned for healthcare.
Uh duh, when they (Canadians or anyone else) pays for it. You'll always get what you pay for even if socialized medicine becomes available. It's just going to be a way to make sure that every citizen will be able to get some kind of help if they need it regardless of income or social status.

I had to wait a year for a hernia operation at the VA hospital in Denver. I'm not crying. I'm thankful. I couldn't pay for it. Now I have a new lease on life. Thank goodness for social medicine. I am physically 100%. I'm as strong and capable as ever. I can work.

How much is it costing to prop you up with healthcare?

Yes, McCain is very lucky that the VietCong had the heart to let him live so he could be here today. Afterall he was bombing them in their homeland. It wasn't the other way around. What, to stop the spread of communism? How lame is that? America has sold out all our industry to China for the most part. They're communist. It's just all too ridiculous and funny to me.
Wonderwall

Pleasanton, CA

#194 Feb 25, 2008
Edward Brewster wrote:
<quoted text>
Will McCain be a spend thrift Spartan like GW?:o)
McCain is a Reagan Republican when it comes to economics.
Wonderwall

Pleasanton, CA

#195 Feb 25, 2008
Edward Brewster wrote:
<quoted text>
Uh duh, when they (Canadians or anyone else) pays for it. You'll always get what you pay for even if socialized medicine becomes available. It's just going to be a way to make sure that every citizen will be able to get some kind of help if they need it regardless of income or social status.
I had to wait a year for a hernia operation at the VA hospital in Denver. I'm not crying. I'm thankful. I couldn't pay for it. Now I have a new lease on life. Thank goodness for social medicine. I am physically 100%. I'm as strong and capable as ever. I can work.
How much is it costing to prop you up with healthcare?
Yes, McCain is very lucky that the VietCong had the heart to let him live so he could be here today. Afterall he was bombing them in their homeland. It wasn't the other way around. What, to stop the spread of communism? How lame is that? America has sold out all our industry to China for the most part. They're communist. It's just all too ridiculous and funny to me.
Everyone is entitled to care at this point under the current system. It is federal law. Secondly, 25% of people who do not have coverage simply are not enrolled. Universal health care is going to change the whole system, raise our taxes, increase spending dramatically(nobody will care to curb costs because it's "free"), result in job loss and lower competition and quality---just to cover a small percentage of people. Those people can be covered without resorting to the lie of universal health care. You said you waited a year to get your operation, well be prepared to wait even longer with universal health care--and get poorer care. Britains program is equated with malpractice.

Furthermore, haven't you read McCains outline for veterans? You get a card to go to whatever doctor you want--free of charge. Hillary and Obama's plan would rather take your money with high taxes, and tell you what doctor to go to.
Wonderwall

Pleasanton, CA

#196 Feb 25, 2008
Under Hillary's plan, you can make $80,000 a year, and still get "FREE" coverage--except nothing is free. When you see the word "free" read "higher taxes for the working man."
Wonderwall

Pleasanton, CA

#197 Feb 25, 2008
Edward Brewster wrote:
<quoted text>
Uh duh, when they (Canadians or anyone else) pays for it. You'll always get what you pay for even if socialized medicine becomes available. It's just going to be a way to make sure that every citizen will be able to get some kind of help if they need it regardless of income or social status.
I had to wait a year for a hernia operation at the VA hospital in Denver. I'm not crying. I'm thankful. I couldn't pay for it. Now I have a new lease on life. Thank goodness for social medicine. I am physically 100%. I'm as strong and capable as ever. I can work.
How much is it costing to prop you up with healthcare?
Yes, McCain is very lucky that the VietCong had the heart to let him live so he could be here today. Afterall he was bombing them in their homeland. It wasn't the other way around. What, to stop the spread of communism? How lame is that? America has sold out all our industry to China for the most part. They're communist. It's just all too ridiculous and funny to me.
You may benefit to know that more Democrats have taken us to war than Republicans,..and it was the Democrats that escalated our involvement in Vietnam.
PAULiticsLover

United States

#198 Feb 25, 2008
Hello evryone, just passing by

McCain should stop bragging about being uncorrupt and unrelated to special interests, because Ron Paul outperforms him, RP is truly the uncorrupt politician

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