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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 667738 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#547670 Jul 5, 2014
The fact that in all ancient religions there were no female saviors in the written literature, indicates that the men did all the writing and tried to claim that male gods ruled the skies and their SONS would come to save or reject souls to one destination or another.

There were goddesses involved here and there in the literature ... but they were "simply" support for the male warrior-gods.

Not one savior was female.

Religion STINKS!!!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#547671 Jul 5, 2014
Michael wrote:
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.......I have always stated learn about all religions but use an open mind. Its obvious that ancient sand dune dwellers from 20 centuries ago made up these stories but had no idea how big they would become.
......There are many, many more fiction stories than non fiction.
ReIgious leaders of organized religions from centuries ago were experts at deceit.........and today its carried on.
......something is terribly wrong!
Science in ancient times was non-existent ... but today religion makes no sense whatsoever.

The very idea that a god could impregnate a woman on earth is laughable ... but to many humans stuck in the mental bondage of religion ... that word salvation blocks their ability to use any sense of reason.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#547672 Jul 5, 2014
Ancient theologians claimed that their personalized gods impregnated women in their personalized religions and out of the wombs of the women involved ... that were joyously impregnated ... out popped the savior-SONS.

Ridiculous nonsense!
hess

Columbus, OH

#547673 Jul 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I agree that had he been a real person, he would have been an observant Jew to Judaism until the moment of his death.
But then that would mean that unless all humans flocked to monotheistic Judaism as the one and only universal truth ... Jesus would have rejected them to Gehenna ... the Jewish equivalent of Christian hell.
Religion is all personalized bunkology.
Each theologian in each religion had HIS own personalized savior on which he counted to come and save HIM.
No soup for you.
Chess

Columbus, OH

#547674 Jul 5, 2014
Michael wrote:
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.......I have always stated learn about all religions but use an open mind. Its obvious that ancient sand dune dwellers from 20 centuries ago made up these stories but had no idea how big they would become.
......There are many, many more fiction stories than non fiction.
ReIgious leaders of organized religions from centuries ago were experts at deceit.........and today its carried on.
......something is terribly wrong!
Soup?
Michael

Canada

#547675 Jul 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
Ancient theologians claimed that their personalized gods impregnated women in their personalized religions and out of the wombs of the women involved ... that were joyously impregnated ... out popped the savior-SONS.
Ridiculous nonsense!
.....What you are saying is, the writers of the birth of Jesus story copied basically the same story of other mythical gods that came centuries before?

........and Christians believe the miraculous birth of Jesus, was Unique to christianity ..........but they are wrong?

Unbelievable!
Michael

Canada

#547676 Jul 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I agree that had he been a real person, he would have been an observant Jew to Judaism until the moment of his death.
But then that would mean that unless all humans flocked to monotheistic Judaism as the one and only universal truth ... Jesus would have rejected them to Gehenna ... the Jewish equivalent of Christian hell.
Religion is all personalized bunkology.
Each theologian in each religion had HIS own personalized savior on which he counted to come and save HIM.
......A man named yeshua did not start Christianity. Christianity created the story about yeshua.

......same way socialism started. A movement of people created socialism, then later a leader was chosen to head the movement.

..
Michael

Canada

#547677 Jul 5, 2014
Chess wrote:
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Soup?
....Campbell's vegetable please.

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#547678 Jul 5, 2014
Michael wrote:
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....Campbell's vegetable please.
Done.

Although you could have gone for Chess' Tomato Basil:

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Just sayin'.

Since: Jun 10

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#547679 Jul 5, 2014
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>you are a witch, trying to use these scare tactics against her, leave her alone.
you call her sister and then use those types of words towards her.
I dont know where you think that YOU, a woman, can speak about preaching. You aren't qualified even to be a catholic.
But I will answer your question and it is generic, not specifically to her.
If a person backslides and dies in that sinful state, they will not make it to heaven,
and of course a person knows they are lost, just as you know that you are ,which is why you insist that OSAS is a Biblical correct doctrine, which of course it isn't but it gives you the comfort to lead a life unpleasing to those around you and to God.
the ONLY Fruitful Preaching, as you say ,is that Jesus Christ is Lord and we Need to be Saved, and again, you ought to be ashamed of yourself for making this personal with LTM.
If I was her and I had your address, you would be struck off of my Christmas Card list come December, You are so evil, and what is pathetic is that you are told time and time again that you need to put a lid on your mouth(If you could find one that big) and you think that you are doing God's Work, and all you do is hinder it. Of all that claim to be Christian, you and oxbore fall the furthest from the tree, and both have the rottenest fruit of any on this forum
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

