As Christmas dawns

As Christmas dawns

There are 5 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Dec 25, 2008, titled As Christmas dawns. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

What is this day, this Christmas , that dawns with a chorus of joy? What river of love and magic speeds the message from that moment of wonder in Bethlehem across the cold darkness of centuries long forgotten? ...

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Paqid Yirmeyahu


#1 Dec 25, 2008
Why does your paper promulgate disinformation to appease indisputable contra-historical tradition?

Every major encyclopedia acknowledges that there was no Christmas before 336 C.E. when Hellenist Roman gentile Christians adopted the idolatrous Hellenist Roman gentile festival for the sun-god, tracing back to the Iranian (Persian) "birthday of the unconquered sun" -- sun worship!

Christmas has no legitimate connection whatsoever to "the Babe" from Beit Lekhem. The description in the "Gospels," that there were shepherds in the fields, makes Dec. 25th impossible. Historical records document that shepherds brought their flocks into the folds in early autumn and remained their until sometime in spring.

The magi--Iranians (Persians)--were astrologers; astronomers of their day. They would have found the conjunction of the "Jews' planet" (Saturn => Saturn-day => Saturday) with the "regal planet" (Greek Zeus = Roman Jupiter) significant. "Had the astrologers, being from Iran or Iraq,“followed a star in the east” they would have wound up in Shanghai, China" staring out at Japan, NOT Jerusalem.(cited from chapter 2 notes, The Netzarim Reconstruction of Hebrew Matityahu). Computer calculations of the three conjunctions demonstrate that (contrary to a number of superficial theories, NONE of which indicate Dec. 25) the birth occurred May 29 of B.C.E. 7 (while Herod was still alive); nowhere near Dec. 25.

Your assertion that Jews celebrate Christmas is journalistic unprofessionalism based in Christian arrogance. Your assertion that Jews SHOULD celebrate Christmas--supporting the widespread imposition of Christmas on everyone--is flagrantly offensive, unacceptable and unconstitutional.

Paqid Yirmeyahu
Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel
Israeli Orthodox Jew (Teimani Baladi Dardai)
Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority
Welcoming Jews & non-Jews

Midlothian, IL

#2 Dec 25, 2008
Thank you for a very thought-provoking, warm editorial. Save it. It should be repeated every year. And to Paqid (the Grinch), a hearty "Merry Christmas."
George from outer space

Winnipeg, Canada

#4 Dec 25, 2008
now join in the celebration on the birthday of the Babe with the fervent hope that the

Nice political statement.

The absolute premeditated fraud in not acknowledging the Birth of Christ.

These from the people who wish you a Very Merry Xmas.
A Fan

Green Bay, WI

#5 Dec 25, 2008
My first time reading this editorial and it is beautiful.

Merry Christmas.
mayors neighbor

Chicago, IL

#6 Dec 26, 2008
Help spread the cheer by signing up for a class action lawsuit against the city of Chicago for failure to provide safe roadways. Apparently the mayor can sell Midway, the parking meters, the Skyway, the parking garages downtown, and still not have enough money to salt the roads in the name of public safety. If you are one of the tens of thousands involved in any kind of accident due to this blatant negligence please respond to Maybe he is saving up all the proceeds fo another 500 million dollar park we do not know about yet.

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