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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 685464 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#557136 Aug 26, 2014
Liam wrote:
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Most Catholics are outraged by this. In fact, that's how you came to know about the story. It was Catholics in those diocese who spoke up.. I said last week on the Miami archbishop who lives in an oceanside mansion with a pool: its disgusting. I dont care if those homes were donated by wealthy contributors, its wrong. Most live humbly, including the three Bishops in the twin cities.. Small one bedroom apartments. u wouldnt care about those guys- you'd just assume throw em all under the bus.

Any more solo Jehovahs come to your door? Lol.
.......I am hoping he comes back one day. He was fascinating, and not a hateful bone in his body. You could learn from him Liam. As I said we never discussed religion. He looked like he was worn out all those dedicated years of service.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#557137 Aug 26, 2014
Chuck wrote:
John 8:31 Jesus said, "if you abide in my word, you truly are my disciples".
So if folks like Demas don't abide in His word, how we're they truly His disciples????
Chuck,

There are two important things that Jesus is tell us here......listen to Jesus.....

If you abide in my word, you truly are my disciples.

Jesus defines one of the terms of discipleship.....do you see it?

Jesus is impressing upon the believer the importance of His word.

'abide in His word'.........continue in and do not to depart from it.......abiding is not a short term concept......we are supposed to be 'abiding in His Word' until the end......

We (as Christians) are to constantly remain in Jesus' Words.

Remember the little word "if" is very critical......

What happens to the Christian "IF" they don't continue in Jesus' Words???

What happens to the christian "IF" they don't continue "IN CHRIST JESUS???

Remember....Jesus is the Word of God.......
guest

United States

#557138 Aug 26, 2014
Truth wrote:
Chuck,
Do you believe that a Christian can walk away from their FIRST LOVE???
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hojo wrote:
Of course!......People do it "all the time" in marriage!.........
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And what about when they are "married to the church", hojo?
or do those who order the torture and murder of heretics get a free pass? you know ... the popes and the priests who ordered tortures and murders ...for centuries on end?
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you walk away from the FIRST LOVE when you walk away from the Word of God and obey the word of mere men.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#557140 Aug 26, 2014
Liam wrote:
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Most Catholics are outraged by this. In fact, that's how you came to know about the story. It was Catholics in those diocese who spoke up.. I said last week on the Miami archbishop who lives in an oceanside mansion with a pool: its disgusting. I dont care if those homes were donated by wealthy contributors, its wrong. Most live humbly, including the three Bishops in the twin cities.. Small one bedroom apartments. u wouldnt care about those guys- you'd just assume throw em all under the bus.
Any more solo Jehovahs come to your door? Lol.
But then again Mikey failed to notice that it was Protestants who were bringing up things about Joyce Meiers not Catholics, but he gleefully and swiftly assigns it to all Catholics on this forum, lol BTW the German Bishop was suspended and after he was investigated he resigned. I guess Mikey is in charge of the Protestants. ;0 Oh wait Mikey is just living his life and playing the hypocrite telling others they need not worry what others believe while he fixates obsessively with no integrity on one group. MIkey fair and balanced the best fishwrap in town. ;0 Its actually kind of strange to see single mattresses. In St Paul some people dont realize that quite often homeless are given a place to eat and sleep, hooked up with charites and given a chance. Its hard to get a job when you have no job, no money, no car and you smell. Some people complain about the smelly homeless people that sit on the benches in their church and make them smell when sometimes all they want is a place to sit down, or perhaps actually sleep a little in cool, warm or dry place. The bottom line is lavish living is not a norm. Despite the belief of some Protestants that the Pope has a crystal ball and is all knowing and every Bishop, priest, deacon, politician, prime minister, pres. or king or lay Catholic hinges on every word there are people with some sense. Mikey has none. Yeah solo Jehovah witnesses that want to chat football with Mikey are a dime a dozen. lol
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#557142 Aug 26, 2014
marge wrote:
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None of your business what I do chucky, I am who God says I am and I only have to answer to my husband.
Marge,

You wrote:

I only have to answer to my husband.

Is this correct Christian attitude???

But the path of the righteous is like the light of dawn, That shines brighter and brighter until the full day. The way of the wicked is like darkness; They do not know over what they stumble.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#557143 Aug 26, 2014
marge wrote:
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Do you think smoking cigars is a sin?
Marge,

