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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 699460 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Dec 06

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#551296 Jul 24, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I suggest you stop trying to bullshit a bullshitter.
You believe that being a Catholic gives you a very HIGH vantage point that all others don't HAVE who are not of your Catholic FAITH.
That is the reason that you left your Protestant religion behind as refuse.
June

No one has a special spiritual antenna. Some just spend a little more time tuning in the radio signal, as we did in the old days.....

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#551297 Jul 24, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I suggest you stop trying to bullshit a bullshitter.
Good....baby steps in honesty is all that I ask.....thank you "BSer".

:o)

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#551298 Jul 24, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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You believe you have LOVE in your possession, and others are not so fortunate.
Wrong again.
Why do you make false claims about others? I suggest it is because you can face the truth of yourself?
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>If that were not true, you would not be here feeling sorry for others and trying to lead them on YOUR self-perceived DIVINE "spiritual" path.
I don't feel sorry for anyone. They've chosen their path they are on. I've give plenty of details that will help them in their life and their journey.
They can take it or leave it - people make their own choices.
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>You give the impression that your self is HOLY and in order to "succeed" others need to learn to be just like you.
Not at all....I'm human...I make mistakes because I am human....but I don't dwell on the mistakes too long.
I move forward and ALWAYS trying to better my life. If I happen to get a chance to help out another - I take it. Just like I've done for you....I've tried top give you some core wisdom that you lack terribly, but I regress.....you continue to battle your way from understanding them.
Sorry June - it is only your choices that have caused you to be whom you are today. I had nothing to do with that. But I am here to help if you decide to change.
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>Arrogantology!!!
There is no such thing or word or even belief.....except in your own world, huh?

Why are you so angry at others for believing differently than you do?
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#551301 Jul 24, 2014
We are all on the forum to try to persuade others that our way of believing is the best way TO believe.

If that was not true, we would not BE posting on a forum.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#551302 Jul 24, 2014
It is common sense that a spirit could not create it's self, so in religious terminology, a creator, otherwise known as a spirit manufacturer would have HAD to create human spirits.

Because I am now an Atheist, I believe that non-human animals are driven either by pleasant or nasty emotions, as are humans, and it has nothing whatever in common with being spiritual as in being lead by a holy god or lead by an evil devil.
Liam

Saint Paul, MN

#551303 Jul 24, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
We are all on the forum to try to persuade others that our way of believing is the best way TO believe.
If that was not true, we would not BE posting on a forum.
Then you are no different than an evangelical Christian.. Some would even say you have a "god" your trying to promote.
Liam

Saint Paul, MN

#551304 Jul 24, 2014
Robert F wrote:
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June
No one has a special spiritual antenna. Some just spend a little more time tuning in the radio signal, as we did in the old days.....
Good analogy.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#551305 Jul 24, 2014
Those in religion are fond of implying that those who disagree with their religious dogmas are being lead astray by a devil ... while those who agree with their dogmas chose (against all temptations) to follow the teachings of the holy God.

I never did buy that slop as being based on truth.

One of my acquaintances said that she and her husband for a brief time belonged to the Jehovah's Witness cult, until they came to realize that the Jehovah's Witnesses were (in her own words) "no better than other humans."

Since: Jul 08

Dublin, OH

#551306 Jul 24, 2014
Oxbow wrote:
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Their fathers abandoned them.
Give me the names of "their"...
Oxbow wrote:
Where are you lying snake????
Chess wrote:
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Of course you don't,'tard.
Their fathers abandoned them.
Give me the names of "their"...
Ah am waiting!!!!!
Oxbow wrote:
Where are you lying snake????
Chess wrote:
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Of course you don't,'tard.
Their fathers abandoned them.
Give me the names of "their"...
Ah am waiting!!!!!
Repetitive nonsense from a 'tard.

"Their fathers abandoned them."

What a hoot.

Do you have the slightest clue what you're posting about?
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#551307 Jul 24, 2014
When a rabid dog shows its teeth and growls, humans don't ever say that it is filled with the devil. They say they were frightened by its behavior.

But many times I've heard humans claim that another person who was extremely angry looked just like "pure EVIL" indicating that the person had taken on the persona of the DEVIL.

They learned that terminology from their religious preachers.

