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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 685932 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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#549221 Jul 14, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Please TRY to stay focused long enough to answer my question Robert.
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Do you believe that people who kill each other as heretics and infidels in the belief that a god will reward them with eternal bliss in a hereafter are SANE???
June

It is possible that some of these people are sane, or insane.

Consider most wars of aggression for resources is caused by misdirected loyalty and patriotism....Are all these people insane?
(If resources are lacking, then instead there should be education, and further technological improvement rather than war....Don't you think?)

I think mobs are in general insane, and perhaps that is why I am rather reclusive....

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#549222 Jul 14, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I understand that you believe that Jesus and God NEED you to preach your Protestant religion at others as universal truth Oxbow ... Honestly ... I DO understand that you took that impression from your KJV.
I also have a KJV bible that my dear departed Mother passed on to me, but I didnít FALL for their LINES of flattery as did you.
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In the second page of the King James version of the bible the words read as follows......
THE BIBLE
THIS BOOK REVEALS THE MIND OF GOD, the state of man, the way of salvation, the doom of sinners, and the happiness of believers.
ITS DOCTRINES ARE HOLY, its precepts are binding, its histories are true, and its decisions are immutable.
READ IT AND BE WISE, believe it to be safe, and practise it to be holy. It contains light to direct you, food to support you, and comfort to cheer you.
If you have something to say about my post...bring it on...

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No...it means now what it meant earlier...your words are a crock...
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June VanDerMark wrote:
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You mean you don't "want" my advice.
I guarantee that if you hadn't been born, if Jesus and God exist, they would get along quite well without you telling us what they think.
hojo

Waconia, MN

#549223 Jul 14, 2014
Michael wrote:
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....(lol). Why should your church not be criticized when things go wrong?
.....Your church leaders have done a great job of helping catholics to walk away.
.....Pope Francis says 2% of priests/bishops are pedo,s. 418786 priests and bishops worldwide.. That means 8,376 Pedo clergy mixing in with everyone.
....Where is the justice?
And why are you so "zero'd in" on JUST the Catholic Church when it is a "known and proven fact" that Protestant sexual abuse "equals or exceed" that of the Catholic Church... The fact that the Catholic Church has been extensively delaying with abuse in their Churches for the past 3+ years while Protestants are " in denial " all the while trying to " cover up" their own scandal being "hypocritical" as they continue to attack and rip the Catholic Church..... Face it Michael!!!...YOU have an anti-Catholic agenda that has polluted your mind, heart and soul JUST like the bible only fundamentalists who ""waive their bibles" claiming to be "squeaky clean" while the their Protestant pot continues to remain "polluted, soiled and contaminated...
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#549225 Jul 14, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I'm happy that you are here.
However you are not happy that I am here.
Preachers of religion want others to believe they know the MIND of a supposed GOD.
I KNOW that I will have to wait until I die to experience whether or not I will be punished or rewarded by a creator.
I have no fear however ... while you DO have a LOT of fear ... because you have invested your complete faith in the abstract idea that a devil and hell are REAL ... and I declined when I was a child to make that investment.
I don't care if you post here or there. Why do you pretend to know what others feel or think? I have no fear as you describe. You recently admitted you had fear of hell now you say you don't.
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#549226 Jul 14, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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ALL Christian theology makes it plain that Jesus was a Jewish rabbi before he came to be a supporter of ONLY Christians.
You USE the Christian bible which is based ON the Christian religion to claim that Jesus had no use for religion.
Religion drove more than a few people totally insane.
It will entangle your thoughts to a point where you will (if you're not careful) commit suicide.
Many members of clergy have committed suicide and it's becoming more prevalent each day.
Be careful!
The word Christian wasn't even used until after Christ rose. Instead of trying to entangle my mind, untangle yours and at least learn something about what you try to degrade, instead of making it up as you go.

You can do nothing to my mind or any part of me. Your suicide garbage is rather funny too.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#549227 Jul 14, 2014
Robert F wrote:
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June
It is possible that some of these people are sane, or insane.
Consider most wars of aggression for resources is caused by misdirected loyalty and patriotism....Are all these people insane?
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Which ones do you believe were sane when they were certain that a god wanted them to kill others as heretics and infidels and witches?

Would it be the Catholics that you believe were SANE???

