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St. Paul Public Schools superintendent keeps focus on students, she says

There are 64 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Dec 18, 2010, titled St. Paul Public Schools superintendent keeps focus on students, she says. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Getting ripped in public by the mayor was not the way Valeria Silva wanted to finish her first year as St.

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Incensed

Barron, WI

#30 Dec 19, 2010
stick it wrote:
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Why is it always the Republican who thinks and then the Democrat who uses emotion to make such a STUPID statement as the piece of crap writing above. I challenge you to think before you write. You moron. What a load of crap. Why don't you put down your philly blunt and your Iphone and run for Governor if you think everything is pie in the sky. Let me guess you receive Section 8 housing for your 6 fatherless kids and food stamps to feed the little bastards. RIGHT???????? Or you running around in your Caddy selling stolen goods from Sears. Which is it?
ALWAYS? Generalize much? Take a course in logical reasoning, please!
Oh my god

Saint Paul, MN

#31 Dec 20, 2010
Lord Haw Haw wrote:
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Poor baby Republidupe, reduced to blubbering by the facts. Notice, no argument about the facts just
personal attacks. That all you got righty?
You to are a MORON. Blubbering facts? What is that moron? Name one fact in the other response. You can't can you? Democrats think with emotion. It is how they spend their lives. Obama won the election fair and square. Based on his campaign promise to end both wars in 90 days. Go back and listen to his bull and you will see that I am correct. Guess what MORON. Both wars are STILL waging on and were on the verge of a Korean war again. Why? Because your beautiful Chocolate Jesus President does not have the balls to take out Kim Jong ILL. The problem is America has been deballed by people like you. Whining and crying everytime something does not go your way. A bunch of cry babies. Well guess what MORON. You get what you vote for. You get what you pay for. I bet that just went right over you simplistic brain. Please refrain from reproducing. The world is FULL of idiots like you. And we don't need anymore sucking the wealth from the PEOPLE that earn a living. You can't argue anything that I have just written. You know why? Because the TRUTH hurts. You boor. Your part of the problem and not the solution. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!
Oh my god

Saint Paul, MN

#32 Dec 20, 2010
Incensed wrote:
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ALWAYS? Generalize much? Take a course in logical reasoning, please!
HMMMM!! You so smart. Why don't you run for office. Since you have ALL the god damn answers. You dope. Logical reasoning? Is this some BS course you took at the U of M? Just because you took a class certainly does not mean you have any above average intelligence. And it SHOWS pal.
Adam

Blue Bell, PA

#33 Dec 20, 2010
Dick L wrote:
<quoted text> I think a lot of teachers want to be the students friend rather than teacher. I also think teachers are the scapecoat for bad administrations and poor policys as well as lack of parenting. There are however some lousy teachers out there.
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If you really know the SPPS system well, then you also know that bad administrators are very good at turning good teachers into bad ones. And it doesn't take long...
whatev

Minneapolis, MN

#34 Dec 20, 2010
the streets in St. Paul still suck.
Madman

Minneapolis, MN

#35 Dec 20, 2010
Ms. Silva is doing a great job. The problems lies with the administrators and their egos. Take for example a certain school on the east side. The Principal refuses to support multi-culture events and put all her support and money into the basketball program. All you get are kids coming from Chicago for the basketball programs and other groups are leaving for charter schools. These kids from chicago are reading at the 3rd and 4th grade level.
Incensed

Barron, WI

#36 Dec 20, 2010
Oh my god wrote:
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HMMMM!! You so smart. Why don't you run for office. Since you have ALL the god damn answers. You dope. Logical reasoning? Is this some BS course you took at the U of M? Just because you took a class certainly does not mean you have any above average intelligence. And it SHOWS pal.
Off-base assumptions, more generalizations (implied), and personal attacks from you, along with cursing. Sounds tough, but it's nothing but weak rhetoric.
Johnson Govie supporter

Saint Paul, MN

#37 Dec 20, 2010
Madman wrote:
Ms. Silva is doing a great job. The problems lies with the administrators and their egos. Take for example a certain school on the east side. The Principal refuses to support multi-culture events and put all her support and money into the basketball program. All you get are kids coming from Chicago for the basketball programs and other groups are leaving for charter schools. These kids from chicago are reading at the 3rd and 4th grade level.
That "certain school" must be Johnson High School. JHS did win the 3A State Boys Basketball championship last year. You seem to be saying that a school can only excel at one activity, and that the school administration can only support one team. That is just simply not true.
In the last few weeks, Johnson has had an fantastic Hmong New Year's celebration; a great Choir/Orchestra/Band Winter concert; the wrestling, girl's gymnastic, hockey, and boy's basketball have all attended out-of-town tournaments, and every week groups of Aztec dancers and and mostly Asian breakdancers are practicing. The Motion Crew has performed at half-times in the state basketball tournament games.
It sounds like you harbor some bitterness towards Johnson High School. Maybe you should figure out where it's really coming from - because it sure as heck isn't because the JHS principal only supports basketball and the the team is made up of kids from Chicago. Those statements are so false that they're laughable.
The Big Bopper

Saint Paul, MN

#38 Dec 20, 2010
GAG
Dick L

Saint Paul, MN

#39 Dec 20, 2010
Madman wrote:
Ms. Silva is doing a great job. The problems lies with the administrators and their egos. Take for example a certain school on the east side. The Principal refuses to support multi-culture events and put all her support and money into the basketball program. All you get are kids coming from Chicago for the basketball programs and other groups are leaving for charter schools. These kids from chicago are reading at the 3rd and 4th grade level.
But man, can they dribble!!
Le Jumbo de Clown