God promised "thou shalt be saved" "shall be saved"...Christians know God will fulfill His promised Salvation...non Christians deny the Truth in God's Word....they are non believers...
Liam

Saint Paul, MN

#547680 Jul 5, 2014
Chess Jurist wrote:
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There is no proof.
But there is much evidence contra.
For example, the two earliest copies of John date to the end of the 2nd century and are anonymous.
Also, since they both lack the Pericope Adulterae, they are evidence of tampering with the received text.
Jesus Christ didn't come here to start a book. He came and established a Church. Paul spent three yrs establishing the Church in Ephesus. He left ordained Bishops in charge when he left. Timothy, his disciple, rose the ranks and became the head there.... a couple letters from Paul to Timothy made it into the Bible. My point is: the Universal Church in Ephesus came before the Bible. It had to..... the letters to Timothy weren't written yet. And the only purpose of the letters were to address the already established Church.
The examples are many. The Catholic Church in Antioch was established by Peter. He left, and the validly ordained Bishop Ignatius took over. This was done before the "Bible".

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#547681 Jul 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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You stated that Jesus was neither Catholic nor Protestant. So was he a Gnostic Christian according to your universal truth theology ... or was he baptized into a no-name religion after being a Jewish rabbi.
Your sermons are based on the mount of your stupidity.
This is saying that Christ was not a Catholic nor was He a Protestant...neither of which were on the scene at that time....there is nothing in those words that say Christ had no religion...

Christ was a Jew...
Judaism:
1. The monotheistic religion of the Jews, tracing its origins to Abraham and having its spiritual and ethical principles embodied chiefly in the Hebrew Scriptures and the Talmud.
2. Conformity to the traditional ceremonies and rites of the Jewish religion.
3. The cultural, religious, and social practices and beliefs of the Jews.
4. The Jews considered as a people or community.

There is no cure for it...you were born in that condition....so say your words...

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#547682 Jul 5, 2014
LTM wrote:
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hi, "ROSESZ" I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH MYSELF AT FIRST. I AM STILL TRYING TO GET USE TO COOKING FOR 2 PEOPLE ITS HARD.
I HAD AT LEAST 8 PEOPLE AT MY TABLE EVERYNIGHT SOMETIMES 12, AT TIMES 17.
I AM NOT KIDDING.
SO I FIND IT A LITTLE QUIET HERE , I AM TOTALLY BORED. LOL
MY SON AND DAUGHTER, WERE VERY GOOD AT HELPING ME COOK AND EVERYONE HELPED CLEAN UP.
NOW ITS JUST ME AND MY HUSBAND AND 2 CATS, MAYBE 3.
SOME MAN WHO LIVED UP THE HILL PASSED AWAY, HIS CAT WAS LET LOOSE.
I HAVE BEEN GIVING IT FOOD AND WATER, HE IS JUST STARTING TO LET ME PET HIM. HE WENT FROM A HOUSE CAT TO A STREET CAT, SO HE IS SHY OF STRANGERS.
I AM A TOTAL ANIMAL LOVER, THIS POOR FURRY BABY NEEDS A BATH BADLY.
Yeah, our new goal is,clearing things,out , thirty years,with , little,by little...errand days, saves gas do each part of town a,different day ....etc.

Lots,of actually good,stuff on tv...outside,is,way too hot to do much right now..but surprisingly , the routine is,nice..just a new,phase,of life and,find blessings,when they come.. visiting kids,is,our biggie....and,wish we could,more often..

I envy those,who see grandkids,every day, but not sure I could keep up ..lol..a,few,hours with those whirling dervishes,, I have great respect for my daughter!!!!
Liam

Saint Paul, MN

#547683 Jul 5, 2014
The Christian Bible only developed because of the tradition of reading Scripture before the Eucharistic meal. The Apostles read from the "OT" before the breaking of the bread. ie the Mass. The next generation of Christians continued the same tradition, only now, the Church began approving some writings available from the Apostles , as well as epistles from Barnabas, Clement and Ignatius.
It wasn't until the council of Rome in the 4th century, that the Catholic Church decided to form one collection of Scripture for the Mass.
For the Mass. Not for individual Bible study groups. The Bible is not a secret treasure map like these current fundies seem to believe.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#547684 Jul 5, 2014
hojo wrote:
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Of course you are!!......Just another Bible Believing "contradicting and inconsistent" self-interpreting fundamentalist that claims the TRUTH of the Word of God just like 42,200 other self appointed Protestant preachers who ALSO claim that same TRUTH of the Bible.....EVERY ONE of your self interpreting (or better yet mis-interpreting (hodge-podge) of denominations are MAN MADE beginning with Luther, then Zwingili, Calvin, Hus, Cranmer, Knox, Wesley and on and on and on (now) into the 21st century on this forum with Confrinting,Oxbow, Marge,etc.etc.etc. and now YOU Guest.......We are ALL anxiously awaiting as to which one of your inconsistent denominations is the "actual Truth"!!...On this forum it seems to be the one that "yells" the loudest and calls the other "belittling names....God "never was nor ever will be" the author of your bible only Protestant contradicting confusion and chaos!.....
Christ built not a denomination....your is the largest one....

