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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 678893 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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truth

Perth, Australia

#552699 Aug 2, 2014
Did God choose family and protected that?
Saint Joseph mother Mary and Jesus!

What a about today right to protect family!!!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#552700 Aug 2, 2014
Liam wrote:
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I know lots of Protestants and they are good and noble people. I hope to be with them in Heaven one day.
Do you believe that if they stay attached to their Protestant "faith" that they WILL be "allowed" by Jesus and God to BE in heaven with you???

When I was a child I made a conscious choice to never believe that my Catholic friends would go to a hell of any type whatsoever. Instead I made a conscious choice that there was something dastardly wrong with what the Protestant preachers were preaching.

You chose to trust your Catholic theologians to give you universal truth. I chose to be confused by what the Protestant theologians taught and to keep asking questions of why what they taught didn't make sense to me.

You believe that the best part of your being is in a spirit realm with a judgmental god, and I believe that just as it is with non-human animals, humans live and die ... still not knowing the answers to what remains mysteries.

I'm not at all worried that a creator exists that in turn judges supposed human "spirits" or "souls" one way or the other. I believe that I can't do any better than my best, and that although in our own ways we are all suffering, within that suffering, just as occurs with non-human animals, we are whole, just as we are.
Free Agent of Jesus

Chicago, IL

#552701 Aug 2, 2014
Liam wrote:
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Fyi: the Gospels, also called:'memoirs of the Apostles' is some of the recollections of what Jesus verbally taught. Its the word of God.
The letters and epistles of Paul; Act's of the Apostles, and the other books , record the initial burst of Christianity and it's also , the word of God. What its not is a play by play; word by word constitution, broken down into verses to decipher each word and punctuation mark; analyzed by American pastors to figure out the secret hidden meaning of the ministry of Jesus Christ.
The Church we see in the NT is in her infancy; and
the "Christian family" didnt really exist. We see the Apostles baptizing adults, as it wouldn't be appropriate to Baptize their children first. Do you get my point?
And in that NT, we were warned that "the mystery of iniquity doth already work." From the onset, works-oriented Pharisees continually attempted to deceive the masses. The RCC was infiltrated and overtaken by those who did not believe in an immediate, direct, personal relationship with Jesus Christ without their mediation.

I say, if you do not have it, then you cannot possibly understand it.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#552702 Aug 2, 2014
I believe it is common for humans to want to believe that awareness does not end at physical death of human bodies.

One woman who loves gardening dealt with the issue in the following way.

She believes that as she works in her garden, when her skin flakes off and goes into the soil, her genes are then part of the earth, and in that way of believing "that is special to her" ... part of her lives on.

I'm not at all concerned if part of me lives on after death of my physical body. I'm content to be satisfied that whatever occurs with all other forms of life, is also quite enough for me.
Free Agent of Jesus

Chicago, IL

#552703 Aug 2, 2014
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Free Agent of Jesus"]<quoted text>Show me where Jesus baptized anyone. Paul, too. The thief on the cross next to Jesus - was he baptized after he arrived in Paradise?
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Jesus didn't baptize anyone, but the disciples who traveled with Him DID.
Joh 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,
Joh 4:2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)
But Jesus said:
Mar 16:16 He that believeth AND is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.(Notice that 'he that believeth NOT IS NOT BAPTIZED. It certainly is an important testimony.)
Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
The thief was certainly "baptized into His death". When one is baptized, for an instant they are as dead. No breath, no sight, no hearing, and they cannot speak.
KayMarie
And Paul related that baptism mirrored the Old Testament ritual of circumcision. And he said the Lord looks upon the "circumcision of the heart."

Are you siding with the Pharisees of Catholicism that believe baptism saves?

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#552704 Aug 2, 2014
Free Agent of Jesus wrote:
<quoted text>And in that NT, we were warned that "the mystery of iniquity doth already work." From the onset, works-oriented Pharisees continually attempted to deceive the masses. The RCC was infiltrated and overtaken by those who did not believe in an immediate, direct, personal relationship with Jesus Christ without their mediation.
I say, if you do not have it, then you cannot possibly understand it.
Understand WHAT ... that your indoctrination was different than the Catholics, so Jesus and God love you and not the Catholics???

If you don't care to question what you were taught by your Protestant theologians, you will keep on preaching nonsense at others as being based on universal truth.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#552705 Aug 2, 2014
truth wrote:
Did God choose family and protected that?
Saint Joseph mother Mary and Jesus!
What a about today right to protect family!!!
Had you been raised in a family of Hindus, your terminology would not be that of a Catholic. You would believe that Krishna is your savior.

