Roy Orbison - The Soul of Rock & Roll

Roy Orbison - The Soul of Rock & Roll

There are 230 comments on the RollingStone story from Sep 16, 2008, titled Roy Orbison - The Soul of Rock & Roll. In it, RollingStone reports that:

Roy Orbison was a superhero of song. Unassuming in appearance, he became someone extraordinary when his weeping tenor took flight, rising from deep, dark places on anguished ballads like "Only the Lonely" and ...

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Bob Waterhouse

Manchester, UK

#1 Oct 1, 2008
A great box set with previously tracks and rarities unreleased tracks
if you like great music you will love this collection

Since: Sep 08

London, UK

#2 Oct 6, 2008
Greatest ever singer

Not my words, the words of Elvis Arron Presley
Lee

United States

#3 Oct 7, 2008
Mark Edginton - Rugby wrote:
Greatest ever singer
Not my words, the words of Elvis Arron Presley
How can you like Roy Orbison and not Elvis? Anyone who loves one love the other.

Since: Jul 08

KELOWNA

#4 Oct 7, 2008
Lee wrote:
<quoted text>How can you like Roy Orbison and not Elvis? Anyone who loves one love the other.
He didn't say he dosn't like Elvis. The quote from Elvis is correct he thought Roy Orbison was something special. I went and saw him perform in Memphis a month before he died a real talent and a true star. He would get my vote for "the greatest".
Jim Burrows

Managua, Nicaragua

#5 Oct 7, 2008
When he started, Roy Orbison could not have inspired the thousands of musicians which Elvis inspired, without as much as any one of those listeners having taken a single look at him, either on a picture, or on television, let alone in a movie theatre.

Orbison was just blown away by hearing Presley's voice, on radio, then immediately (not on the next day, not the next week), decided his life's work would be dedicated to recording music, as opposed to continue doing what he was doing before he listened to Elvis, which was being a Disc Jockey.

Then, when he saw him live, he was blown away even more.

And how do I know that Orbison, in the beggining, could not have inspired anyone, let alone thousands, as Presley did?

Just listen to "Trying to get to you", recorded by the two, less than three months apart.

Which moves you to want to become a singer?

That Presley considered Orbison the greatest voice in rock is a testament to Orbison, who worked as hard as anyone to become what he later became. But without Presley to inspire him, as a singer, not as a performer mind you, Orbison would have not even become a singer. Think about that...
Jim Burrows

Managua, Nicaragua

#6 Oct 7, 2008
Now, the same can be said of Presley, e.g, that he was inspired also to become a singer, after listening to someone sing either on radio, or from the sounds he heard across the street, whilst in Tupelo, or after hearing his parents' extensive and quite ecclectic record collection, in an old record player.

Yes, but the difference lies in that Presley' unerring ear was not impressed by the voice of anyone in particular.

Quite to the contrary, Elvis was blown away ( and he absorbed it, like a hard disk would, nowadays), by a palette of voices coming from the lungs and vocal chords of a group of singers so large, and diverse, in intonation and inflection, that it defies reason to even comprehend it.

That is why Presley could cover as many musical idioms as he did, credibly, that is, and still end up sounding like Elvis, even if the voice told you it could not have been him, at the first hearing.

Since: Jul 08

KELOWNA

#7 Oct 7, 2008
Jim maybe you should read up a little more on Roy Orbison.

“....may God bless you, Adios”

Since: Jul 07

Viva Las Vegas

#8 Oct 7, 2008
I liked Roy Orbinson music as a young person I had an album mixed in among all my Elvis music. Looking back I think the only albums I had as a teen in the early 60's that were not Elvis albums were a Roy Orbinson album and a Ral Donner album. I just didn't bother much with anyone, but Elvis...so for me to have those other two fellow's albums says something postitive about them.

I never had any of the Beatles or other English invasion music of the 60's (though all my friends did). It was Elvis' sound that touched me. The Elvis sound is still the sound I prefer after all these years.

Since: Sep 08

London, UK

#9 Oct 8, 2008
Roy Orbison, ended up in the Travelling Wilbury's respected by other giants of the rock world who wanted the greatest singer in their band
Jim Burrows

Managua, Nicaragua

#10 Oct 8, 2008
My point, Dolbyscat, was that in the beggining, Orbison could not inspire the thousands of musicians which Elvis Presley did inspire, not just to try the guitar, and so on, or to have a garage band, and so on and so forth, but actually stop whatever they were doing at the time and decide, right threre, to make music their life's work. I don't need to read anything that I haven't on Roy Orbison, because there is no empirical, visual, written, or anyn other evidence that he did inspire them, in the beginning, to drop whatever was they were doing and take up music as a prefession, I repat, as a profession. The list of would be musicians who were inspired by Presley to do precisely that is so long, that another thread deals with it, right here in this same message board.

