Dharmendra-- the under-appreciated su...
A M Ganguly-Allahaba d

India

#42 Dec 3, 2006
Harsh Thakor wrote:
Comparing the 2 stars Rajesh Khanna and Dharmendra is like comparing chalk with Cheese.Dharmendra was basically a he-man who pioneered the role of Indian film Industry's first he -man.Though he did some romantic leads he basically acted as an action heroand i scenes of vengeance he was a champion.Rajesh Khanna basically did romantic leads and never played an action hero like Amitabh Bachan,or Dharmendra.
In pure talent Kakaji is ahead of Papaji(Dharmendra) and had a more natural style.However he often got carried away in projecting his own star image and ultimately we saw Rajesh Khanna ,the star and not the actor most of the time.(Monotonous stye)Only in Anand,Amar Prem,Do Raaste.Biwarchi Bawarchi or Safar did we experience his true prowess in character roles.True he was the first superstar,a jesus Christ in his days like no one before or after but after that period he could hardly mantain his stardom,unlike Amitabh Bachan,DEv Anand ,Dilip Kumar or Dharmendrawho were Bolywood's marathon men.It was more that people wanted a character like him.Dharmendra stood up for almost 3decades and was effective in comedy and character roles like in Satyakam,Anupama,Chupke Chupke and to a certain extent in Sholay.It is a remarkable achievement that an action hero could give his in romantic and idealist films.
Ultimatey both could be called graet stars but perpaps not truly great versatile actors like Amitabh Bachan ,Sanjeev Kumar,Amir Khan or Balraj Sahni.It might well be that they were hardly given the oppurtunity to enact true charcter roles and basically cast in a stero-typed manner.THe pleasure the 2 men gave us is unforgetable.
Your analysis is not purely unbiased. Some facts are logical but to say Rajesh Khanna's performance as monotonous and ignoring him as truly great versatile actor in comparison to Amitabh, Sanjev Kumar, Amir Khan or Balraj Sahni is most unjustifiable. In your another posting under some other topic of this Forum, you have also included the name of Dilip Kumar, Dev Anand, Dharmendra also in term of long running stars (Merathon word you have used).

First of all Sir, Rajesh Khanna has still maintained his most dignified position as the First Super Star of Indian Cinema and as an class Actor in the hearts of million film viewers for the last four decades only owing to his exceptional versatility. Just compare him in Amar Prem and Prem Nagar; Red Rose and Dhanwaan; Mehabooba and Anurodh, Avataar and Amrit, Rajput and Janta Hawaldar, etc. His super versatility will automatically apparent before you.

Secondly in your selection list, the fact is that Amitabh, Dev Anand and Dilip Kumar are the real monotous or the most typed performers. Sanjeev Kumar and Balraj Sahni are the real actors but they did not have any star value any time. They were only actors. Amir Khan can not be compared with any of them, because he mostly appears maintaining a long long gap and his career duration is far far less than everybody in question. But it is only Rajesh Khanna, who established himself as a most versatile actor despite of his historic Super Star Image, as he always appeared mostly in author backed roles with different theme and characters (simultaneously in about five six films in a year). Moreover, in similar type of characters too, he has shown his tremendous versatile performance, because his performance directly comes through heart and in emotional scenes he is deeply involved with the characters. His facial expressions are also uncomparable. So Sir, be logical and unbiased and compare the standard and capability of characterization, which is the most significant fact for long term impact.
Mohan Raj

India

#43 Dec 4, 2006
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO OUR SUPERSTAR AND KING OF KINGS AND LONGLIVE RAJESH KHANNA
Herobhai

Beijing, China

#45 Dec 13, 2006
Interesting discussion on Rajesh-Dharmendra. I think the main issue is whether we accept the media label of who is a superstar, or embrace the real meaning of the word, regardless of how the media used it.

The fact is, the Indian media first used the word superstar with Rajesh bhai. But that means nothing. In the true sense of the word, Dilip Kumar, Dharmendra, Rajesh, Amitabh, were all superstars. Each had different qualities, but they were superstars.

At this peak, Rajesh bhai went higher than anyone else. It's also true that of the four names, Dharamji is the least best actor. But Dharam held his own against Rajesh and Amitabh. Rajesh could not do that.

