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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 693231 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Liam

Detroit, MI

#559025 Sep 5, 2014
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I have provided evidence, time and again, and you ignore it - because you cannot wrap your brain round the idea that the Catholic church is nothing but evil.
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The "Christianity" that Constantine made "legal" was not TRUE CHRISTIANITY. True Christians would not have waged war in God's Name. Period.
Once again - pay close attention - the region of the world Universall tine waged his "holy" war is an area where tribalism is everything. Tribalism means survival of the tribe in an arid and mostly uninhabitable land. And when those people witnessed WAR in the NAME OF GOD ... they got bit by the virus of that evil, as well.
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I went as far as typing out an entire timeline for you Liam, and you ignored it all.
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NO! Constantine did not live for a thousand years NO! He was not involved in the crusades or the inquisition..... but his evil ideas did live on. And like a virus his evil ideas infected everyone they touched for the (appx) 1,700 years since his death.
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Classic Catholic M.O. is to attack the messenger because the messenger throws down the truth and you can't handle the truth.
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You have called me a liar, and a cheat and a homosexual, and insulted my marital status - in order to win points ... with whom? Other Catholics? Well that just shows how the Church has programmed you into ignoring its CENTURIES LONG HISTORY OF VIOLENCE AND DOWNRIGHT FILTHY EVIL. And you get all butt-hurt when someone simply calls you out on the lies and violence and pure evil of the church.
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Just think. I'm just calling you out on the terror and horror your church has brought into the world.
The church has murdered far too many "heretics."
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Here .... let's do it this way:
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NUMBER OF HERETICS MURDERED BY guest = ZERO.
NUMBER OF HERETICS MURDERED BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH = UNTOLD MILLIONS.
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there ... right there ... THAT is what is causing me to be so "irrational" (as YOU put it) against the Catholic church ...
There.
You've provided nothing to support your ideology. In fact every link contradicts you.
For example: your link yesterday stated "Bloodshed and murder were FORBIDDEN" by the Catholic Church during the Inquisition. Wait, what?? Thats right.....forbidden. Do you pre-read your cut and paste rants? Evidently not.
Look, the Catholic Church is not perfect in the sense, we are all sinners. If you're looking for such a Church than don't join it cuz it will not be perfect anymore. However, no matter what, the teachings of Christ and His Universal Church will always be safeguarded as He promised. He never said we would all be perfect human beings.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#559026 Sep 5, 2014
Anthony MN wrote:
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Nothing sinister at all June, God makes them saints, we just proclaim what God has done.
I didn't state that you or your Catholic PLOTTERS are sinister. That is religious terminology that implies that a devil is tempting others what to believe, while your Catholic self chooses to follow a HOLY god all the way to utopian bliss.

I stated that you are egoistical.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#559027 Sep 5, 2014
Liam wrote:
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2. If I'm not mistaken, you guys didnt refer to yourselves as the Orthodox at that time anyway. Weren't we all just "Christians", Baptized members of the only Universal Christian Church?
The first Christians were ex-Jews, known to their arrogant selves as Gnostic (knowledge-able) Christians ... and the Catholics were simply one of those split Christian groups.

When Constantine gave the Catholics the power over all the other right-fighting groups of Gnostic Christians and over the Jews and those in all other religions and non-believers ... that is when the Catholic church became a power-house of brutality and had the military support of the Government to wipe out all the other factions as being heretics and witches and Atheists.
Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#559028 Sep 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I didn't state that you or your Catholic PLOTTERS are sinister. That is religious terminology that implies that a devil is tempting others what to believe, while your Catholic self chooses to follow a HOLY god all the way to utopian bliss.
I stated that you are egoistical.
Well, you called me a viper. What's wrong with believing God makes saints? What's wrong with believing all the saints God makes aren't necessarily revealed to us? Why are you such an angry woman?
Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#559029 Sep 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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So God "creates" Catholic saints HUH???
That's a brand new egoistical tale on your part.
Um, yeah, God created everything. How is that egotistical?
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#559030 Sep 5, 2014
Religion ... no matter which religion ... has no history of which to be proud.