Again, is you body a temple for God to dwell in???
guest

United States

#557144 Aug 26, 2014
guest wrote:
The tithe was instituted to support the Levitical Priesthood and the Jewish Temple. When the Temple was destroyed in 70 CE, the records of the Tribe of Levi were also destroyed. The Priesthood dissolved, so too did the obligation to pay tithes.
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Supporting the Jewish Temple is a far cry from supporting Evangelical Pastors as they live in the lap of luxury and their parishioners are suffering and going hungry. Far too many Evangelicals have made themselves filthy rich in this manner and even flaunting their wealth and declaring they have great wealth because God has 'blessed' them abundantly for their efforts.
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So, the question becomes: To Whom Do the Evangelical Pastors pay THEIR "tithes" to? Themselves? I'll bet if their finances were scrutinized, there would be no record of their paying tithes. And not being of the Levitical Priesthood, they have no legitimate right to collect tithes.
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Remember ...Christ had no place to lay his head and the Apostles, also, were not ones to copy the lifestyle of the Pharisees.
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Oxbow wrote:
I will not play your merry-go-round game...when you can refute this truth...lets talk...any thing else will be trashed...
Tithe: The institution or obligation of paying tithes. A tax or assessment of one tenth.
An obligation is not giving...a tax is not giving...The Scripture you quoted speaks of giving...freely...has nothing to do with tithing...
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I know what a tithe is, and that it is an "obligation" and "not giving" ... & that it is a tax.
But the tithe was a tax imposed to support the Levitical Priesthood and the Jewish Temple. No further burden was put upon Christians, especially at the point in time that the Temple was destroyed and the Levitical priesthood was no longer in place.
The scriptures you quoted are the ones I used, and the scripture I quoted - which you did not use - pertains to the Christians and not the Jews. Christians were instructed to give freely, and never was a 10% tax imposed.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#557145 Aug 26, 2014
Chuck wrote:
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Hank, if they do what does this passage mean?
John 8:31 So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed him,“If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples,
**so if they walk away from their first love, were they truly disciples?
Chuck,

Conditional.....

"But I have this against you, that you have left your first love...because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth."

Why did they leave, Chuck???

Lukewarm....they were NEITHER hot nor cold.....

What are the consequences???

I will spit you out of My mouth.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#557146 Aug 26, 2014
Robert F wrote:
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Oxbow
Peace
To begin, I think your analogy of a saved person in Christ is like Noah was in the ark, has overreached a bit. There is a typology. But it ends with your statement that "God shut the door".
In fact God did not do so. But it was rather Noah's obedience to what God had said to do, which was part of their salvation, and those of the animals in the ark. Thus to think that one's life is definitively sealed(God has shut the door, or OSAS), is not applicable here.(I admit, that at first it does "sound" good, but, if you examine the scripture on Noah and the Ark, I am sure you will agree, and not really find, that God shut the door..., so to speak. And in light of that, it is because of a presumption you believe it to be so.)
Your scripture, of course can stand alone, but it does not really say that OSAS is in effect. Rather it omits it. To be a new creature in Christ, one has then received a Gift, Jesus Christ, and care must be taken to nurture that Gift within oneself. If on the other hand one does not, and ignores the calling of the Holy Spirit, or one's conscience, then I would agree that one has had a superfluous relationship with Jesus Christ, and drifts away.
Yet some believe that such a superficial relationship with Jesus Christ, once accepted is enough to make them saved forever, because they had some experience in their life. They are more like the crowds often written about in the Gospels that followed Jesus to hear him, but then just went back to their homes and their own way of life.(And they no doubt believed they were better people for having listened, or even "saved" in a sense, but can they really be?)
Peace
"God shut the door" means that God sealed their fate....safety from the flood...

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

What is your definition of "everlasting life"....what does "shall not come into condemnation;" mean?
What does "passed from death unto life" mean??

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#557147 Aug 26, 2014
Chuck....where are you???
Chuck wrote:
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I'll take that as a yes....
And you are hurting the gospel of christ. You are part of the reason there are atheists.
You confess Jesus as Lord and you deny Him with your lifestyle.
You only have to answer to your husband????!!!! Do what???!!!!
I'm glad my wife would never say something that stupid. She knows who she answers to.
What about wine and those who drink it??? Are they hurting the gospel?? What about those who make wine...are they also hurting the gospel????

Ah await your reply....surely you have one...
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#557148 Aug 26, 2014
Chuck wrote:
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If you don't abide, you were never truly disciples. You don't see that???
Those who are truly Christ's disciples will abide in His Word..
Chuck,

After being a Christian for a while, can't a Christian become entangled in worldly pollution, again???

The Christian can fall from the way of the truth, and (again) become sinners.

"For if after they have escaped the pollution of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are <<<<<again >>>>> entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it ~~~~~to turn~~~~~ from the holy commandment delivered unto them".

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#557149 Aug 26, 2014
guest wrote:
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I know what a tithe is, and that it is an "obligation" and "not giving" ... & that it is a tax.
But the tithe was a tax imposed to support the Levitical Priesthood and the Jewish Temple. No further burden was put upon Christians, especially at the point in time that the Temple was destroyed and the Levitical priesthood was no longer in place.
The scriptures you quoted are the ones I used, and the scripture I quoted - which you did not use - pertains to the Christians and not the Jews. Christians were instructed to give freely, and never was a 10% tax imposed.
I will not play your merry-go-round game...

