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Pope Benedict XVI told priests yesterday to do a better job counseling would-be spouses to ensure that their marriages last, and he said no one has an absolute right to a wedding.
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“I hate watermelon!”

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Jan 23, 2011
 
what a hate fest wrote:
Wow. Lookie what we have here. A collection of earth worshippers, religion bashers and priest haters who are laying around on a Sunday morning in farted-up underwear and picking the sleep out of your eyes. Keep it up! The evil one takes great delight in your enmity! At least your are keeping "it" happy!
Whatsa matter? You overdose on Viagra and can't come down? I told you to be careful with those pills!

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Blinded-By-The-Right wrote:
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I could not "Judge" your post or the other one because I feel that both of you are right, and I did have my First marriage annulled by the Catholic Church!
So I am equally respectful to both posts. I believe it is called Win-Win.
LOL - thanks :) We need more people like you around here. Pull up a chair, make yourself comfortable, and get me a diet Coke!

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Jan 23, 2011
 
If you are not Catholic this doesn't affect you in any way. If you are and you don't like it then you have to decide if you agree with the Dogma and Doctrine of your Church.

I'm not Catholic thus what the Pope says is of little if any affect to my life. I think sometimes people just want to fight and use anything to meet that desire.

For those Catholics who wish an annulment and don't believe they can afford it. Every Diocese must make the Diocesan court available to any Catholic in the Diocese. It's Canon Law. If you cannot afford the fees make this known and they will have a process available to pursue an annulment sans fees.

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If you are not Catholic this doesn't affect you in any way. If you are and you don't like it then you have to decide if you agree with the Dogma and Doctrine of your Church.
I'm not Catholic thus what the Pope says is of little if any affect to my life. I think sometimes people just want to fight and use anything to meet that desire.
For those Catholics who wish an annulment and don't believe they can afford it. Every Diocese must make the Diocesan court available to any Catholic in the Diocese. It's Canon Law. If you cannot afford the fees make this known and they will have a process available to pursue an annulment sans fees.
I fully agree with you, but the pope and most catholics expect the rest of the world to abide by THEIR manmade rules.
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Jan 23, 2011
 
Pope Benedict is talking about a marriage in the Catholic Church - not a marriage under civil law.

That being said, when I was married in the Catholic Church, I asked if I could be married by the church without a civil marriage. I feel the secular world's definition of marriage is so warped that I did not want their approval of mine.

Unfortunately, to be married in the Catholic Church you also have to get married civily. In the United States, Priests can do both at the same time. In many countries, especially ones with a secular government that dislikes Catholicism, you have to be married civily, then your wedding party goes to the Church for the real marriage that actually matters.
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I fully agree with you, but the pope and most catholics expect the rest of the world to abide by THEIR manmade rules.
Not a Catholic but I do eat fish on Fridays :)

I don't think the pope is off on more counseling is needed before marriage. It seems to me many people get married who wouldn't if they planned for marriage more and the wedding less. Having said that I wake up everyday looking forward to death, hers or mine, either one will release me from hell on earth or as some call it marriage

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Not a Catholic but I do eat fish on Fridays :)
I don't think the pope is off on more counseling is needed before marriage. It seems to me many people get married who wouldn't if they planned for marriage more and the wedding less. Having said that I wake up everyday looking forward to death, hers or mine, either one will release me from hell on earth or as some call it marriage
Hi, I agree - more counseling before marriage.

Oh no - I'm sorry you're so unhappy! I was very unhappy in my first marriage and believe me, THAT was living in sin!

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Sheryl 1 wrote:
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I fully agree with you, but the pope and most catholics expect the rest of the world to abide by THEIR manmade rules.
I don't know if the Pope does I don't know much about Benedict but I have known many Catholics over the years who do.
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But buggering little boys is every priest's God-given right. Amen and aman.

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Nanny State Losers wrote:
Pope Benedict is talking about a marriage in the Catholic Church - not a marriage under civil law.
That being said, when I was married in the Catholic Church, I asked if I could be married by the church without a civil marriage. I feel the secular world's definition of marriage is so warped that I did not want their approval of mine.
Unfortunately, to be married in the Catholic Church you also have to get married civily. In the United States, Priests can do both at the same time. In many countries, especially ones with a secular government that dislikes Catholicism, you have to be married civily, then your wedding party goes to the Church for the real marriage that actually matters.
Nanny, you're right. When I was a practicing catholic, I had to do both - civil divorce annulment - to end the marriage. I'm no longer catholic, and really never put much stock in annulments. "The marriage was never valid." They could find a loophole in ANY marriage.
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What if my priest says I can't get married??? What should I do?

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ITS NOT FAIR wrote:
What if my priest says I can't get married??? What should I do?
Carefully consider his reason why. I'm not Catholic but there are a number of couples I have counseled against marrying and would not perform a marriage for. Granted they are a small minority but there are good reasons for people not to marry.
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Why do you think the Catholic Church is welcoming and protecting the hispanic illegal immigrants? It has driven millions of followers out of the Church because of the priest pedophile scandals. These illegals are Catholic and are having lots of babies who will grow up as obedient Catholics. Meanwhile the quality of life is speedily eroding as these illegals gobble up our resources.
The Catholic Church was protecting Mexican migrant farmer workers throughout the 40's, 50's and 60's. They were not welcomed by the mainstream then either and yet anyone who ate fruit, vegetables or slaughtered meat was keeping those coming to this country looking for work employed. Now that the name has been changed to "illegal immigrants" it's a considered a new problem by the uninformed and a new cause for the Catholic Church. The mainstream still don't welcome these people and yet if you eat fruit, vegetables, or slaughtered meat you are keeping these people employed in conditions that most Americans can't even imagine let alone want to work in.
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ITS NOT FAIR wrote:
What if my priest says I can't get married??? What should I do?
You may want to ask why he doesn't consider you and your intended good candidates for this sacrament. You may not see some realities that he does that would cause your marriage relationship to fail. His decision not to marry you in the Catholic Church would be painful and yet could well be a good thing in the long run.
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I fully agree with you, but the pope and most catholics expect the rest of the world to abide by THEIR manmade rules.
The pope and most Catholics fully realize that the world is not going to abide by every rule of the Catholic Church. Though when the rules deal with taking care of the poor or not entering into unjust wars what would following these rules hurt?

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