Neutrality and no part of the World

Neutrality and no part of the World

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jhnsn d-s

Spokane, WA

#1 Apr 20, 2011
Neutrality and no part of the World

The Head of the Watchtower disicples has consistantly refered to the opposing sides in the conflicts of men as terrorist and not as freedom fighters openly showing which side of the conflict they are on.



Shortly after the events of September 2001 (9/11) the Watchtower published via-internet information on terrorism that was followed by an emergency reprinting of the same and distributed to the general public through there local businesses known as kingdom halls here in the USA.



In October of 2001, On the spot representative of the Watchtower's Governing Body “Ciro Aulicinon" gave a public speech identifying the Islamic Empirer as the aggressive terrorist ones of Babylon the Great.(Empior of false religion)
*** Public Address by Watchtower Bethel representative Ciro Aulicino ***
*** October 2001, South Carolina, USA ***

“What Does the Future Hold for Us?”

[first few words missing from recording]... horrific tragedy struck the United States. An attack from a religious enemy…These terrorists can do a lot of damage…Look at the map and see how big the Islamic empire is… It is the most aggressive…Now when the nations begin devastating Babylon the Great…including the aggressive terroristic ones…” http://www.randytv.com/whatfuturetxt.htm




In 2004, The Watchtower held a convention where the focus included the effects of terrorism on religion.

“…In the face of what Jehovah’s Witnesses members call negative publicity surrounding religion because of terrorists…This year’s convention will focus on world events and how sometimes religion is viewed negatively because of terrorism, said Lawrence O’Dett, the news overseer for the Pontiac Michigan District Convention…With the threat of terrorism…"For instance, a car bombing happens…”
http://www.theoaklandpress.com/articles/2004/...



In 2005, The Watchtower through it’s duly authorized representative, J.R.Brown, director of public information for the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society asserted,‘We’re truly neutral’ with respects to conflicts of men and even the parents of the solider in this article asserts,‘Thomas and Mia Woodliff…As you know, we are Jehovah’s Witnesses and are neutral as to the political and military affairs of the world” We base our beliefs on Scriptures such as John 17:14, 16, Matthew 5:43, 44 and Matthew 26:52 among others. This means we are neither for nor against the political involvements of the 200-plus nations that we can be found in....We simply choose not to participate.

http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/i...




In June 2006 the Awake magazine published an article on terrorism which again suggests the Watchtower leaderships deeply intrenched thinking, "....as terrorist threats proliferate and nations shudder..."

In 2009 Watchtower disiciple cite motive and effect(causing fear) as justification for the usage of the T-words.

In 2011 [citation needed]

CONCLUSION: Although the leadership represent themselves as refined by their god in the neutrality doctrine the facts show the disicples who carried the Watchtower terrorism magazines to the public and those who attended the convention assemblies have failed their own core teachings on neutrality in favor of following their leadership.
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jhnsn d-s

Spokane, WA

#2 Apr 21, 2011
THe Watchtower doctrine of neutrality not only requires of them outwardly to be neutral but not even secertly sympathizing with one side or the other.

TERRORISM

QUOTE:“The concept of terrorism may itself be controversial…as it is often used by state authorities to delegitimize…political or other…opponents, and potentially legitimize the state's own use of armed force against opponents “(such use of force may itself be described as "terror" by opponents of the state)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism



QUOTE:“The terms "terrorism" and "terrorist" (someone who engages in terrorism) carry strong negative connotations…Those labeled "terrorists" by their opponents rarely identify themselves as such,…It is common for both parties to a conflict to describe each other as terrorists.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism#Pejora ...



DEFINITION OF TERRORISM

The word "terrorism" is politically and emotionally charged, and this greatly compounds the difficulty of providing a precise definition

QUOTE:“A 2003 study by Jeffrey Record for the US Army quoted a source (Schmid and Jongman 1988) that counted 109 definitions of terrorism that covered a total of 22 different definitional elements.[2] Record continues "Terrorism expert Walter Laqueur also has counted over 100 definitions…”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_te ...



The application "terrorist" is therefore always deliberately disputed. Attempts at defining the concept invariably arouse debate because rival definitions may be employed with a view to including the actions of certain parties, and excluding others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_te ...




CRITICISMS OF THE TERM

In his book "Inside Terrorism" Bruce Hoffman wrote in Chapter One: Defining Terrorism that

It is a word with intrinsically negative connotations that is generally applied to one's enemies and opponents, or to those with whom one disagrees and would otherwise prefer to ignore. "What is called terrorism," Brian Jenkins has written, "thus seems to depend on one's point of view. Use of the term implies a moral judgment; and if one party can successfully attach the label terrorist to its opponent, then it has indirectly persuaded others to adopt its moral viewpoint." Hence the decision to call someone or label some organization "terrorist" becomes almost unavoidably subjective, depending largely on whether one sympathizes with or opposes the person/group/cause concerned.—Bruce Hoffman.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_te ...




Other definitions to Terrorism

There is no single, universally accepted definition of terrorism..Terrorism by nature is difficult to define…Even the U.S. government cannot agree on one single definition. The old adage,“One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter” is still alive and well…

http://www.terrorism.com/modules.php...



Do you feel that terrorists are “Freedom fighters” or criminals?

“…As far as being freedom fighters—that’s a moral judgement beyond the purview of objective academic research.”