Jerusalem for instance, has been a battle ROYAL over who will OWN the supposed HOLY ground that is drenched with the blood of victims.

Horrible history.
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Question: "How many times has Jerusalem been destroyed?"

Answer: Jerusalem, the “city of peace,” has certainly known its share of sorrow and war. Since it sits at the crossroads of the ancient world and is held in high esteem by three major religions, it has been involved in wars throughout most of its 3000+ year history. When archaeologists first began excavating in the city, they were surprised to discover layer after layer of rubble, indicating that parts of Jerusalem had been destroyed at least 40 times. The layers of rubble in some places are more than 60 feet deep!

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Jerusalem-destroy ...
Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#559031 Sep 5, 2014
Liam wrote:
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You've provided nothing to support your ideology. In fact every link contradicts you.
For example: your link yesterday stated "Bloodshed and murder were FORBIDDEN" by the Catholic Church during the Inquisition. Wait, what?? Thats right.....forbidden. Do you pre-read your cut and paste rants? Evidently not.
Look, the Catholic Church is not perfect in the sense, we are all sinners. If you're looking for such a Church than don't join it cuz it will not be perfect anymore. However, no matter what, the teachings of Christ and His Universal Church will always be safeguarded as He promised. He never said we would all be perfect human beings.
Still have never seen any reputable historian say millions of Christians and heretics were "tortured and murdered".
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#559032 Sep 5, 2014
confrinting with the word wrote:
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To me what he is attempting is an occupational hazard.....I will not give him control over me,
that he would make me be angry .
If he made me angry,,,, he would be in control...and I would be out of control
He has never been, seen, heard or experienced what I have been privileged to be involved in
In the divine manifestations of God's power. in my life time.
I rather pity him....
I don't expect a person that is bereft of a personal knowledge (THAT COMES BY A BORN AGAIN RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD,) to act as if he understands SPIRITUAL THINGS....
He is spiritually dead ...as is most Roman Catholics.
Being carnally minded.... He minds the things of the flesh
The Bible says..
Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of

sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Rom 8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
........I pity him too! and Liam and Hojo.

......sad very sad.
Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#559033 Sep 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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The first Christians were ex-Jews, known to their arrogant selves as Gnostic (knowledge-able) Christians ... and the Catholics were simply one of those split Christian groups.
When Constantine gave the Catholics the power over all the other right-fighting groups of Gnostic Christians and over the Jews and those in all other religions and non-believers ... that is when the Catholic church became a power-house of brutality and had the military support of the Government to wipe out all the other factions as being heretics and witches and Atheists.
Cite your source June.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#559034 Sep 5, 2014
Anthony MN wrote:
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Well, you called me a viper. What's wrong with believing God makes saints? What's wrong with believing all the saints God makes aren't necessarily revealed to us? Why are you such an angry woman?
If you had been born a Muslim ... you would now be preaching at the Catholics that they will burn in Islam's hell in a hereafter.

I can't help you to broaden your view, when you choose to stay where you are.

Only you can help your self.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#559035 Sep 5, 2014
Anthony MN wrote:
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Um, yeah, God created everything. How is that egotistical?
Did God create the Jews to believe that they are God's ONLY chosen few?

Did God create the Muslims to believe that they are God's ONLY chosen few?

Only by being willing to go beyond where you are now STUCK can you create a NEW picture in your own mind.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#559036 Sep 5, 2014
Anthony MN wrote:
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Cite your source June.
My source is merely what I believe from having studied religions from the outside IN.

My sources of such information are too many to mention here as being one source.

I've studied the nature of many religions for many years, and from my perspective they were and are ... all BAD news of ... "My religion is HOLY, and yours is false and therefore EVIL."
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#559037 Sep 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
The emperor Constantine was sainted in the Greek Orthodox church and according to the teaching of those men is now a saint in heaven.

Yet the religion teaches that ONLY GOD can be the judge of who will be chosen and who will be rejected.
......poor Joan of ark declared as a heretic and burned to death. Centuries later God changed his mind and inspired the Pope to change his mind and make her a saint.

