Religious Leaders Debate: Can Evoluti...

Religious Leaders Debate: Can Evolution and God Coexist?

There are 13 comments on the www.findingdulcinea.com story from Mar 4, 2009, titled Religious Leaders Debate: Can Evolution and God Coexist?. In it, www.findingdulcinea.com reports that:

The Vatican is currently sponsoring a five-day conference on evolution, marking the 150th anniversary of Darwin's "Origin of Species." Philosophers, scientists and theologians have gathered at the Pontifical ...

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Just the Facts

Chapin, SC

#1 Mar 4, 2009
God made fools like Darwin. Fools like Darwin did not invent this world.
deanoff

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#2 Mar 4, 2009
Just the Facts wrote:
God made fools like Darwin. Fools like Darwin did not invent this world.
Who made a fool like you?
akhter

Liverpool, UK

#3 Mar 5, 2009
Isaiah

Sterling, VA

#4 Mar 5, 2009
First, the THEORY of evolution must be proven to be fact. Science is now backing away from evolution and considering the possibility of a Creator due to scientific evidence.
You know, I was dissapointed recently. An aquaintance (evolutionist) insisted that I read some recent articles on evolution in Discover and Scientific American. Needless to say, no evidence was given, no empirical data, nothing except a "see...DNA...evolution is proven!" That's like me saying "look...the Bible...I just proved creation." That's circular logic and that's all I found in these publications. Even an interview with Carroll, in which he was about to refute the Cambrian explosion, turned into a few sentences on nothing.
Darwinism is nothing but conjecture, wishfull thinking, and, above all, absolute, rock-solid, FAITH.
Read "The Case for a Creator." You want data? You want evidence that points away from evolution and to God? Pick that up. No circular logic to be found.
Isaiah

Sterling, VA

#5 Mar 5, 2009
And no, evolution is NOT compatible with God. Microevolution, yes. Macroevolution, NO.
Pat

Granby, CT

#6 Mar 5, 2009
How can theists debate? They have nothing but unsupported foolishness that can't be debated.
Pat

Granby, CT

#7 Mar 5, 2009
Isaiah wrote:
And no, evolution is NOT compatible with God. Microevolution, yes. Macroevolution, NO.
LOL! Macroevolution is nothing more than microevolution over a much longer period of time.
Pat

Granby, CT

#8 Mar 5, 2009
Isaiah wrote:
First, the THEORY of evolution must be proven to be fact. Science is now backing away from evolution and considering the possibility of a Creator due to scientific evidence.
You know, I was dissapointed recently. An aquaintance (evolutionist) insisted that I read some recent articles on evolution in Discover and Scientific American. Needless to say, no evidence was given, no empirical data, nothing except a "see...DNA...evolution is proven!" That's like me saying "look...the Bible...I just proved creation." That's circular logic and that's all I found in these publications. Even an interview with Carroll, in which he was about to refute the Cambrian explosion, turned into a few sentences on nothing.
Darwinism is nothing but conjecture, wishfull thinking, and, above all, absolute, rock-solid, FAITH.
Read "The Case for a Creator." You want data? You want evidence that points away from evolution and to God? Pick that up. No circular logic to be found.
Evolution is a proven fact. the theory describes how it occurs not if it occurred. Get an education.

"Science is now backing away from evolution and considering the possibility of a Creator due to scientific evidence."

You are either dishonest or grossly misinformed. In addition you are clearly a hypocrite for you hold your faith based beliefs to no evidence at all. All they have going for them is your personal desire to beleive in them because you want to deny the reality of your mortality.
Satheist

Syracuse, NY

#9 Mar 5, 2009
Theists are all confused. They cannot even agree along themselves if evolution is true of not. I am glad I found science and realized atheism, like many before me.

Evolution is a proven fact. Just like germ theory, atomic theory and the theory of gravity...germs, atoms, and gravity are all real. The theory of evoluton is not evolution, it is an explanation of the fact of evolution.

The Bible clearly states in the beginning, there was Adam and Eve, and man fell because Eve ate the fruit and we all inherented original sin. Jesus died for our sins. But evolution proves Adam and Eve false, what did Jesus die for? A metaphor?