Dharam also has another indescribable quality that has endeared him to people. Even today, if Rajesh and Dharmendra step on the road the janta will go mad trying to see/touch the hearty jat and almost ignore Rajesh. I have seen this for myself.

Lastly, while Rajesh is a better actor, Dharamji was more versatile - he did sensitive roles, tough roles, funny roles, character roles and even played the villian (Ayi Milin Ki Bela).

PS: Going by technical, financial terms, Dharmendra has more hit films (60) than any other Indian star.
Abhijit K -Roy

India

#46 Dec 17, 2006
Herobhai wrote:
Interesting discussion on Rajesh-Dharmendra. I think the main issue is whether we accept the media label of who is a superstar, or embrace the real meaning of the word, regardless of how the media used it.
The fact is, the Indian media first used the word superstar with Rajesh bhai. But that means nothing. In the true sense of the word, Dilip Kumar, Dharmendra, Rajesh, Amitabh, were all superstars. Each had different qualities, but they were superstars.
At this peak, Rajesh bhai went higher than anyone else. It's also true that of the four names, Dharamji is the least best actor. But Dharam held his own against Rajesh and Amitabh. Rajesh could not do that.
Dharam also has another indescribable quality that has endeared him to people. Even today, if Rajesh and Dharmendra step on the road the janta will go mad trying to see/touch the hearty jat and almost ignore Rajesh. I have seen this for myself.
Lastly, while Rajesh is a better actor, Dharamji was more versatile - he did sensitive roles, tough roles, funny roles, character roles and even played the villian (Ayi Milin Ki Bela).
PS: Going by technical, financial terms, Dharmendra has more hit films (60) than any other Indian star.
WHETHER IT IS DHARMENDRA, DILIP KUMAR OR AMITABH, THEY ALWAYS LOOK THEMSELVES ON THE SCREEN AND NOT THE CHARACTERS. BUT IT IS RAJESH KHANNA, WHO INSTEAD OF HIS HISTORIC SUPER STAR IMAGE, LOOKS DIFFERENT CHARACTERS IN DIFFERENT FILMS (EVEN THERE IS LITTLE SCOPE IN COMMERCIAL ENVIRONMENT).

SEE AAJ KA MLA RAM AVATAAR-- FROM BARBER-MLA-CHIEF MINISTER-BARBER. WHAT A CLASSIC CHARACTERIZATION AND VERSATILITY.
Abhijit K -Roy

India

#47 Dec 17, 2006
Herobhai wrote:
Interesting discussion on Rajesh-Dharmendra. I think the main issue is whether we accept the media label of who is a superstar, or embrace the real meaning of the word, regardless of how the media used it.
The fact is, the Indian media first used the word superstar with Rajesh bhai. But that means nothing. In the true sense of the word, Dilip Kumar, Dharmendra, Rajesh, Amitabh, were all superstars. Each had different qualities, but they were superstars.
At this peak, Rajesh bhai went higher than anyone else. It's also true that of the four names, Dharamji is the least best actor. But Dharam held his own against Rajesh and Amitabh. Rajesh could not do that.
Dharam also has another indescribable quality that has endeared him to people. Even today, if Rajesh and Dharmendra step on the road the janta will go mad trying to see/touch the hearty jat and almost ignore Rajesh. I have seen this for myself.
Lastly, while Rajesh is a better actor, Dharamji was more versatile - he did sensitive roles, tough roles, funny roles, character roles and even played the villian (Ayi Milin Ki Bela).
PS: Going by technical, financial terms, Dharmendra has more hit films (60) than any other Indian star.
The fact is, the Indian media first used the word superstar with Rajesh bhai. But that means nothing.

