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Since: Mar 08

Novato, CA

#1 Oct 25, 2008
Why is nuclear considered non-renewable?
Novato-Nova

Rohnert Park, CA

#2 Oct 26, 2008
Hmmm...Sign on the dotted line and then we will tell you how much you are going to pay? Yes my PG&E bill has increased, but so have all of my other expenses.****Think about it...Shopping organic at Farmers Market (local), or Organic at Safeway (corporate), which one is cheaper? Just like buying organic, I want to use green energy, but I can't afford the risk. Everyone in Marin isn't RICH (especially now after you lost 40% of your 401k, your vacation home, healthcare benefits, and your job).
Think Twice

Novato, CA

#3 Oct 26, 2008
It's hard to believe Marin Clean Energy will provide green energy at the same rates as PG&E. If people want to pay more, fine. But the real danger here is that all of these people will sign up for Marin Clean Energy thinking the rates will be the same, and when the rates turn out to be higher, many of them will switch back to PG&E and Marin Clean Energy will get in trouble. Even if the cities and towns aren't supposed to be liable for the debts of Marin Clean Energy, it's totally plausible they'll step in anyway. Ever hear the "It's too big to fail" argument? Oh, yeah, that was to rescue the country from the housing crisis that was perpetrated by misguided government policy (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, deregulation: pick your poison). We've got our own little finanical crisis in the making right here. And we've already sunk $527,000 of taxpayer/rate payer money into this project.

PG&E is overstating the risks, but Marin County is certainly understating them. EVERYONE has an agenda.

Marin Clean Energy seems to think the government will be able to run a more efficient and cost-effective enterprise than a private company. What evidence out in the real world is there to support that idea?
Frank

Petaluma, CA

#4 Oct 26, 2008
"green energy" is very expnsive. Period. This is yet anothee feel-good Marin half baked idea to try and run your life for you--- cause the enviro nazi's know what's best for you. Cities would have to go into the energy business. EACH city would be it's own entity. It's prohibitively costly in a number of ways.. and one way the greenies may not have considered is that this scheme takes money from others who need it... like folks who are really broke and living on the edege.. like old folks.
94903 Land

Fremont, CA

#5 Oct 27, 2008
"But for David Haskell of Sausalito, who spoke next, this isn't a pocketbook issue.
"It's the single greatest opportunity we have to address global climate chaos," Haskell said of the Marin Clean Energy plan."

Good for David Haskell who apparently isn't fazed by the recent economy and says that this isn't a "pocketbook issue." Glad you have extra money to throw at your utility bill, Mr. Haskell. Contrary to what you say, this is totally about "the pocketbook" for the majority of us who are living paycheck-to-paycheck and who are faced daily with increasing costs of groceries, gas, insurance, etc. not to mention being asked to have our sales tax increased for Measure Q on this year's ballot. It's all too much. I am sticking with PG&E who has been in the power business a long time and for much of my lifetime I can only remember two power outages since I have lived here (45 years). I just can't see a local entity in Marin trying to manage this huge effort plus not being able to tell us how much this will cost except to say it might be 20% more. No thanks.

Since: Mar 08

Novato, CA

#6 Oct 27, 2008
Climate "chaos"??????? What happened to global warming? I guess all the record breaking cold (everywhere but here it has been colder) and the fact that the warming trend pooped out in 1998. The current Farmers Almanac predicts a long period of global cooling. So, then it was Climate Change. Redundant (climate=change), and just not scary enough apparently. The major advantage, is that if we are heading for a mini ice age, that could certainly be called "chaos".

Global Chaotic Cooling will definitely make utility rates the top concern of almost all voters.

Since: Sep 08

San Rafael, CA

#7 Oct 27, 2008
Pharaoh wrote:
Why is nuclear considered non-renewable?
And, why is hydroelectric considered non-renewable? Assuming we return to normal rain patterns, it is certainly renewable.

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