If you accept that specific point of view ... only then will you broaden your perceptions to view your concept of reality from a different perspective.

But you must first lose your fear that a god will punish you for not having complete faith in your Catholic indoctrination.

That is the stickler.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#552706 Aug 2, 2014
Free Agent of Jesus wrote:
<Are you siding with the Pharisees of Catholicism that believe baptism saves?
WOW!

Is that supposed to make peace between Protestants and Catholics ... or WAR???

You are now conversing with another Protestant, and the two of you don't even see eye to eye on the meanings of words.

Amazing how all the wars have taught you nothing but to believe that YOU know universal truth and others are dumb compared to YOU.

Give a greedy human religious literature and the words will automatically go straight to the EGO. "I KNOW TRUTH ... blah, blah, blah."

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#552707 Aug 2, 2014
Only people who have fear in them will accept that a devil and a hell and a judgmental creator exists.

Faith in a fair process does allow fear to enter.

I have always been afraid of physical suffering, as having experienced it, I knew that it was and is something TO fear.

But even when I was under the spell of the idea that a creator was real, I never feared any part of religion. NEVER. I simply deluded my self with the concept that God was LOVE ... and ignored the part about all the suffering of all forms of life having anything in common with the "loving" creator.

Finally, I stopped deluding my self and faced the fact that suffering of all forms of life and a LOVING creator did NOT make any sense whatsoever.

That is when I waved my last farewell to all sentiments of religion.

Free ... at last, to in turn have peace within.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#552708 Aug 2, 2014
I don't wish to see my deceased loved ones in some supposed future life.

I don't want to entertain a belief that they have to reincarnate to suffer again ... or that they have to spend eternity worrying about pleasing a judgmental creator.

To have been emotionally attached to them meant that I had to "after the process of grieving" become unattached.

My broken heart was mine and I had to slowly cut the strings that tied me in memory to them in order to set myself free and not allow the memories to hold me in bondage within my self.

My hope for them is that they rest in peace.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#552709 Aug 2, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I will put it this way. I could write that "you" were speaking of a noble man, and you would have no control over what I wrote that you said about the supposed noble man.
Nowhere in any Christian literature does a man named Jesus say "I" wrote these words.
There is no signature by such a man, nor is there any writing in his first person HAND-WRITING. Every story about what this supposed "savior" was supposed to have said and done was written by MEN with agendas.
If you don't GET that, it is your problem.
Pitiful attempt at deflection June.
>YOU< were the author of that sad smear attempt dear. It was >YOUR< writings on the matter which are in question you lying scum ... not the writers of the ancient manuscripts.
>YOUR< agenda is clearly on display however, as >YOU< distorted what even they wrote ... all agendas aside.
<smile>

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#552710 Aug 2, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Again I will remind you ... that just as did Martin Luther, you are USING words approved of by Catholics to vilify the Catholics.
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And again I will tell you straight out ... it does NOT matter who said or wrote the words used to, uh,'convict' anyone, including Catholics.
A person is either guilty of an act or they are not. Who defined or wrote about the act itself, is irrelevant dear.
NO ONE cares which edited version was used June. That is because it is irrelevant and everyone sees it but you dear. Get over it.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#552711 Aug 2, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>
Pitiful attempt at deflection June.
>YOU< were the author of that sad smear attempt dear. It was >YOUR< writings on the matter which are in question you lying scum ... not the writers of the ancient manuscripts.
>YOUR< agenda is clearly on display however, as >YOU< distorted what even they wrote ... all agendas aside.
<smile>
So do you invest your faith in the truth of ALL of the ancient manuscripts ... or just the ones that you find pleasing to your new age beliefs???

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#552712 Aug 2, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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BS.
That site is a modern site - with a modern religion that is trying to blossom within Catholicism. This should have helped you when you arrived at the site:
"THE GNOSTIC WRITINGS OF EDWARD J. PARKINSON, PHD"
DOH!!
Just so you stay on the right path - here is a link and excerpt from www.catholic.com that clearly dispenses your theory.
http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/whats-...
"It's unclear when gnosticism began. Many Church Fathers thought gnosticism was founded by Simon Magus, the Samaritan sorcerer who converted to Christianity (Acts 8:9-24). Some contemporary scholars think gnosticism started a few centuries before Christianity and then invaded it from the outside through the conversion to Christianity of Jewish and Gentile gnostics. Other scholars believe gnosticism started as a Christian heresy."
It is VERY clear when gnosticism began NASL.
It began the very moment it became known to the human race that there are other entities out there in the universe which we mere humans are unable to interact with on a regular daily basis due to space/time constraints of one form or another.
The gnostics of ancient human packs all over the world predate any and all Christian references to gnosticism. Gnosticism is most certainly not a Christian monopoly of belief.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#552713 Aug 2, 2014
Humans are great as myth-makers. Truth might however be another "matter."
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>