Reply: No that means everything. First time used word SUPERSTAR for Rajesh bhai clearly indicates that it was the first time when Indian film world saw an unique and tremendous mix-up of glamour and art. Within a very little span of time, Rajesh Khanna has shown his versatility in films like Anand, Amar Prem, Kati Patang, Dushman, Aradhana, Aap ki Kasam, Safar, Anurag,Malik, Joru Ka Gulam, Mere jivan Saathi, Haathi Mere Saathi, Apna Desh, Khamoshi, Ittefaque, Do Raste, Prem Nagar, Roti, etc.etc. in late 1960's to mid 1970's (1969-1974). Although he has maintained his status as glorified performer during 1975 onwards, however, his star status was much affected owing to several reasons, which are not matter of discussion this time. But as a most powerful actor, he is still unparallel.
Harsh Thakor

Mumbai, India

#48 Dec 18, 2006
Herobhai wrote:
Interesting discussion on Rajesh-Dharmendra. I think the main issue is whether we accept the media label of who is a superstar, or embrace the real meaning of the word, regardless of how the media used it.
The fact is, the Indian media first used the word superstar with Rajesh bhai. But that means nothing. In the true sense of the word, Dilip Kumar, Dharmendra, Rajesh, Amitabh, were all superstars. Each had different qualities, but they were superstars.
At this peak, Rajesh bhai went higher than anyone else. It's also true that of the four names, Dharamji is the least best actor. But Dharam held his own against Rajesh and Amitabh. Rajesh could not do that.
Dharam also has another indescribable quality that has endeared him to people. Even today, if Rajesh and Dharmendra step on the road the janta will go mad trying to see/touch the hearty jat and almost ignore Rajesh. I have seen this for myself.
Lastly, while Rajesh is a better actor, Dharamji was more versatile - he did sensitive roles, tough roles, funny roles, character roles and even played the villian (Ayi Milin Ki Bela).
PS: Going by technical, financial terms, Dharmendra has more hit films (60) than any other Indian star.
I am thoroughly impressed with your rational analysis.True,Rajesh Khanna had more natural ability and flair but he did not have Dharmendra's personality and abilty who was succesful in the eras of superstars like Dilip Kumar ,Rajesh Khanna and Amitabh Bachan.(Even Vinod Khanna with whom he acted with many a time)Dharmendra stood up like a marathon runner for 3 decades and although not as natural did a wider spectrum of roles.Rajesh Khanna,brilliant in Anand,Safar,Amar Pre Etc could hardly play and action hero and was also self -conscious.I was suprised to know that Dharmendra did more hit films than any hero.
Abhijit K -Roy

India

#49 Dec 19, 2006
Harsh Thakor wrote:
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I am thoroughly impressed with your rational analysis.True,Rajesh Khanna had more natural ability and flair but he did not have Dharmendra's personality and abilty who was succesful in the eras of superstars like Dilip Kumar ,Rajesh Khanna and Amitabh Bachan.(Even Vinod Khanna with whom he acted with many a time)Dharmendra stood up like a marathon runner for 3 decades and although not as natural did a wider spectrum of roles.Rajesh Khanna,brilliant in Anand,Safar,Amar Pre Etc could hardly play and action hero and was also self -conscious.I was suprised to know that Dharmendra did more hit films than any hero.
Dear Thakor Sahib,

See Rajesh Khanna's performance in Rajpoot (with Dharmendra and Vinod Khanna)and in Ashanti (with Mithun, the registered action heros of indian film world). He has also performed much smart action roles in Sachha Jhuta, Roti, Chaila Babu, Chalta Purza, Dharam Kanta, Bandish, etc.

However, real acting talent can be judged through emotional roles, for which Rajesh Khanna is called the undisputed KING of Indian Film World. One point more that when other stars perform emotional or romantic roles, the absence of Rajesh Khanna is felt through heart. But when Rajesh Khanna performs in action films, no body can say he is misfit in action films, because as per need, he can mould himself as most glamorous and smart one. Compare his characterization in Dard with Dhanwaan; the unlimited range of his performance ability is apparent.
IN BRIEF, RAJESH KHANNA NEVER LOOKS RAJESH KHANNA ON SCREEN, LIKE OTHER STARS.
Sulena Dash-USA