The members of the mafia didn't LIE that a God wanted them to kill in his name. They weren't insane ... they were honest about their reason for killing. They wanted MONEY and POWER over others.

It was the men of religion that ALL claimed gods commanded them to kill. From my perspective that is INSANITY ... especially if they BELIEVED what they were preaching was based on universal truth.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#549228 Jul 14, 2014
Robert F wrote:
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June
Check out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_priori_and_a_p...
It will give you a clue as to what it means....
I'll stick with the interpretation that pleases me ... not you.
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Priori

A Priori is a philosophical term that is used in several different ways. The term is suppose to mean knowledge that is gained through deduction, and not through empirical evidence.

https://www.google.ca/ ...

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#549229 Jul 14, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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So then are you preaching the sermon that God and Jesus won't reject me to hell for not believing in their existence and their POWER TO REJECT.
What WONDERFUL NEWS.
Thank you Oxbow. Now I KNOW your message came through.
Catholics and those in other religions and Agnostics and Atheists will be save from God's wrath ... because he just doesn't care what we believe or don't believe.
Sorry to poke fun at you ... but it's why I am here.
I want people to see the stupidity of all religion.
Try squinting...stand on one leg,,,hold your breath...that might help you..

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

A. What causes a person to be not condemned??
B. What causes a person to be condemned already??
C. Are either caused by a denomination? By a religion? By the lack of a religion??

Is being an atheist the cause of a person being condemned already?? Absolutely..Atheist: One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods...

Can an atheist be saved?? Absolutely...if he is converted before he dies..converted: to revert (literally, figuratively or morally):--come (go) again, convert,(re-)turn (about, again).
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#549230 Jul 14, 2014
USA Born wrote:
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I don't care if you post here or there. Why do you pretend to know what others feel or think? I have no fear as you describe. You recently admitted you had fear of hell now you say you don't.
If you have no fear of going to hell ... then you are arrogant in the certainty that you are absolutely SAVED.

There IS no middle road in the Christian religion.

I never in my whole life believed in the existence of any of the hells in religion ... so I couldn't possibly have fear concerning that ridiculous idiocy.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#549231 Jul 14, 2014
USA Born wrote:
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The word Christian wasn't even used until after Christ rose.
I agree that the Catholics waited until long after Jesus supposedly converted to Catholicism and rose to Catholic "heaven" before they started writing the tales that would ultimately become known as the new testament.

The author of Mother goose also waited until she died to write that story.

And do really think Santa Claus would be rewarding spoiled-rotten rug rats with presents??? That story was also compiled after Santa became invisible.

:)
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#549232 Jul 14, 2014
Oxbow wrote:
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Try squinting...stand on one leg,,,hold your breath...that might help you..
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
A. What causes a person to be not condemned??
B. What causes a person to be condemned already??
C. Are either caused by a denomination? By a religion? By the lack of a religion??
Is being an atheist the cause of a person being condemned already?? Absolutely..Atheist: One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods...
Can an atheist be saved?? Absolutely...if he is converted before he dies..converted: to revert (literally, figuratively or morally):--come (go) again, convert,(re-)turn (about, again).
I suggest that one of these day Jesus is going to get fed up with your Protestant lies and belt you a good one across your Protestant noggin.

:)

The Jewish theology is VERY plain that God still loves the Jews as his chosen few ... and that Jesus is alienated from God because he chose the Christian religion over Judaism.

Word from the sky is that Jesus is on heavy meditation about which Christian group he has to favor in order to save his self. Apparently he wasn't able to see the future in how he would be expected to serve so many different belief systems and he now has respiratory problems ... aching of his invisible joints and other complaints.

He's afraid to come back to earth because whoever he doesn't please will nail him to another cross ... and apparently he confessed that he had enough of that treatment the first time around.

:)
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#549233 Jul 14, 2014
Did you know that Jesus has a confessor in the sky? He desperately needs one, because all devotees on earth want from him is salvation, and he knows that they don't LOVE him, but rather that they just use him and need his services for their own agendas.

The one Jesus confesses to expects nothing from him. No strings attached whatsoever.

Isn't that enlightening???