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#557150 Aug 26, 2014
Oxbow wrote:
Chuck....where are you???
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What about wine and those who drink it??? Are they hurting the gospel?? What about those who make wine...are they also hurting the gospel????
"If you continue in My word
any idea when the USA made wine illegal? DOOFUS, fits you to a tee.lol
guest

United States

#557151 Aug 26, 2014
guest wrote:
I know what a tithe is, and that it is an "obligation" and "not giving" ... & that it is a tax.
But the tithe was a tax imposed to support the Levitical Priesthood and the Jewish Temple. No further burden was put upon Christians, especially at the point in time that the Temple was destroyed and the Levitical priesthood was no longer in place.
The scriptures you quoted are the ones I used, and the scripture I quoted - which you did not use - pertains to the Christians and not the Jews. Christians were instructed to give freely, and never was a 10% tax imposed.
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Oxbow wrote:
I will not play your merry-go-round game...
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It isn't merry-go-round. And it is not a game. Please, show me where Christians were required to pay 10% tax.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#557152 Aug 26, 2014
Oxbow wrote:
Chuck....where are you???
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What about wine and those who drink it??? Are they hurting the gospel?? What about those who make wine...are they also hurting the gospel????
Ah await your reply....surely you have one...
If you are a Christian who drinks, lets say you have a brother that is an unsaved alcoholic. You are at a family party and you have a beer with him. What will be his response when you tell him he has a drinking problem an he needs Christ as savior.

How quickly do you think he will call you a hypocrite??? Are you hurting the gospel by drinking .......absolutely.

what else do you and Marge need help with????

After reading this, may seem like I have experienced it huh?
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#557153 Aug 26, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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"Do you know how many people I can bring to Christ???"
No, and neither do you and your money.
Having money in no way relates to or equates to bringing people to Christ.
Having a good personal testimony is all that is required.
Water wells do not lead people to anything spirit related. Avoid flattering yourself over having money to do things.
As a donation to humanitarian projects your contributions are well placed and certainly the people there need good water.
It is not your money which leads people to Christ. It is your personal testimony.
Having money will not lead people to the Great Mystery, the Great Spirit, the flying spaghetti monster, the primordial soup, the Cosmos, nor Buddah or Allah either. ONLY people can do that.
Well, Aquarius, I have to disagree with you here......

Money buys bibles, teaching materials, items for children for the classrooms.....

People in the country of India don't even have homes.....so we could build them a home where other Christians can meet and have fellowship.....we can build small buildings where they can meet and have fellowship (which we have done in numerous places)

Having a well with clean water brings CONVERSATIONS which will lead back to the Body of Christ, which gives many opportunities to study with people and bring them the Gospel of Jesus Christ (which we have also done).....

There are also many more things that can be done.....
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#557154 Aug 26, 2014
guest wrote:
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I know what a tithe is, and that it is an "obligation" and "not giving" ... & that it is a tax.
But the tithe was a tax imposed to support the Levitical Priesthood and the Jewish Temple. No further burden was put upon Christians, especially at the point in time that the Temple was destroyed and the Levitical priesthood was no longer in place.
The scriptures you quoted are the ones I used, and the scripture I quoted - which you did not use - pertains to the Christians and not the Jews. Christians were instructed to give freely, and never was a 10% tax imposed.
Guest,

"He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully.~~~So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver."~~~

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#557155 Aug 26, 2014
Oxbow wrote:
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"God shut the door" means that God sealed their fate....safety from the flood...
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
What is your definition of "everlasting life"....what does "shall not come into condemnation;" mean?
What does "passed from death unto life" mean??
Oxbow

God did promise Noah, in his obedience, that he would deliver them from death by the flood.(In a similar way, Moses and the Israelites were delivered from the flood at the parting of the Red Sea. And yet all of that generation died except Joshua in the desert.) So what does that show us?
Noah and those members of his family, likewise died. And to extend that into the spiritual realm of Christ is a step to far, to say that one is permanently saved. It shows quite the opposite.

So just as in real life, if one walks in front of an oncoming car, or jumps off a high cliff, one may survive, likewise it is true of the Christian who does similarly(cause their death by sin in the spirit) with their faith, but there is no guarantee by God that His Judgment will not end in spiritual death, for those who abuse, or refuse the Christian way of life, after once accepting Christ as Lord.

Such a statement that he that hearth and believeth on him who sent me hath everlasting life, is just a part of the reality. We know that the demons and devil hear and believe whom Jesus is, does this mean that they have everlasting life?

It is when one hears and believes that begins the process of realizing one's hope, faith, and love are in Jesus Christ. So to "HEAR" means especially, while we are living that we have hope and faith in Jesus Christ. And while we are living, we do as Jesus did, and that is love God, one another, and take up our cross.

If one passes from death to eternal life, then why would not God reverse this process if one did not pursue the course of eternal life, but choose death by sinning, after someone is born again?(God does not override one's will before or after accepting Jesus as Lord.) But God's Mercy exceeds His need for Justice in the case of those who accept Christ. And it is there we have our confidence in the hope of eternal life with Him.

Peace

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#557156 Aug 26, 2014
atemcowboy wrote:
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any idea when the USA made wine illegal? DOOFUS, fits you to a tee.lol
Since you can't answer my questions...you babble...typical of a man "called of God"...
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#557157 Aug 26, 2014
Oxbow wrote:
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I will not play your merry-go-round game...
Ox,

Shouldn't Christians be investing in the advancement of His Kingdom with giving???

A man should give in proportion to what he has, and also as he plans, or purposes, in his heart.

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