Nov. 11, 2005 – Hany Abu-Assad is nervious…The director is Palestinian, the audience is Israeli, and his film is about the lives and moral struggles of two suicide bombers…It wouldn’t be the first time a film about terrorists, or freedom fighters (depending which side of the wall you’re on), has been shown in Israel…”

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9997012/site/newsweek...
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jhnsn d-s

Spokane, WA

#3 Mar 20, 2012
In 2011, the O.S.C.E(1) hosted an event where the Watchtower with others including the representative of the Muslims reported human rights abuses in Bulgaria but, russia complains OSCE is a tool to advance "Western" interests ...

The Watchtower presence with the OSCE is a result of its past membership with the United Nations.

The complaining of the Watchtower included the media being used by opposers to print defamatory and slanderous information about them...

How can the Watchtower people complain about such when they themselves engage in the same tactics when making Per Se allegations against Muslims just because they are muslims. Evidently, they believe they are entitled to such freedoms but others are not.

Secondly, when it comes to being seperate from the world is hard to reconcile their political activitys with the scriptures.

The instructions Gods son gave didn't include establishing preemtive rights to freedom or pressuring governments, but were to use these instance as an occassion to "witness"

Be on YOUR guard against men; for they will deliver YOU up to local courts, and they will scourge YOU in their synagogues. Why, YOU will be haled before governors and kings for my sake, for a witness to them and the nations...."When they persecute YOU in one city, flee to another; for truly I say to YOU, YOU will by no means complete the circuit of the cities of Israel until the Son of man arrives."

(1) OSCE stands for Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe.[The OSCE is an...organization under the United Nations Charter (Chap. VIII)]

(2) QUOTE: "In October of 2001, On the spot representative of the Watchtower's Governing Body “Ciro Aulicinon" gave a public speech identifying the Islamic Empirer as the aggressive terrorist ones of Babylon the Great.(Empior of false religion)
*** Public Address by Watchtower Bethel representative Ciro Aulicino ***
*** October 2001, South Carolina, USA ***

“What Does the Future Hold for Us?”

[first few words missing from recording]... horrific tragedy struck the United States. An attack from a religious enemy…These terrorists can do a lot of damage…Look at the map and see how big the Islamic empire is… It is the most aggressive…Now when the nations begin devastating Babylon the Great…including the aggressive terroristic ones…”END OF QUOTE http://www.randytv.com/whatfuturetxt.htm

28 C.F.R. Section 0.85 US Criminal Code

(3) 2011 OSCE Information http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/sc...

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jhnsn d-s

Spokane, WA

#4 Nov 2, 2012
jhnsn d-s wrote:
Neutrality and no part of the World

The Head of the Watchtower disicples has consistantly refered to the opposing sides in the conflicts of men as terrorist and not as freedom fighters openly showing which side of the conflict they are on.
Shortly after the events of September 2001 (9/11) the Watchtower published via-internet information on terrorism that was followed by an emergency reprinting of the same and distributed to the general public through there local businesses known as kingdom halls here in the USA

In October of 2001, On the spot representative of the Watchtower's Governing Body “Ciro Aulicinon" gave a public speech identifying the Islamic Empirer as the aggressive terrorist ones of Babylon the Great.(Empior of false religion)
*** Public Address by Watchtower Bethel representative Ciro Aulicino ***
*** October 2001, South Carolina, USA ***
“What Does the Future Hold for Us?”
[first few words missing from recording]... horrific tragedy struck the United States. An attack from a religious enemy…These terrorists can do a lot of damage…Look at the map and see how big the Islamic empire is… It is the most aggressive…Now when the nations begin devastating Babylon the Great…including the aggressive terroristic ones…” http://www.randytv.com/whatfuturetxt.htm

In 2004, The Watchtower held a convention where the focus included the effects of terrorism on religion.
“…In the face of what Jehovah’s Witnesses members call negative publicity surrounding religion because of terrorists…This year’s convention will focus on world events and how sometimes religion is viewed negatively because of terrorism, said Lawrence O’Dett, the news overseer for the Pontiac Michigan District Convention…With the threat of terrorism…"For instance, a car bombing happens…”
http://www.theoaklandpress.com/articles/2004/...
In 2005, The Watchtower through it’s duly authorized representative, J.R.Brown, director of public information for the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society asserted,‘We’re truly neutral’ with respects to conflicts of men and even the parents of the solider in this article asserts,‘Thomas and Mia Woodliff…As you know, we are Jehovah’s Witnesses and are neutral as to the political and military affairs of the world” We base our beliefs on Scriptures such as John 17:14, 16, Matthew 5:43, 44 and Matthew 26:52 among others. This means we are neither for nor against the political involvements of the 200-plus nations that we can be found in....We simply choose not to participate.
http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/i...
In June 2006 the Awake magazine published an article on terrorism which again suggests the Watchtower leaderships deeply intrenched thinking, "....as terrorist threats proliferate and nations shudder..."
In 2009 Watchtower disiciple cite motive and effect(causing fear) as justification for the usage of the T-words.
In 2011 [citation needed]
CONCLUSION: Although the leadership represent themselves as refined by their god in the neutrality doctrine the facts show the disicples who carried the Watchtower terrorism magazines to the public and those who attended the convention assemblies have failed their own core teachings on neutrality in favor of following their leadership.
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The talk that was given teaching the people of Islam were enemy-terrorists per bible prophecy can be located at http://dciscorp.com/qwotes/WhatDoestheFutureH... either in printed or audible form. It appears that Randy TV has removed the speech.
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