David Williams claims that the Age of Aquarius arrived around 1844, with the harbinger of the Siyyid `Alí Mu&#7717;ammad (1819–1850), who founded Bábism. Williams adopts a sub-period approach to the ages whereby each age is divided into three decans. The three age-decans of the Aquarian Age in chronological order are Libra, Gemini and Aquarius. Williams states that the world is currently in the Libran decan of the Age of Aquarius which is why the world has been so affected by wars (due to Libra) and revolutions (due to Aquarius). He attributes the rise of Socialism, Communism, and Fascism to the Age of Aquarius.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Aquarius

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#552715 Aug 2, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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NO ONE cares which edited version was used June. That is because it is irrelevant.
If your belief is irrelevant to you, then why are you on a forum expressing your "irrelevance?"

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#552717 Aug 2, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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It is VERY clear when gnosticism began NASL.
It began the very moment it became known to the human race that there are other entities out there in the universe which we mere humans are unable to interact with on a regular daily basis due to space/time constraints of one form or another.
The gnostics of ancient human packs all over the world predate any and all Christian references to gnosticism. Gnosticism is most certainly not a Christian monopoly of belief.
The word Gnostic means knowledge.

Mysteries remain mysteries because humans can't PROVE their claims that they own universal knowledge.

Preaching is all about huffing and puffing with no substance TO the huffing and puffing.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#552718 Aug 2, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Just as does the poster New Age Spiritual Leader believe that his HOLY group of Christians were the first Christians ... you suffer from the same BLIGHT.
You both have convinced your selves that the Catholics were evil and took the religion off in their own agendas, while your groups of devotees were the PURE, UNDEFILED humans that followed nothing BUT the divine guidance.
How funny! The Jehovah's witnesses and the Mormons also claim that THEY are aligned to the REAL Christianity!
EGOS reign SUPREME.
Your point is moot June.
Here's why.
You make the mistake of assuming that there is only one truth, one reality, one path.
You are simply mistaken June.
I say it is entirely possible that they are all on the "right" path ... their path.
What works for the one, does not necessarily work for the other.

DUH.

Some people can tie a whip finish on a fishing fly with their bare hands. Others have to use a tying tool to make that knot, some others use a tool but a tool of a different design, and still others have yet to tie a single whip finish ... with or without a tool. They simply lack the ability to grasp the idea of how the knot goes together ... apparently.
If you can not "GET" that, than there is no way to help you dear.

Again ... moot point June.
Try again.
Gods r Delusions x Mine

Winter Park, FL

#552719 Aug 2, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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And again I will tell you straight out ... it does NOT matter who said or wrote the words used to, uh,'convict' anyone, including Catholics.
A person is either guilty of an act or they are not. Who defined or wrote about the act itself, is irrelevant dear.
NO ONE cares which edited version was used June. That is because it is irrelevant and everyone sees it but you dear. Get over it.
Wrong.
Gods r Delusions x Mine

Winter Park, FL

#552720 Aug 2, 2014
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
What we know for sure is that we need to be Baptized. That is the deposit of faith and that's what we gotta go with. The Bible deals with the initial spread of Christianity while adults were hearing the Gospel for the first time in human history, and the Apostles were Baptizing them. What you dont understand is that Baptism to the Christian is like circumcision to the Jews;
( Colossians 2: 11-12).. its an initiation into the family of God. Immediately the new Christian families in the first century baptized thier children, just like Jews circumcised theirs.. This is supported by archeology with the discovery of first century catacombs documenting the Baptismal of infants. Imo, the modern born again movement doesn't understand that the plan of God is that two couples in the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony, conceive a child, and Baptize them into Christ's Church; raising them in the faith and giving them the guidance thru the Church to get to Heaven. People today seem to think you gotta hit rock bottom in life, then throw your arms up to 'get saved'. Well, that ain't the normal route..
What is the "normal" rioute other than being born into the "right"sect.

That's arbitray and unjust, exactly like your murderous, unjust god-figure.

57,000 children and counting, all because of foolish "perfect church" teaching on family planning.

Get over it. We are sick of supporting your deadbeats.

peace and love,
ramen

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