Minneapolis, MN

#41 Dec 20, 2010
The biggest decision was a school day. I can't get my kids out of the St Paul schools and out of this piss hole city fast enough!
Mayor Worthless

Garden City, MI

#42 Dec 21, 2010
I'm not a fan of Ms. Silva. However, she made the right decision regarding the safety of my child. To catch the bus, my 9 year old would have to stand in the icey street to wait for it. I now drive her to school. How mature not to publicly spar with a Mayor who publicly picks on other to push blame for his failed department and leadership. Who will he select tp pick on for his less than stellar pot hole crew? What exactly does my tax dollar pay for??
Joe Blow

Minneapolis, MN

#43 Dec 21, 2010
This woman needs to go to a Private school and learn ENGLISH.
Joe Blow

Minneapolis, MN

#44 Dec 21, 2010
Johnson Govie supporter wrote:
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That "certain school" must be Johnson High School. JHS did win the 3A State Boys Basketball championship last year. You seem to be saying that a school can only excel at one activity, and that the school administration can only support one team. That is just simply not true.
In the last few weeks, Johnson has had an fantastic Hmong New Year's celebration; a great Choir/Orchestra/Band Winter concert; the wrestling, girl's gymnastic, hockey, and boy's basketball have all attended out-of-town tournaments, and every week groups of Aztec dancers and and mostly Asian breakdancers are practicing. The Motion Crew has performed at half-times in the state basketball tournament games.
It sounds like you harbor some bitterness towards Johnson High School. Maybe you should figure out where it's really coming from - because it sure as heck isn't because the JHS principal only supports basketball and the the team is made up of kids from Chicago. Those statements are so false that they're laughable.
Tell me why we can have a Hmong New Year celebration but we cannot have Christmas.
DFL Donald

Minneapolis, MN

#45 Dec 21, 2010
Oh my god wrote:
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HMMMM!! You so smart. Why don't you run for office. Since you have ALL the god damn answers. You dope. Logical reasoning? Is this some BS course you took at the U of M? Just because you took a class certainly does not mean you have any above average intelligence. And it SHOWS pal.
We cannot have God Damn answers in the Public School system. It is Unconstitutional don't you know!
lol

Dresser, WI

#46 Dec 21, 2010
Cops also focus on children. This has ruined generations of our youth so a greedy few can prevail. Leave our children alone needs to be America`s next slogan towards the just us system. This would make her great.
AntiMelting

Garden City, MI

#47 Dec 21, 2010
lol wrote:
Cops also focus on children. This has ruined generations of our youth so a greedy few can prevail. Leave our children alone needs to be America`s next slogan towards the just us system. This would make her great.
Maybe when you start caring for your own keeds we can stop subsidizing their lives due to a lack of your planning.
Jeepers

Saint Paul, MN

#48 Dec 21, 2010
SuperNintendo Chalmers!!!

Since: Jun 09

Olathe, KS

#49 Dec 21, 2010
Incensed wrote:
"On the most fundamental issues affecting kids, however, St. Paul continues to do well with some — primarily the white and relatively affluent — and not as well with the poor and students of color.
From 2007, after Silva took over as chief academic officer, through 2010, proficiency among black students rose 6 points in math and 5 points in reading. That's about the rate of improvement for black students statewide, and it outpaces gains in Minneapolis.
But whites have been gaining by similar amounts, leaving the gap in St. Paul between white and black proficiency essentially unchanged, with whites ahead by about 40 percentage points. "
Obviously, the causes of this gap lie outside the school and out of its control. The good news is that all student groups are making progress. Contrary to what we've been told, education is not a race, so let's stop pitting kids and communities against each other.
I understand that this is what the numbers say, but I always get confused when it comes to what should be done about it. The kids are in the same classroom receiving the same information. Are people suggesting that teachers should teach children of color differently?

I also don't understand the link between affluence and achievement. My mom sometimes couldn't even keep food on the table and the utilities on, yet I still graduated valedictorian, scored a 30 on my ACT and picked the college of my choice. Also done with not a whole lot of support at home. I think some kids just understand that education is the key and some don't. And when they see parents putting forth no effort and letting the government take care of them, they think it's ok for them too.

I just don't think it has anything to do with skin color or economic status. It is mostly the result of parenting. Of course, there are still some thick headed kids who will watch the parents work hard and still blow off school. I also don't know what the schools can do that they aren't already doing.
Illusion Destroyer

Chicago, IL

#50 Dec 21, 2010
When are educators and journalists going to start describing the black/white achievement gap in the only mathematically meaningful and valid way -- in terms of standard deviations? Measuring the gap in standard deviations is the only valid way to know if the gap is closing or not. I am sick of reading meaningless statistics in news reports such as "the gap between the black and white proficiency rates has closed to 32 percentage points difference, while both black and white scores have gone up." In you know the basics of statistics, you know that if the state proficiency tests are made easier, so that most black and whites students can pass it, the difference between the white and black proficiency rates will drop, but that doesn't mean that the relative difference between blacks and whites has declined--as New York found out when it re-instituted somewhat harder tests and found that New York City's vaunted closing of the achievement gap was a statistical illusion. Over the past century, the black/white achievement gap has mirrored the black/white IQ gap, both of which have held more or less historically constant at about one standard deviation, with only a very slight decline in the 1970s and 1980s that has not continued into the present. Until some school district can show a reduction of the standard deviation, we have nothing to celebrate. We have the mathematical tools to measure the gap. Why not use them?

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