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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Larry Sinclair

Kenosha, WI

#543362 Jun 10, 2014
Pad wrote:
Oh June you forgot to say "tongue in cheek" on your last post about the book writing!
BATH-HOUSE BARRY put his tongue between the cheeks at Man's Country in Chicago.
A few days ago the BBC reported 800 bodies of babies & children were found in a nun's septic tank. 33 additional mass-graves have been found on Catholic premises in Spain and Canada for a total body count so far of 358,000 babies and children mostly from homes for unwed-mothers. This latest was discovered as a result of investigations from the International Court of Justice criminal-case against Pope Francis who allegedly raped at least two children, ate at least some of a sacrificed newborn and oversaw child-trafficking in Argentina and Canada.
Queen Elizabeth is also implicated.
WHERE WILL YOU SPEND ETERNITY?
In Heaven with the virgin-born Son of God Jesus the Christ?
OR
In the lake of fire with the Kenyan-born son of a porn-star Obama the Antichrist?
Oh and BTW Poop Francis is the False Prophet.
www.shadowreign.com
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#543363 Jun 10, 2014
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Would you like an explanation of what God means when He said He created evil? Well I will share it anyway June,I know you migh vegetarian right? Well those poor helpless beautiful vegetables and so on you pluck from the vinesespecially are quite unique as to how they gather unto themselves food,from both the animal kingdom and Plant kingdom.Much of which seems quite barbaric.Than again what would we eat?
Here is another point of why God supposedly created EVIL. He created the Angels,and in spite of your lack of belief June,the Angels are believed by most of this planet,you are sorely outnumbered.But than again who cares?
The Angels were created to be Messengers of God,but to who were they going to be Messengers?That is a good question,I cannot answer that one,frankly because I was not there when He created the Angels.(Oh I know there are no angels,according to June) make sure you put that in your book. Nevertheless, the angels have other profound occupations and doings in the realms of Glory,so I will not limit them to just being Messengers.
Lucifer a Cherub was one of the most fantastic Angels ever to be created by God,Powerful,Handsome,and full of talent,as he lead the choirs in full and wonderful worship before the God of the heavens. In that where Lucifer decided he was more than capable of being self-sufficient and a born leader,Lucifer declared in 5 points his own glory,and his DESIRE to be above the glory of his Creator. Since all angels have the Free Will, you have June, they can c h o o s e their own destiny.
Lucifer lead an insurrection in heaven,WHY? because He was able to convince other angels that the Creator spent Himself in all creation,and that the Creator emanates into all He created thereby diminishing His being(that is becoming lesser and lesser all powerful).
So to get to the issue of why God created EVIL? Lucifer in his rebellion with other angels fell to an e v i l state against their Creator.God takes full responsibility for that evil as He knows He created the very myriad of angels that rebelled against Him,and evil was borne in the hearts of those angels. God created the Angels who would never forsake His love,and those who did
forsake Him.Mind you(of course you do not believe anything) the very fact that God created the angels who rebelled,gives rise to the reality that evil is part of that creation!
Pad says...1)...I know you are a vegetarian right? Well those poor helpless beautiful vegetables and so on you pluck from the vines grown in the earth,become your meal for an evening.One could say you are terrible for eating the helpless living plants that are at your mercy.But, God did say EAT,for it is good!
Michael says..........1)..Com' On! What a ridiculous comparison of the point she was making.
Pad says 2).....2) Angels are believed by most of our planet. So you are outnumbered June.
Michael says....2) So according to you the majority that everyone believes in, is true because majority knows right.
Silly silly silly!
I thought you were really smarter than to make goofy statements like those.
Gods r Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#543364 Jun 10, 2014
FACT: No one wants to consider the absurdities and contradictions, so religious debate confines itself to the "shadows" - to the nebulous.

For example, either devoted monks and others who took Jesus at his word and did what Jesus taught were all foolishly wrong -- or you are.

Only in a delusion can opposite sides of a question BOTH be correct.

Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#543365 Jun 10, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
If the creator NEEDED suffering to prove any point whatsoever ... he has no right to judge his creation as being imperfect ... because HE is the first cause of the imperfection.
Do you GET that point???
Religion is based on stupidity.
Did you read Pads goofy statement about his description of evil,....... and that there are angels because the majority of people say there are......so it must be true.(ROTFLOL!!)

what is that word you use?? BUNKOLOGY!

UNBELIEVABLE!
Gods r Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#543366 Jun 10, 2014
Larry Sinclair wrote:
<quoted text>BATH-HOUSE BARRY put his tongue between the cheeks at Man's Country in Chicago.
A few days ago the BBC reported 800 bodies of babies & children were found in a nun's septic tank. 33 additional mass-graves have been found on Catholic premises in Spain and Canada for a total body count so far of 358,000 babies and children mostly from homes for unwed-mothers. This latest was discovered as a result of investigations from the International Court of Justice criminal-case against Pope Francis who allegedly raped at least two children, ate at least some of a sacrificed newborn and oversaw child-trafficking in Argentina and Canada.
Queen Elizabeth is also implicated.
WHERE WILL YOU SPEND ETERNITY?
In Heaven with the virgin-born Son of God Jesus the Christ?
OR
In the lake of fire with the Kenyan-born son of a porn-star Obama the Antichrist?
Oh and BTW Poop Francis is the False Prophet.
www.shadowreign.com
This is not insane thinking.

This is religious "thinking."

ramen
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#543367 Jun 10, 2014
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>Overshaowing DOES NOT mean that she got pregnant by that experience.
so let me ask you ask a question.
could you have been able to stayed awake while God was doing this to you?
could Adam have stayed awake while God was surgically removing a rib from his body.
if you weren't such a flake, you could understand very easily what occurs in the Word of God.
people like you run hither and thither trying to comprehend His Word, while that same Word says it is so Simple to find and walk on that road, that even a blind man can find it and Walk on it. where then, does that leave a person like you? a man who claims to be a catholic one day, next week, he is a protestant(Yet Never Saved by the Blood), and then down the road, he is an atheist.
and for those very reasons, it is easy to call YOU a flake. A person like you cant escape your past, UNLESS you become Born Again by His Blood, and Thanks be unto God, even you can be Saved, and then we would accept you into His Kingdom with no qualms whatsoever.
Even Judas could have been Saved if he had Repented to God, not to the Sanhedrin, they like your catholic church, can not save anyone. so there is hope for you, unless, like Judas, in your sudden change of moods, take your own life.
"...thou shalt conceive in thy womb..."

This eliminates the possibility that God placed an already-conceived-embryo in her womb.

I think you may possibly be a pseudo-Monophysite, and considering your obnoxious and degrading behavior here, you are most likely not a Christian.

Gods r Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#543368 Jun 10, 2014
StarC wrote:
<quoted text>
FYI there are no "goddess" there is only One God!
Where is your peace? Stop the hate now for real peace in God alone.
Man-made religions are fake.... Why don't you start a new one with a cat god... LOL
^--^ meow, meow, meow.! Lets see where that will get you.:D.
Why not? The RCC started a new goddess.

e.g. in what way is Mary (as portrayed today) any different than a goddess of lure?

Sinless, unlike any other human else except Jesus. Check

Went bodily to heaven, like Jesus. Check

Devotion to Mary can save souls. Check

The old Egyptian temples to Isis became temple to Mary. Check.

Don't laugh too hard, unless ye be willing to laugh at oneself.

peace and love and devotion to Mary's sacred (of god) heart.

ramen

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#543369 Jun 10, 2014
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't understand the reason for the questions. Are you saying that would change the truth in the Scripture I posted????
Oxbow

Peace

I asked about the word "overshadow", to show that it is selfdom used, or not at all, and we are left with a word from the past, which we also interpret out of the deep past.

Although truth of the scripture remains, the perception about it changes. And this is the reason we study scriptures for they in a way are like hieroglyphics to someone who doesn't know what they are reading.

Consider another word like cool....It has various meanings and nuances. For older folks they may think of "Cool Hand Luke", or the hippy and post-hippy use the word cool. The word in a very short time has deviated from its traditional meaning.