Jaunpur, India

#50 Dec 19, 2006
Abhijit K -Roy wrote:
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WHETHER IT IS DHARMENDRA, DILIP KUMAR OR AMITABH, THEY ALWAYS LOOK THEMSELVES ON THE SCREEN AND NOT THE CHARACTERS. BUT IT IS RAJESH KHANNA, WHO INSTEAD OF HIS HISTORIC SUPER STAR IMAGE, LOOKS DIFFERENT CHARACTERS IN DIFFERENT FILMS (EVEN THERE IS LITTLE SCOPE IN COMMERCIAL ENVIRONMENT).
SEE AAJ KA MLA RAM AVATAAR-- FROM BARBER-MLA-CHIEF MINISTER-BARBER. WHAT A CLASSIC CHARACTERIZATION AND VERSATILITY.
Yes, very rightly said. As a mainstream Superstar of the country, he never forgets about artistic side of film media. So he looks complete character in every film. He is also classic in Akhir Kyon, Aaj Ka MLA, Anokha Rishta, Ghar ka Chirag, Khudai, etc. during his bad phase as a Star, but he is always the King as an ACTOR.
Rizwan Khan

Valley, UK

#51 Dec 21, 2006
This talk is just rubbish!!!

For me the first true superstar was Dilip Kumar. Just because there were no magazines to coin this phrase "superstar" doesnt mean he was not a SUPERSTAR.

Dilip Kumar was a much bigger STAR than RAjesh khanna. Rajesh Khanna came and before you blinked he dissapered!!

After Dilip Kumar came Amitabh BAchchan in the 70s. He took stardom to another level.
Abhijit K Roy- Varanasi

Varanasi, India

#52 Dec 21, 2006
Rizwan Khan wrote:
This talk is just rubbish!!!
For me the first true superstar was Dilip Kumar. Just because there were no magazines to coin this phrase "superstar" doesnt mean he was not a SUPERSTAR.
Dilip Kumar was a much bigger STAR than RAjesh khanna. Rajesh Khanna came and before you blinked he dissapered!!
After Dilip Kumar came Amitabh BAchchan in the 70s. He took stardom to another level.
Without knowing history properly do not comment in foolish way. With Dilip KUmar, there were Raj Kapoor and DEv Anand with equal grace and popularity and three of them were equally shared the stardom.
Amitabh onwards no body can pull on solely. 90% of Amitabh's films were multistarrer, where Dharmendra, Vinod Khanna, Sanjiv KUmar, etc. were equally shared the plot. BUT IT WAS RAJESH KHANNA WHO PERFORMED ALMOST ALONE IN EVERY FILM AND ALWAYS IN CENTRAL CHARACTER EVEN IN CHARACTER ROLES. SO THAT HE IS ONE AND ONLY SUPERSTAR OF INDIA. IMPROVE YOUR GENRAL KNOWLEDGE AND TALK WITH LOGIC. STOP CHAMCHAGIRI OF THIRD GRADE PERSONS LIKE AMITABH.
Bal

Amersfoort, Netherlands

#54 Dec 27, 2006
I understand the appeal of Dharmendra, he was first of all the most handsome of the Indian actors. The combination of his masculinity and intense looks made him very desirable indeed. But still when it comes to charms and a aloof sensuality, no one beats Rajesh Khanna. It is as if they are two different perspectives of a desirable man, you would like to have both but if you had to choose then RK would be it, but you would repent deeply that you had to make a choice.

(ps: when I talk of Dharmendra, I do not include his later action-hero career)
Abhijit K Roy

Varanasi, India

#55 Dec 27, 2006
Bal wrote:
I understand the appeal of Dharmendra, he was first of all the most handsome of the Indian actors. The combination of his masculinity and intense looks made him very desirable indeed. But still when it comes to charms and a aloof sensuality, no one beats Rajesh Khanna. It is as if they are two different perspectives of a desirable man, you would like to have both but if you had to choose then RK would be it, but you would repent deeply that you had to make a choice.
(ps: when I talk of Dharmendra, I do not include his later action-hero career)
Most excellent review indeed, Sir. Thanks a lot for your participation in this Forum.
sanjay

Coimbatore, India

#56 Dec 28, 2006
Dharmendra did mostly action packed roles. He showed glimpses of his talent in films like satyakam, chupke chupke etc., but these were far & few in between. In films like dharam aur kaanoon & rajput where he costarred with rajesh, he looked very ordinary in comparsion to RK.

No doubt dharam was under appreciated but that does not mean he can be compared to rajesh.