It's the only time he is at peace.

tongue in cheek
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#549234 Jul 14, 2014
The Arrogance of Faith, by Forrest G. Wood

Preface

Anyone who needs to be reminded of the problem of relying on one version should know that, as Margaret T. Hillis pointed out, there were over 2,500 different English-language editions published in the United States prior to 1957.

Deciding which Bible to quote was simple compared to untangling the problem of languages.

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#549235 Jul 14, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I suggest that one of these day Jesus is going to get fed up with your Protestant lies and belt you a good one across your Protestant noggin.
:)
The Jewish theology is VERY plain that God still loves the Jews as his chosen few ... and that Jesus is alienated from God because he chose the Christian religion over Judaism.
Word from the sky is that Jesus is on heavy meditation about which Christian group he has to favor in order to save his self. Apparently he wasn't able to see the future in how he would be expected to serve so many different belief systems and he now has respiratory problems ... aching of his invisible joints and other complaints.
He's afraid to come back to earth because whoever he doesn't please will nail him to another cross ... and apparently he confessed that he had enough of that treatment the first time around.
:)
Since you have nothing to say about the info in my post...all else is ignored..

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Try squinting...stand on one leg,,,hold your breath...that might help you..
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
A. What causes a person to be not condemned??
B. What causes a person to be condemned already??
C. Are either caused by a denomination? By a religion? By the lack of a religion??
Is being an atheist the cause of a person being condemned already?? Absolutely..Atheist: One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods...
Can an atheist be saved?? Absolutely...if he is converted before he dies..converted: to revert (literally, figuratively or morally):--come (go) again, convert,(re-)turn (about, again).

You calling Gospel truth in Scripture "Protestant lies" paints a very clear picture of your spiritual status...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#549236 Jul 14, 2014
And then if you expand your ability to reason and consider all of the religious literature in all of the religions ... you will stop being so arrogant as to believe that your religion owns the one and only universal truth.

Ridiculous human behavior.

EVERY RELIGION HAD SAVIOR-MYTHS.

Do you GET it???

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#549237 Jul 14, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Speaking of gloating ... how do you plan to pass the time in Protestantized heaven?
Praising god and Jesus could become quite a bore after a few thousand times a day every day for eternity ... don'tcha think???
:)
GODS HOME, not any denomination..we nor the the REV, NOR THE BAPTISTS, OR any human created it ..it belongs,to Him

Imagine the Garden of Eden only better ...

I pray to see Jesus.praise yes and love Him as He loves us.
Imagine the conversations,with Jesus, Mary, Joseph ,Abraham

.I hope it's,a,place we can talk to anyone in history, has a great library of knowledge , but I have no idea what is there for sure....

We are,promised no tears in heaven and God's,presence ..whatever He,prepares for us,will be good .

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#549238 Jul 14, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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You are a glutton for shiny things ... such as streets of gold in heaven.
You vote that Protestant you will be traveling those streets of gold, while you also vote that others will spend eternity in hell.
You are quite the politician.
Oh June ..twist twist twist the words...

No I don't want to see anyone not go to heaven..that's,your delusion. That you keep repeating over and over.NO ONE BUT YOU SAYS THAT

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#549239 Jul 14, 2014
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I agree RoSesz. You hit the main point, it's not about what the Vatican said here and there or our church membership, it's about opening our hearts to Jesus.
Amen midst all- OUR arguing , We were created first and foremost to LOVE GOD.

FIRST COMMANDMENT ..love God with thy whole everything...why else would He want to share eternity with such creatures as we are, if not for LOVE :)
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#549240 Jul 14, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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If you have no fear of going to hell ... then you are arrogant in the certainty that you are absolutely SAVED.
There IS no middle road in the Christian religion.
I never in my whole life believed in the existence of any of the hells in religion ... so I couldn't possibly have fear concerning that ridiculous idiocy.
I'm arrogant because I don't fear hell? You're a nut case.
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#549241 Jul 14, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I agree that the Catholics waited until long after Jesus supposedly converted to Catholicism and rose to Catholic "heaven" before they started writing the tales that would ultimately become known as the new testament.
The author of Mother goose also waited until she died to write that story.
And do really think Santa Claus would be rewarding spoiled-rotten rug rats with presents??? That story was also compiled after Santa became invisible.
:)
LMAO. Catholics wrote the New Testament? You're losing it quickly.

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