Peace

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#543370 Jun 10, 2014
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
"...thou shalt conceive in thy womb..."
This eliminates the possibility that God placed an already-conceived-embryo in her womb.
I think you may possibly be a pseudo-Monophysite, and considering your obnoxious and degrading behavior here, you are most likely not a Christian.
I have just now witnessed a miracle!!!!! Anthony nailed atemcowboy, the man whom claims to have answered God's call, to the barn door with absolute truth from the Bible!!!!

Conceive: To become pregnant with (offspring).

Womb: the place in which anything is formed or produced.

Notice...formed or produced.... it does not say "where something is planted in or attached to"....and we all know that in the case of Mary this thing being "formed" or produced" was Jesus Christ the Son of God Almighty...

Correction...we all know that, except atemcowboy the man called of God, in the case etc etc....

Thank you Anthony....

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#543371 Jun 10, 2014
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe this will help..
Lu 1:35 shall overshadow <episkiazo>
Ac 5:15 overshadow <episkiazo>
Mt 17:5 overshadowed <episkiazo>
Mr 9:7 overshadowed <episkiazo>
Lu 9:34 overshadowed <episkiazo>
Oxbow

Luke 1:35 uses episkiasei
Acts 5:5 uses skia episkiasei
Mt 17:5 uses epeskiasen
Mk 9:7 uses episkiazousa
Luke 9:34 uses epeskiazen

The grammar we use sometimes is not directly applicable such as putting an "s" onto a noun and making it plural, or an "ed" on the end of a verb to make it past tense, RELATIVE to the Greek, or Hebrew.

There are nuances and drift in meanings of words. And is especially noted within context of what is written.

We take the Bible written in English, which was written originally over a very long period of time, and apply specific words..., this was previously done in Latin, and Greek, and Hebrew.

English is not a computer language, nor Latin, etc. But we can only get a relative degree of understanding of what was first written by the writer, and then we must ask, seek, and knock persistently to know the truth.
StarC

Los Angeles, CA

#543372 Jun 10, 2014
Gods r Delusions x Mine wrote:
<quoted text>
Why not? The RCC started a new goddess.
e.g. in what way is Mary (as portrayed today) any different than a goddess of lure?
Sinless, unlike any other human else except Jesus. Check
Went bodily to heaven, like Jesus. Check
Devotion to Mary can save souls. Check
The old Egyptian temples to Isis became temple to Mary. Check.
Don't laugh too hard, unless ye be willing to laugh at oneself.
peace and love and devotion to Mary's sacred (of god) heart.
ramen
Catholic 101

Blessed Mother Mary is not a goddess!

Blessed Mother Mary can lead you to Jesus, its only Jesus that saves!

Jesus’ ascended, Blessed Mother was assumed into heaven as we will be.

Sinless b/c God saved her, HE knew her before she was born. Specially selected to be the Mother of Jesus on earth!

Our Churches are named after Saint b/c it’s the Saints that gather followers for Christ.

“Catholics DO NOT worship Mary, the Mother of Christ – as though she were a deity. Of all the misconceptions about Catholic belief and practice, this one is the most absurd. Catholics are just as aware as Protestants that Mary was a human creature, and therefore not entitled to the honors which are reserved to God alone.”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#543374 Jun 10, 2014
Phrasal Verbs:
bear down
1. To advance in a threatening manner: The ship bore down on our canoe.
2. To apply maximum effort and concentration: If you really bear down, you will finish the task.
bear out
To prove right or justified; confirm: The test results bear out our claims.
bear up
To withstand stress, difficulty, or attrition: The patient bore up well during the long illness.
Idioms:
bear down on
To effect in a harmful or adverse way: Financial pressures are bearing down on them.
bear fruit
To come to a satisfactory conclusion or to fruition.
bear in mind
To hold in one's mind; rem
Any of various usually omnivorous mammals of the family Ursidae that have a shaggy coat