So, it is you, and not I, that needs to read better, and more, not on Orbison, here or or elsewhere, but in this same message board.
Jim Burrows

Managua, Nicaragua

#11 Oct 8, 2008
Roy Orbison may have ended up in the Travelling Wilbury's, and he may have been extremely well respected by the other 5 members of the group because they wanted a fantastic singer in their band, but four of the six, namely George Harrison, Bob Dylan, Tom Petty and Roy Orbison, himself, have cited Presley, who was already dead when the group was formed and therefore could not have been their first choice, as their greatest influence.

Not only that, but on June 10, 1972 (when Roy Orbison was alive....), it was George Harrison, Bob Dylan, John Lennon, David Bowie, Paul Simon, Robert Plant and Jimmy Page who paid, out of their own pockets, to hear the voice of their favourite singer, at New York's madison Square Garden.

I have no doubt that no other singer on earth has ever summoened that kind of attention from such an outstanding peer group. That, also present that night, were future Nobel Prize winners, and others equally distinguished individuals, in every field of human endeavour, and that they all knew that going there was just an event, as opposed to a Tony, Golden Globe, or Kennedy center presentation is proof that, after all, what they wanted to hear, and see, was Elvis...
Jim Burrows

Managua, Nicaragua

#12 Oct 8, 2008
Sorry, I meant the other 4 members of the group

"Roy Orbison may have ended up in the Travelling Wilbury's, and he may have been extremely well respected by the other 4 members of the group because they wanted a fantastic singer in their band, but 4 of the 5, namely George Harrison, Bob Dylan, Tom Petty and Roy Orbison, himself, have cited Presley, who was already dead when the group was formed and therefore could not have been their first choice, as their greatest influence.

Not only that, but on June 10, 1972 (when Roy Orbison was alive....), it was George Harrison, Bob Dylan, John Lennon, David Bowie, Paul Simon, Robert Plant and Jimmy Page who paid, out of their own pockets, to hear the voice of their favourite singer, at New York's madison Square Garden.

I have no doubt that no other singer on earth has ever summoened that kind of attention from such an outstanding peer group. That, also present that night, were future Nobel Prize winners, and others equally distinguished individuals, in every field of human endeavour, and that they all knew that going there was just an event, as opposed to a Tony, Golden Globe, or Kennedy center presentation is proof that, after all, what they wanted to hear, and see, was Elvis...

Since: Jul 08

KELOWNA

#13 Oct 8, 2008
I bow to your superior knowledge of all things musical Jim. I will certainly try "to read better" in the future. My hope would be that you at the same time would learn to write betterer.LOL.
Jim Burrows

Managua, Nicaragua

#14 Oct 9, 2008
Hey Dolbyscat. No need to bow but, as far as learning to write better, please note that as I sit on myy computer tio write messages in this here thread, I neither have the inclination, nor the time to check any of my messages for errors. This is not a spelling contest and you should know that.

Since: Jul 08

KELOWNA

#15 Oct 9, 2008
Jim my comment was made in jest (humour).
Jim Burrows

Managua, Nicaragua

#16 Oct 9, 2008
Right, I noticed that, but only after my message was already sent. Cheers
Jim

“Elvis News Ireland”

Since: Sep 07

Swords, County Dublin.

#17 Oct 9, 2008
Roy Orbison had a great voice and at his best was a wonderful vocalist. I saw him perform at a night club in Manchester UK in the 70s.

Elvis was in a league all his own.

http://irelandtoo.blogspot.com

Since: Jul 08

KELOWNA

#18 Oct 9, 2008
Whats more it was a great voice across FOUR octaves.

Since: Mar 08

Ottawa

#19 Oct 9, 2008
dolbyscat wrote:
I bow to your superior knowledge of all things musical Jim. I will certainly try "to read better" in the future. My hope would be that you at the same time would learn to write betterer.LOL.
you know you shouldnt be so impressed by what people can bring on the table as information , all of this is available on the net if you know how to google properly you can sound like the smartest man alive ! no offense Jim
Jim Burrows

Managua, Nicaragua

#20 Oct 9, 2008
Orbison had a three and a half octave voice and every one of those octaves sounded the same. Presley had a two and and half octave voice yet he could (and probably basked at the idea that it would be nice to) sound totally different, at a moment's notice.

One of the reasons Presley outsold, and still outsells Orbison, in the US, by a ten to one margin and, globally, by a 20 to one margin is precisely related to the capacity of the human ear to adapt, and be interested in listening to a particular voice day in, day out, decade in, decade out, for close to fifty three years now.

And no other single voice, since the advent of the recorder, can be as ecclectic, and acceptable, to so many different ears, obver such a long period of time, as that of one Elvis Presley.

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