......its all so phoney.......and.....

Unbelievable!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#559038 Sep 5, 2014
The fundamentalist Muslims KNOW how easy it is to play the "freedom of religion clause" for all it's worth to them. They MOCK it and use it to gain yet more power over others.
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From the book “AMERICA ALONE … THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT”… BY MARK STEYN … published in 2006

After the carnage in Spain, Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed told Lisbon’s Publica magazine that a group of London Islamists were “ready to launch a big operation” on British soil.“We don’t make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents,” he said, clarifying the ground rules.“Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. The cleric added he expected to see the banner of Islam flying in Downing Street.“I believe one day that is going to happen. Because this is my country, I like living here,” he said.“If they believe in democracy, who are they afraid of? Let Omar Bakri benefit from democracy!”
Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#559039 Sep 5, 2014
Michael wrote:
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........I pity him too! and Liam and Hojo.
......sad very sad.
As June so astutely observed and we having said for a long time, you have a personal vendetta against the Catholic Church and are incapable of holding an unbiased opinion. I think you feel rather the opposite of your statement here, I think you pity the ignorance and instability of so many of the fundamentalists here, it pisses you off that they are incapable of defending their relentless attacks on us which you so much support. You want them to be right, you need them to be right, if for no other reason than to validate your decision to reject Catholic Christianity. I think the time has come for you to be a man and admit it, don't you?

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#559040 Sep 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
I also knew of suffering as a child ... but I wouldn't buy into the male created religious concept that others that also suffered deserved hell, while I deserved heaven.
RIDICULOUS CLAPTRAP!
just cuz you had sum bad experiences as a child doesn't mean that you need to be a mean-spirited, man-hating butch forever.....:-(
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#559041 Sep 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Did God create the Jews to believe that they are God's ONLY chosen few?
Did God create the Muslims to believe that they are God's ONLY chosen few?
Only by being willing to go beyond where you are now STUCK can you create a NEW picture in your own mind.
......when out days are done, what happens to Jews, what happens to Muslims what happens to catholics happens to all of us..........whatever that is. Being born by chance into a particular belief is no guarantee for anything.

......as you know today! faithfulness to organized religions in the western world is on the slide and that is why posters such as Anthony, Liam, Hojo, cowboy, are always so defensive. They are totally frustrated why smart people don't see the religious world the way they do.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#559042 Sep 5, 2014
The Muslims believe that they must kill infidels in order to please GOD.

The freedom of religion clause works to that favor.

In order to understand the magnitude of the issue, I suggest you read the following.
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From the book “AMERICA ALONE … THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT”… BY MARK STEYN … published in 2006

In 2005, the British authorities finally moved against the most famous of the country’s many incendiary imams. Abu Hamza is a household name in the United Kingdom thanks to the tabloids anointing him as “Hooky”—he lost his hands in an, er,“accident” in Afghanistan in 1991. On trial in London for nine counts of soliciting murder plus various other charges, he retained the services of a prestigious Queen’s Counsel, who certainly came up with an ingenious legal strategy:“Edward Fitzgerald, QC, for the defence, said that Abu Hamza’s interpretation of the Koran was that it imposed an obligation on Muslims to do jihad and fight in the defence of their religion. He said that the Crown case against the former imam of Finsbury Park Mosque was ‘simplistic in the extreme.’ He added:‘It is said he was preaching murder, but he was actually preaching from the Koran itself.’”

If the Koran permit, you must acquit? Brilliant. To convict would be multiculturally disrespectful” if the holy book of the religion of peace recommends killing infidels, who are we to judge?
Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#559043 Sep 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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If you had been born a Muslim ... you would now be preaching at the Catholics that they will burn in Islam's hell in a hereafter.
I can't help you to broaden your view, when you choose to stay where you are.
Only you can help your self.
Thanks for your concern.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#559044 Sep 5, 2014
Anthony MN wrote:
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Or it's because playtime with you in the sandbox is juvenile and we've grown up.
You are getting better at dodging the light of truth....thanks for proving my words...

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