Since: Feb 14

Location hidden

#551308 Jul 24, 2014
Mi Lin wrote:
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Quite the opposite. The Catholic church has endured the centuries. The others have not. It is the oldest established Christian church on earth. It has much tradition. As an Oriental I love tradition. My Chinese culture holds dear ancient traditions because they embody a connection to past times and ancestors.
By Tradition the Catholic Church is the Alpha & Omega of Churches..
The rest are of the litter..
That doesn't mean they're right..
They slaughtered true followers of Christ, and basically labeled " God " and put him on the market..
They " hijacked " Jesus and Interjected themselves as " God "

Since: Jul 08

Dublin, OH

#551309 Jul 24, 2014
Oxbow wrote:
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Absolute truth....no nonsense...you got it!!! Here tis!!!
You cannot refute truth...but...keep on keeping on..
Now you know why I call you lying snake...
Not so....Requirements need to be met to be so guilty....Per your post. A requirement to be guilty is:"pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own". Never did...not guilty..
If I said "Here are my words" and then posted info from an article on the net...I would be guilty as charged...and it would be easy to prove...by you simply using your search engine...
That never happened and never will..
theft: 1.(Law) criminal law the dishonest taking of property belonging to another person with the intention of depriving the owner permanently of its possession..
Not guilty....
thief: a person who steals something from another
Not guilty...it never happened...
Oxbow wrote:
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I know we have been over this again and again...I keep hoping that some day you will see the truth..
I got this info from you!!!! It clearly spells out a particular requirement for there to be something plagiarized...."pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own". Never did...not guilty..
This example clarifies the truth in the info you provided!!!!
If I said "Here are my words" and then posted info from an article on the net...I would be guilty as charged...and it would be easy to prove...by you simply using your search engine...
That never happened and never will..
For a theft to have occurred you have to prove the property was taken with the intention of depriving the owner permanently of its possession..that never happened!!!!! The websites still have their info!!!!!
Not guilty...
Redundant rants and incorrect.

Plagiarism is "an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another author without authorization and the representation of that author's work as one's own, as by not crediting the original author...."

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/plagia...

Pay special attention to that last clause, "as by not crediting the original author".

Thief.

Since: Feb 14

Location hidden

#551310 Jul 24, 2014
Robert F wrote:
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June
No one has a special spiritual antenna. Some just spend a little more time tuning in the radio signal, as we did in the old days.....

We all are connected to " it " with spiritual antenna, it's called conscience
( Awareness )
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#551311 Jul 24, 2014
Liam wrote:
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Then you are no different than an evangelical Christian.. Some would even say you have a "god" your trying to promote.
"Some" would be WRONG.

I'm trying to encourage people to leave all religion ... including yours.

All you ever do is brag that Catholicism is aligned to the mindset of Jesus and God ... and the Protestants and Gnostic Christians contradict your thesis with the same story on their preferential sides of the religious COINs.

Heads versus TALES ... with no winners.

Since: Jul 08

Dublin, OH

#551312 Jul 24, 2014
Oxbow wrote:
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No advance determination...their stand was/is based on them applying the law to their situation...logic says this came about from lawyers they hired to advise them...
Merriam-Webster have determined that by applying the law to their situation, their material is not fair use....that is why they say " All rights reserved. No part of the work embodied in Merriam-Webster's pages on the World Wide Web and covered by the copyrights hereon may be reproduced or copied in any form or by any meansógraphic, electronic, or mechanical, including photocopying, taping, or information storage and retrieval systemsówithout the written permission of the publisher.
Requests for permission to use or reproduce should be mailed to: Permissions Editor, Merriam-Webster Inc., P.O. Box 281, Springfield, MA
You ain't got permission...
Incorrect ignorance.

A determination can only be made when the proposed or actual use is know. As the Senate Judiciary Committee report on the Copyright Act noted, "... each case raising the question must be decided on its own facts."

Section 107 of the copyright law provides, "[T]he fair use of a copyrighted work ... is not an infringement of copyright."

And, under that section, the US Supreme Court has applied the fair use test even after a copyright holder denied a specific request for permission. Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc., 510 US 569 (1994).

Since: Jul 08

Dublin, OH

#551313 Jul 24, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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So he was a good man to teach children that those who were not Protestant would burn in hell???
Yet you are VERY offended when others suggest that YOU will spend eternity in hell for not being in their religion.
Double standards are common with religious devotees. It's the nature of those in cults.
Doesn't especially offend me.