Also, Rajesh is the only actor to have costarred in least no. of multi starrers, unlike amit & dharam.
Abhijit K Roy-India

India

#57 Dec 28, 2006
sanjay wrote:
Dharmendra did mostly action packed roles. He showed glimpses of his talent in films like satyakam, chupke chupke etc., but these were far & few in between. In films like dharam aur kaanoon & rajput where he costarred with rajesh, he looked very ordinary in comparsion to RK.
No doubt dharam was under appreciated but that does not mean he can be compared to rajesh.
Also, Rajesh is the only actor to have costarred in least no. of multi starrers, unlike amit & dharam.
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT MY DEAR SANJAY.
Matarr Sarr

Stockholm, Sweden

#58 Jan 22, 2007
Mr Anad22, i realy like your comments on Dharmendra. I am also a great fan of Garam Dharam. Although i am a non-indian and not very much updated with bollywood, i still think that Dharmendra is the most versatile actor bollywood has ever witnessed. He is simply the best of the bests. The media and more so the biased IIFA have not been fair toward the first He-Man hero of the Indian Celluloid, Dharmendra.
smith

Satellite Provider

#59 Feb 4, 2007
As you can now see, one of the most bais media when it comes to films is the bollywood media.If dharmendra was in hollywood, he would have bring respect to that industry.As the argurement goes where is rajesh khanna today.this is just a pointer that the press in bollywood is bais.
Islam

India

#60 Feb 5, 2007
smith wrote:
As you can now see, one of the most bais media when it comes to films is the bollywood media.If dharmendra was in hollywood, he would have bring respect to that industry.As the argurement goes where is rajesh khanna today.this is just a pointer that the press in bollywood is bais.
The media related to film industry is not only biased but it has turned to most saleable nature. On money you can highlight anybody irrespective of merit or demerit. Just to acquire this way, the Bachhan family is gaining unnecessary and overreated ridiculous publicity in cheapest manner.
Islam

India

#61 Feb 5, 2007
smith wrote:
As you can now see, one of the most bais media when it comes to films is the bollywood media.If dharmendra was in hollywood, he would have bring respect to that industry.As the argurement goes where is rajesh khanna today.this is just a pointer that the press in bollywood is bais.
Yes, Dharmendra was the First real Action Hero of Indian film industry, but he is totally ignored by Media, whereas the Amitabh (lanky panky physique) is known as Angry hero and so on, whose action films are of no standard in comparision to Dharmendra. But due to high rated media propaganda he has given Doctorate and other irrelevant awards by tricks and manipulation. Shame to the media and the distributors of such type of awards.
Roopak

Des Moines, IA

#62 Jun 8, 2008
I don't know you all really know about Dharmendra....I seen all the movies of his and Rajesh movies....I can easily say he is far far better actor.....and far far far better human being....I had seen atleast 160-170 movies of Dharmendra from Boyfriend - Apne.....Moreover believe me it's so difficult to do comic roles when you are as good looking as Dharam......I think his reserve and not to say no to anyone gave him really really bad movies in 1985-2000......I can talk about him for days but There is no comparision between Rajesh n Dharam....
radzi

Penang, Malaysia

#63 Jun 8, 2008
Roopak wrote:
I don't know you all really know about Dharmendra....I seen all the movies of his and Rajesh movies....I can easily say he is far far better actor.....and far far far better human being....I had seen atleast 160-170 movies of Dharmendra from Boyfriend - Apne.....Moreover believe me it's so difficult to do comic roles when you are as good looking as Dharam......I think his reserve and not to say no to anyone gave him really really bad movies in 1985-2000......I can talk about him for days but There is no comparision between Rajesh n Dharam....
Roopak,

I like Dharam. A handsome hunk...He was more suited than Rajesh Khanna to journey the era of angry action pioneered by Amitabh...Unfortunately...he was always over shadowed by Amitabh publicity stunts the rest of his career.

....and no best actor award?????

Rajesh just shelves everyone else aside only for a short period from 1969 to 1973....After Sholay, Dharam was competing with Amitabh and the group....not Rajesh Khanna.

He was fishing the same "pool" of fans of action thriller craze as Amitabh's.

...but as a thespian in a true sense...he is no Rajesh Khanna.

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