Give me a break. Evolution rules, science proves, religion fools.
Giles

Munich, Germany

#10 Apr 18, 2009
I love the vigour with which theists have to prove themselves with a book which in itself is nowhere near proven, and a culture which denies anything not already covered in a book completed over 2000 years ago. Hmmmm... anyone else see the blinkers on this donkey?!?

Personally I'd rather be able to question what I'm told and if I'm able to prove it wrong add to the pot with my theory.

I give it to you, theists, to prove there is a God without a desperate reference to the (at best flawed) book you rely on for everything?!?

Scientists mock you, that's you now in the level below nerds which no one knew about until now!

Bring it on Christ Crew!
Anne

Parkville, Australia

#12 Jul 29, 2009
Christ doesn't need you. He only wants you.

Brethrens don't argue it's pointless.
All scientistsÂ’ minds are a mess, they greed for power and knowledge rather than wisdom.
Stop running left and right and arguing with everyone you meet, because you will never achieve absolute enlightenment.

On your death bed you will call a priest or some form of comfort. You won't call a scientist.

Please, live your life looking straight; stop wasting your precious time. You are dying before you actual die :'(

Science is only a profession. People try hard to make it their life basis, because they have been disappointed previously by just having 'faith'. You reject because you thought you were rejected.

Have faith. Have patience. LIVEE your life. Love and share happiness, because the will of God, will not take you were the grace of God can not protect you.

God bless.
Jeff Hill

Manassas, VA

#13 Oct 4, 2010
Imagine a person who was told by his parents, as a child, that the earth was flat. This child grows to adulthood believing this statement. Why should this person not believe? Now imagine that we take this adult on a trip in a rocket to the ISS (International Space Station) and have them look out the window at the beautiful sphere of our earth. "Look", we say "the earth is round. Watch as we revolve around it. Look at the way the land masses repeat themselves with regularity. You were misinformed, the earth is round."

Imagine that this person in question still refused to acknowledge, in spite of overwhelming evidence, that the earth was round. We would all categorize the individual as insane or delusional: a victim of a mental illness. I would be interested in an alternative evaluation of this conclusion.

Further: Imagine that there was a child that had been taught that the earth was less than 10,000 years old. As time goes by, the now grown child is confronted by enormous, corroborated, and undeniable evidence that the earth is about 4.7 billion years old. This individual is not moved and continues to proclaim the falsehood that they were taught. Their "time earth" is flat and less than 10,000 years old. Clearly the individual suffers from the same delusion.

Religion is the only contagious mental illness. It is passed, generally, from parents to offspring, but, the infection can happen through many vectors. The only vaccine to religion is secular education and a free thinking society. Exposing children (who are entirely incapable of thinking for themselves on these matters) to dogmatic indoctrination of any kind is child abuse. Intentionally infecting anyone with a malady is unforgivable, but to do it to a child is monstrous.

Jeff Hill
Jeff Hill

Manassas, VA

#14 Oct 4, 2010
Ahem. May I interrupt? Give me 500 words or so, please, and then judge me. Imagine a person who was told by his parents, as a child, that the earth was flat. This child grows to adulthood believing this statement. Why should this person not believe? Now imagine that we take this adult on a trip in a rocket to the ISS (International Space Station) and have them look out the window at the beautiful sphere of our earth. "Look", we say "the earth is round. Watch as we revolve around it. Look at the way the land masses repeat themselves with regularity. You were misinformed, the earth is round."

Imagine that this person in question still refused to acknowledge, in spite of overwhelming evidence, that the earth was round. We would all categorize the individual as insane or delusional: a victim of a mental illness. I would be interested in an alternative evaluation of this conclusion.

Further: Imagine that there was a child that had been taught that the earth was less than 10,000 years old. As time goes by, the now grown child is confronted by enormous, corroborated, and undeniable evidence that the earth is about 4.7 billion years old. This individual is not moved and continues to proclaim the falsehood that they were taught. Their time earth is flat and less than 10,000 years old. Clearly the individual suffers from the same delusion.

Religion is the only contagious mental illness. It is passed, generally, from parents to offspring, but, the infection can happen through many vectors. The only vaccine to religion is secular education and a free thinking society. Exposing children (who are entirely incapable of thinking for themselves on these matters) to dogmatic indoctrination of any kind is child abuse. Intentionally infecting anyone with a malady is unforgivable, but to do it to a child is monstrous.

Jeff Hill

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