Contents: Largest denominations in the world
2.1 Catholicism - 1.2 billion
2.2 Protestantism - 800 million

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#547685 Jul 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I believe that the word Jesus stemmed from the Greek word Ihcuc and was simply created to be the main character in a Catholic scheme.
I learned that there were saviors in every religion created by the same type of figmented schemes.
The only reason you put faith in the mythical Jesus is because without THAT savior myth, you wouldn't be able to PREACH that YOU know the one and only universal PROTESTANT truth, and that YOU will be saved for eternal bliss, while others spend eternity in Protestant hell ... you arrogant FOOL!!!
I will respond to what you have to say about: The truth,for some, cannot be accepted....You simply cannot say "I am sorry, I was mistaken, you are right, Jesus does not take anyone anywhere."

All else is ignored....

Since: Jun 10

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#547686 Jul 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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What if the soul of the baby is not of a born-again Christian? Does it automatically know that it has to go straight to hell???
Your theology is as wacky as the theology of all the other religious "philosophers."
And don't forget that the baby did not CHOOSE to be of any religion. That was a curse from the baby's parents put upon the baby.
Idiocy.
A baby is without sin....Because a baby cannot sin....should he die in that condition...to Heaven he goes...

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#547687 Jul 5, 2014
Liam wrote:
The Christian Bible only developed because of the tradition of reading Scripture before the Eucharistic meal. The Apostles read from the "OT" before the breaking of the bread. ie the Mass. The next generation of Christians continued the same tradition, only now, the Church began approving some writings available from the Apostles , as well as epistles from Barnabas, Clement and Ignatius.
It wasn't until the council of Rome in the 4th century, that the Catholic Church decided to form one collection of Scripture for the Mass.
For the Mass. Not for individual Bible study groups. The Bible is not a secret treasure map like these current fundies seem to believe.
In the Roman Catholic mass, the Eucharist or “host”(the round wafer) is a symbol of the sun. It is normally placed during ceremonial masses on a monstrance with a crescent moon, symbolizing the plunging of the sun into the womb of the goddess. Some monstrances bear the letters “SFS,” which represents 666, as S was the sixth letter in the ancient Greek alphabet and F is the sixth letter in our alphabet.

The round disc in the crescent moon was a symbol of ancient Babylon, and is found in all the ancient religions. In Catholic cathedrals, these symbols are very prominent, often depicting a round form of mother and child within the crescent moon.

The rebirth of the sun god was celebrated by the eating of round bread in Babylonian times, and was common in Mithraism and Osiris worship. Historian Alexander Hislop says this:

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#547688 Jul 5, 2014
Michael wrote:
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.....What you are saying is, the writers of the birth of Jesus story copied basically the same story of other mythical gods that came centuries before?
........and Christians believe the miraculous birth of Jesus, was Unique to christianity ..........but they are wrong?
Unbelievable!
The Catholics didn't create their own image of a god, as did the monotheistic Jews.

That left the Catholics with no other option than to make up a flamboyant story that the one God in the sky turned his back on the Jews as being vile and corrupt ... so that was their story and they are sticking to it.

The fact that in their personalized mythology they created Jesus to be the son of a Jewish god that first practiced Judaism and became a Jewish rabbi before choosing to become a Catholic, is no mystery to me.

They wanted others to believe that Jesus finally saw that Judaism was vile and corrupt and that is WHY Jesus wanted to become a Catholic ... pure and holy and born-again in Catholicized spirit.

If only the golden tongued Catholic John Chrysostom hadn't stretched the theology to the point of breaking ... he wouldn't have written that Jesus wanted the Jews SLAYED.

After all ... Jesus was supposed to come to earth to teach the meaning of the word LOVE ... not the meaning of the words hate, torture and murder.

Religion is all based on lies.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#547689 Jul 5, 2014
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
......A man named yeshua did not start Christianity. Christianity created the story about yeshua.
......same way socialism started. A movement of people created socialism, then later a leader was chosen to head the movement.
..
Ihcuc was Catholicized into the word Jesus ... according to the Catholics ... and since the word Jesus means savior ... I presume that the word Ihcuc in Greek ALSO means savior.

And the word Christ ALSO means savior.

Masters of CON.

Ihcuc ... savior
Jesus ... savior
Christ ... savior

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