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#543375 Jun 10, 2014
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Oxbow
Luke 1:35 uses episkiasei
Acts 5:5 uses skia episkiasei
Mt 17:5 uses epeskiasen
Mk 9:7 uses episkiazousa
Luke 9:34 uses epeskiazen
The grammar we use sometimes is not directly applicable such as putting an "s" onto a noun and making it plural, or an "ed" on the end of a verb to make it past tense, RELATIVE to the Greek, or Hebrew.
There are nuances and drift in meanings of words. And is especially noted within context of what is written.
We take the Bible written in English, which was written originally over a very long period of time, and apply specific words..., this was previously done in Latin, and Greek, and Hebrew.
English is not a computer language, nor Latin, etc. But we can only get a relative degree of understanding of what was first written by the writer, and then we must ask, seek, and knock persistently to know the truth.
The subject was/is the number of times in the NT the Koine Greek word for "overshadow" was used. Just trying to be helpful.....it was used more than one time....
atemcowboy

Waverly, OH

#543376 Jun 10, 2014
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
"...thou shalt conceive in thy womb..."
This eliminates the possibility that God placed an already-conceived-embryo in her womb.
I think you may possibly be a pseudo-Monophysite, and considering your obnoxious and degrading behavior here, you are most likely not a Christian.
I am sorry, but it doe NOT mean that God wouldn't have placed an embryo in her womb, which of course He did..

so lets consider my behavior as compared to that of YOU>

I don't cuss people out and call them "obnoxious" names like you do constantly.

I do admit that I call Robert a flake which of course he is, and if it isn't a catholic week for him, you would too.

If God fertilizes an egg from her ovary, then you catholics have a problem, Jesus then inherits DNA from Mary, while God the Father and God the Holy Ghost have no DNA.

my "obnoxious" behavior coming from catholics is caused by ONE thing and that is that I know and claim that your church is evil and satanic driven. and you cant stand that and I don't care.
atemcowboy

Waverly, OH

#543377 Jun 10, 2014
doing genetic testing the results are that ONE chromosome comes from the father and the other from the mother.

when fertilization occurs,one cell is produced which has both partners in each of its pairs, one from the mother and one from the father. This means that both parents contribute the same amount of nucleic DNA.

that is the biological experience in the New Birth and therefore if an egg from mary is used(but it isn't), Jesus inherits DNA from mary, that is Nature and isn't changed.

I posted several days ago but didn't give oxbore enough of a hint that He could go to his concordance, but I will reveal some fact.
First Jesus was not a Giant , at least the Bible doesn't reveal that fact.

so what does that mean?

so lets look at what happened when the "sons of god" came down to earth and had sex with human women, GIANTS WERE PRODUCED, therefore chances are, that IF God has sex with mary, Jesus would have been born a giant, and to take this stupid theory(God having sex) mary would no longer have been a virgin.

if a person would use th word conceive and look at some of the synonyms, they could take that even closer to what actually happened, and I am not going back to a week or two to show everyone what that word also means.

If YOU CANT KEEP UP, TAKE NOTES.
Regina

Toms River, NJ

#543378 Jun 10, 2014
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I am sorry, but it doe NOT mean that God wouldn't have placed an embryo in her womb, which of course He did..
so lets consider my behavior as compared to that of YOU>
I don't cuss people out and call them "obnoxious" names like you do constantly.
I do admit that I call Robert a flake which of course he is, and if it isn't a catholic week for him, you would too.
If God fertilizes an egg from her ovary, then you catholics have a problem, Jesus then inherits DNA from Mary, while God the Father and God the Holy Ghost have no DNA.
my "obnoxious" behavior coming from catholics is caused by ONE thing and that is that I know and claim that your church is evil and satanic driven. and you cant stand that and I don't care.
"If God fertilizes an egg from her ovary, then you catholics have a problem, Jesus then inherits DNA from Mary, while God the Father and God the Holy Ghost have no DNA."

Yes, that's correct, go to the head of the class. All of Jesus' humanity comes from His mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary.