I know it's pretend.

Perhaps your projecting.

And yes. He seems to have been a good man in the balance from what I know of him.

How does your life stack up?

Since: Jul 08

Dublin, OH

#551314 Jul 24, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Everything we believe was first written by others. So everything is being plagiarized.
For instance ... some man wrote that Jesus said such and such. Is reposting fairy tales plagiarism? I suggest that the fairy tales were plagiarized without adding the real name of the real author. And not only that ... they were morphed into the concept that the tales were based on literal truth.
Yet not one signature or one word can anyone find in Jesus' own hand-writing ... which means WHAT???
Myths can and are constantly being plagiarized without a need to post the name of the authors.
Incorrect.

Plagiarism is "an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another author without authorization and the representation of that author's work as one's own, as by not crediting the original author...."

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/plagia...

Common knowlege generally need not be credited. If we had to credit the source for everything we said or wrote, none of us would get much of anything done. And it wouldn't be possible anyway.

Where to draw the line is a fuzzy one, but if you think there is no distinction between wholesale copying of the words of someone else without credit, even their words about a matter that is common knowledge, talk to Doris Kerns Goodwin, Jason Blair, or the countless other professionals, academics, and students who have suffered more than just embarrasment or social stigma as a consequence of that.

Eh?
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#551315 Jul 24, 2014
Mi Lin wrote:
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Quite the opposite. The Catholic church has endured the centuries. The others have not. It is the oldest established Christian church on earth. It has much tradition. As an Oriental I love tradition. My Chinese culture holds dear ancient traditions because they embody a connection to past times and ancestors.
......catholic church history is more about hand me down family tradition than the actual belief itself.

.....Most catholics are so because they were born into the faith. If catholicism depended on people not being rushed to baptism by their parents at three months old but waited until they were adults to determine which belief that to follow, the catholic church would be much, much smaller than it is today.
USA Born

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#551316 Jul 24, 2014
RoSesz wrote:
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I believe the Christian churches were following Christ's directive...there was a schism when Rome took supremacy, but even then they spread God's word.
I still believe Christ never intended the RCC to then become as a Caesar, pertaining not only priests,but kings...involved in Crusades and Inquisitiins, building a palatial Vatican with POPES unfit to tie Peters shoes ....if there was a succession of Bishops of Rome it as surely broken by ungodly men in that chair.
I also believe Christ built the Church on the FAITH in Jesus as Messiah and Saviour dying once and for all to pay a sin debt WE CAN NEVER PAY ..HE said it is finished ..and He used that revelation to Luther who was an imperfect human trying to REFORM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH .
God knew this,would happen . The RC Church after this,lost its,secular power...bibles were eventually in houses, the Faith spread to the New World much faster than only Spanish missions .......and the RCC itself was so reformed it does,not call itself Roman anymore as it did when I was a child .
We still have ONLY ONE MEDIATOR , JESUS CHRIST ..He is neither Pope/ nor High Priest , though I think some modern popes seek much more to do Gods will than their medieval predecessors. Imo again.
The Reformation was needed . GOD used it ..was,it perfect , no ...but God does use imperfection in humans..we became a country who would eventually spread the WORD and ALLY with the new country of Israel and even help it into existence .THIS WAS NO ACCIDENT .
I don't believe an only CATHOLIC bunch of colonies would have helped Israel nor spread the gospel as widely over the New nation..nor become a,powerful country to do Gods will in this .
The current scandals in ALL churches,are not God's will ..but the Catholic church is much better for the Reformation itself ...AGAIN MY OPINION and belief.
Nice to meet you
I agree with you. I think Peter was a devout believer in Christ and endured more than I could but, Peter was still just a man. I can never believe Christ built his church based on what a man said. I do believe the very foundation of any Chruch should be that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#551317 Jul 24, 2014
Mi Lin wrote:
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Quite the opposite. The Catholic church has endured the centuries. The others have not. It is the oldest established Christian church on earth. It has much tradition. As an Oriental I love tradition. My Chinese culture holds dear ancient traditions because they embody a connection to past times and ancestors.
All people that adore their own religions tell the same story.

It's just too bad they can't also adore other people's religions with as much passion as they adore their own.

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