Hypostatic Union

A theological term used with reference to the Incarnation to express the revealed truth that in Christ one person subsists in two natures, the Divine and the human. Hypostasis means, literally, that which lies beneath as basis or foundation. Hence it came to be used by the Greek philosophers to denote reality as distinguished from appearances (Aristotle, "Mund.", IV, 21)....definitively established by the Council of Chalcedon (451), which declared that in Christ the two natures, each retaining its own properties, are united in one subsistence and one person (eis en prosopon kai mian hypostasin)(Denzinger, ed. Bannwart, 148). They are not joined in a moral or accidental union (Nestorius), nor commingled (Eutyches), and nevertheless they are substantially united. For further explanation and bibliography see: INCARNATION; JESUS CHRIST; MONOPHYSITISM; NATURE; PERSON.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07610b.htm
atemcowboy

Waverly, OH

#543379 Jun 10, 2014
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
The subject was/is the number of times in the NT the Koine Greek word for "overshadow" was used. Just trying to be helpful.....it was used more than one time....
It STILL DOESNT MEAN THAT THIS IS A WORD THAT MEANS SHE GOT PREGNANT.

it is something that would be comparable with the usage of Chloroform to put her asleep and then the actual time of conceiving would begin.

But a person like you and Robert with no medical background would never be able to comprehend something as simple as this.

JUST AS THE CATHOLICS ON HERE MUST INSIST THAT MARYS EGG WAS USED. IT PROVES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN LIED TO ALL OF THIS TIME
atemcowboy

Waverly, OH

#543380 Jun 10, 2014
Regina wrote:
<quoted text>
"If God fertilizes an egg from her ovary, then you catholics have a problem, Jesus then inherits DNA from Mary, while God the Father and God the Holy Ghost have no DNA."
Yes, that's correct, go to the head of the class. All of Jesus' humanity comes from His mother, Mary.
yes, you are correct, but it stems from the fact that the embryo attaches it self to her womb, and the other factors in the giving of life begins.

that is how we get the Part of FULLY HUMAN/ FULLY GOD.

Jesus inherited His Humanity to the Fact that He grew in Her Womb, not because her egg was used.

How many times must you people be showed about the DNA factor?

as many times has your little children have been abused?
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#543381 Jun 10, 2014
StarC wrote:
<quoted text>
Catholic 101
Blessed Mother Mary is not a goddess!
Blessed Mother Mary can lead you to Jesus, its only Jesus that saves!
Jesus’ ascended, Blessed Mother was assumed into heaven as we will be.
Sinless b/c God saved her, HE knew her before she was born. Specially selected to be the Mother of Jesus on earth!
Our Churches are named after Saint b/c it’s the Saints that gather followers for Christ.
“Catholics DO NOT worship Mary, the Mother of Christ – as though she were a deity. Of all the misconceptions about Catholic belief and practice, this one is the most absurd. Catholics are just as aware as Protestants that Mary was a human creature, and therefore not entitled to the honors which are reserved to God alone.”
....Why pray with Mary when you can pray directly to Jesus??

Twinkle Star...

....A few years ago a poll was taken in Italy asking who do you pray to when in crisis. Jesus was #6 on the list who catholics in Italy prayed to first....... 6th!!!

......Why pray with/to Mary and other saints when you can pray directly to Jesus to get the same result?....(lol)

.....that's like me asking June bug to send a post to you from me. Silly.

Unbelievable!
Regina

Toms River, NJ

#543382 Jun 10, 2014
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>yes, you are correct, but it stems from the fact that the embryo attaches it self to her womb, and the other factors in the giving of life begins.
that is how we get the Part of FULLY HUMAN/ FULLY GOD.
Jesus inherited His Humanity to the Fact that He grew in Her Womb, not because her egg was used.
How many times must you people be showed about the DNA factor?
as many times has your little children have been abused?
You quoted me incorrectly.
And that says it all, nothing further needs to be said. All of your heretical garbage regarding the Incarnation stems from your desire to diminish and demean the Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God.
If you think for one minute that what you're doing pleases her Son, you're sadly mistaken.
I feel sorry for you.

The egg of the Blessed Virgin Mary was fertilized. Jesus Christ received His humanity from His Blessed Virgin Mother. Sorry, presto, but that's a basic tenet of the Christian faith. All your insults aren't going to make it go away.

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